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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd]
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i know god exists because he healed my wife when she was dying and was in the hospital. i believe he is real and is - always was- always will be. for those that do not believe i do not hate you, atheists are not monsters or bad people- most of them i know are realy kind and genarouse folks that would help anyone for nothing in return i feel sorrow for them and hope one day they will see it`s not a rite or wrong thing, its a spiritual thing. i think i would feel very alone if i believed their was realy no god. i dont think i am living rite and dont know why god helps me but he does, thank god.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Compaq12986]
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Compaq12986 said:
For the big bang theory to of happened there would of had to of been something. Now something had to create that something to create the big bang. Why is it that there has been the same reports from people who have died and or had near death experiences all have described the same thing? Past that what would account for ghosts in every culture since the begining of man?


To answer in order:

1. Nothing needs to have created the big bang if it's cyclical. If there is matter that blows out, it's postulated that the expansion will slow, gravity will kick in, and everything will mash back together. The mashing of EVERYTHING back together would have such extreme density and force that it could explode again, reforming the universe as we know it. There was no time when it wasn't, no need for a creator.

2. Just because when people die their bodies undergo the same reaction, it doesn't mean their's a tangible afterlife. Notice, too, that these are NEAR death experiences. Every person, while their body did stop functioning, is now alive. Death is permanent.

3. Man is gullible and fallible. I imagine that werewolves, the loch ness monster, and reptilians also exist. Also, some of us like to believe in things that give us the ability to put hope in life after death out of fear.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Country1] * 4
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Country1 said:
But....but then who created them?


It's turtle's all the way down.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: jacobensis] * 2
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jacobensis said:
i know god exists because he healed my wife when she was dying and was in the hospital. i believe he is real and is - always was- always will be. for those that do not believe i do not hate you, atheists are not monsters or bad people- most of them i know are realy kind and genarouse folks that would help anyone for nothing in return i feel sorrow for them and hope one day they will see it`s not a rite or wrong thing, its a spiritual thing. i think i would feel very alone if i believed their was realy no god. i dont think i am living rite and dont know why god helps me but he does, thank god.


Helll yea, god healed your dying wife then let all them African's die of starvation, totally plausible
lol


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd] * 2
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According to this website: http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/

Quote:
The Proof that God exists is that without Him you couldn't prove anything.



I give up...


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd]
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THE LORD sayeth unto ye: fix me a sammich!


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: WScott]
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WScott said:
Kada said:
Just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean it's magical.


However does something come to be unmagical if the absolute origins of reality are ever-present mystery? :hmm:


No one knows. Were either to primitive or not meant to know.

Be good and play nice.


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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: DrMambo] * 5
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From the other thread which is the same:

I dismiss all religion completely, especially atheism. All religion or anti-religion is based on mans view of the world. Feeding our ego's more then anything. Pointless.

In the words of Carl Sagan, "Atheists sure know a lot more then I do"

Belief that you know ANYTHING is insanity. The end.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd]
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How do you discredit all the scientific evidence that ghosts and the paranormal do exist?


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: pfxtc]
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I guess i could be wrong and there is a god. A group of chinese people wearing robes seen him in a cloud formation. He must be real

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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Compaq12986]
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Compaq12986 said:
Everything had to of came from some where. Back when there wasn't even a molecule, atom, blah, blah, blah something had to start it all. If there was nothing to start time and space something had to be around to create the first thing ever in existence. Suck on that athiests. Any response is wrong until you can prove that I'm wrong. Lol atheists are now proven to be on the same intelligence level of george bush and play dough.god bless you all!


This motherfucker!  :lolz0rz:

We need a  :trollslayer:


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Compaq12986]
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Compaq12986 said:
How do you discredit all the scientific evidence that ghosts and the paranormal do exist?


There is 0 scientific evidence of ghosts. There are dip shits with cameras on tv tho.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
jacobensis said:
i know god exists because he healed my wife when she was dying and was in the hospital. i believe he is real and is - always was- always will be. for those that do not believe i do not hate you, atheists are not monsters or bad people- most of them i know are realy kind and genarouse folks that would help anyone for nothing in return i feel sorrow for them and hope one day they will see it`s not a rite or wrong thing, its a spiritual thing. i think i would feel very alone if i believed their was realy no god. i dont think i am living rite and dont know why god helps me but he does, thank god.


Helll yea, god healed your dying wife then let all them African's die of starvation, totally plausible
lol


If she wasn't under medical care, I think she would have died. My brother was in an almost two month long medical coma, but even in the hospital, if the doctors didn't do everything they did at the time, he wouldn't be here.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Kada]
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Oh any by the way I'm tired of this "Well there must have been something to create something" bullshit.

