Mr.Al said:

So anna, how does a party platform of small government equate to Nazi Fascism?

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Republicans push to widen 'war on terror' detention
Mon Nov 15, 9:38 pm ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) – One of President Barack Obama's top critics in the US Congress called for bolstering US powers to detain "war on terrorism" fighters -- including US citizens -- indefinitely and without trial.

"Congress should ensure no court in the land questions the legal authority for our forces to prosecute this war," Republican Representative Buck McKeon, who is likely to become chair of the House Armed Services Committee next year.

McKeon and other top Republicans worry that a measure authorizing military force against those behind the September 11, 2001 terrorist strikes may not be keeping up with the shifting battlefield and enemies in the global conflict.

So they want to reaffirm the original measure and strengthen it, so that it would cover groups like Yemen-based Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), which did not exist when the original measure was drafted, and individuals like radical Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaqi, who has US citizenship, aides said.

"We need to reaffirm -- in statute -- the authorization to use military force of 2001," McKeon, who has sponsored legislation to beef up US powers to hold enemy combatants, said in a speech to a foreign policy forum.

The bill declares the US government has the right to detain any unlawful enemy combatant, including a US citizen, "without criminal charges and without trial" for the duration of the conflict, "consistent with the law of war."

Such a proposal would be sure to draw fire from civil liberties advocates and human rights groups who have criticized US detention policies in the "war on terrorism" as overbroad and violating US due process.

Republicans, who take over the House of Representatives when a new Congress convenes in January, hope to hold hearings into various proposals to expand detention powers and solicit input from the Obama administration, aides said.

McKeon has been a leading critic of the Obama administration's stated goals of trying terror suspects in US civilian courts and of shuttering the Guantanamo Bay detention facility for terrorism suspects.

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Seuss said:

> but thats what they call "small" government...

I can call my piss liquid gold, but that doesn't mean that is it actually gold.

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Small (federal) government means a (federal) government void of social welfare programs, with minimal regulation, with little taxation, with a strong defensive military, with a small federal police force, that leaves the bulk of governing to the individual states and for the most part stays out of the People's lives.

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Annapurna1 said:

if by "off base" you mean the use of the phrase "nazi fascism"..then you can thank mr al.. whom i would agree is off base...

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(sarcasm) Yes, that's exactly what i mean

You prove my point.


By the way "nazi" means "national socialist"

Care to explain how socialism = small government?

no wait,  please spare me and don't.  I don't want nightmares tonight.

zappaisgod said:

Not only that but a majority of the people in California said no to marijuana, which isn't even a drug worth taking.

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Seuss said:

Small (federal) government means a (federal) government void of social welfare programs, with minimal regulation, with little taxation, with a strong defensive military, with a small federal police force, that leaves the bulk of governing to the individual states and for the most part stays out of the People's lives.

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Seuss said:

> By the way "nazi" means "national socialist"

I've used the same argument, but to be fair, the Nazi party was far from socialist.  Just because they used the term socialism doesn't mean that they followed the tenants of socialism.  Perhaps they would have turned to socialism, eventually, but I doubt it.

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RationalEgo said:

Seuss said:

Small (federal) government means a (federal) government void of social welfare programs, with minimal regulation, with little taxation, with a strong defensive military, with a small federal police force, that leaves the bulk of governing to the individual states and for the most part stays out of the People's lives.

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Not to mention that this is exactly the opposite of fascism, forced taxation aside. Obamas policy decisions however..........

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Learyfan said:

That's fucking scary.

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ToiletDuk said:

So what do you guys propose we do with the chronically unemployed, elderly and disabled? Shoot them or gas them?

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Mr.Al said:

Many Republicans who were elected recently claim to be interested in cutting government across the board.

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Annapurna1 said:

Mr.Al said:

Many Republicans who were elected recently claim to be interested in cutting government across the board.

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whatever they may claim.. military and prisons are never on the cutting board...the repugs simply mean to transfer any cuts to infrastructure and social programmes to military and prisons...

more specifically..when they talk about "small government"..they mean limiting govt to the role of a hit squad