The only answer that makes any sense is that there ALWAYS HAS BEEN EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

Existence is Infinity ~


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
Compaq12986 said:
How do you discredit all the scientific evidence that ghosts and the paranormal do exist?


There is 0 scientific evidence of ghosts. There are dip shits with cameras on tv tho.



:rofl:

(btw this was the best quality one i could find in english)


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
Compaq12986 said:
How do you discredit all the scientific evidence that ghosts and the paranormal do exist?


There is 0 scientific evidence of ghosts. There are dip shits with cameras on tv tho.


I love how people record those electronic voice phenomena and think they are hearing ghosts. I once had a person tell me, "You can't hear them speak, because they are out of our hearing range, but when you record it, the recorder can pick it up, so you can hear it when you play it back". If it's recording the sound at a frequency below our hearing range and you play it back without any pitch shifting, how the fuck do you think you can hear it coming out of a speaker at a frequency outside of your hearing range?


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said:
Oh any by the way I'm tired of this "Well there must have been something to create something" bullshit.

The only answer that makes any sense is that there ALWAYS HAS BEEN EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

Existence is Infinity ~


But the universe can't have existed for an infinite amount of time, otherwise we would be able to see every object that gives off light in the entire universe. We can only see so far because the light from further than that hasn't had enough time to reach us. If you get me.

Or at least that's what current knowledge tells us. Of course there could be some reason making that not the case.

I have a more pantheist view of the universe: in that God = universe/reality. I don't like the word God anyway, it's too anthropomorphic. I believe that the universe is all one single connected item; all matter is the same thing, and all part of the same reality. So I'm simply one part of the universe, subjectively experiencing itself.

Just my personal opinion on god + reality etc, I haven't fully formed what I think, but the more you learn, the more ideas change.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd]
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We are just swimming in a molecule soup. Yum.


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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd]
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mongo lloyd said:
pfxtc said:
Oh any by the way I'm tired of this "Well there must have been something to create something" bullshit.

The only answer that makes any sense is that there ALWAYS HAS BEEN EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

Existence is Infinity ~


But the universe can't have existed for an infinite amount of time, otherwise we would be able to see every object that gives off light in the entire universe. We can only see so far because the light from further than that hasn't had enough time to reach us. If you get me.

Or at least that's what current knowledge tells us. Of course there could be some reason making that not the case.

I have a more pantheist view of the universe: in that God = universe/reality. I don't like the word God anyway, it's too anthropomorphic. I believe that the universe is all one single connected item; all matter is the same thing, and all part of the same reality. So I'm simply one part of the universe, subjectively experiencing itself.

Just my personal opinion on god + reality etc, I haven't fully formed what I think, but the more you learn, the more ideas change.


I don't think our current knowledge of physics is enough to determine anything really. Infinite is the only possible answer to existence if you think about it (apart from those heirarchies or What created this or Who created that which don't make any sense).

I believe the Universe is in fact one deity as well, although I don't know if I'd label it as a God or not. The interesting thing to think about is if there's other deities. I'm almost positive there's other Universes. What makes a Universe unique in my opinion are the physical laws governing it. Maybe these laws evolve differently in the other parts of this so called Multiverse. Hell the more we learn about our own laws, the more we realize such laws are often fallible and can break down at any moment. Do physical laws evolve and change? Probably so.

It's fun to think about. The natural world is much more interesting then anything religion has to offer.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

Edited by pfxtc (02/11/11 11:43 AM)

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Re: Proof God exists and why atheists can suck it [Re: mongo lloyd]
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mongo lloyd said:
pfxtc said:
Oh any by the way I'm tired of this "Well there must have been something to create something" bullshit.

The only answer that makes any sense is that there ALWAYS HAS BEEN EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

Existence is Infinity ~


But the universe can't have existed for an infinite amount of time, otherwise we would be able to see every object that gives off light in the entire universe. We can only see so far because the light from further than that hasn't had enough time to reach us. If you get me.

Or at least that's what current knowledge tells us. Of course there could be some reason making that not the case.

I have a more pantheist view of the universe: in that God = universe/reality. I don't like the word God anyway, it's too anthropomorphic. I believe that the universe is all one single connected item; all matter is the same thing, and all part of the same reality. So I'm simply one part of the universe, subjectively experiencing itself.

Just my personal opinion on god + reality etc, I haven't fully formed what I think, but the more you learn, the more ideas change.


That encapsulates alot of my views.


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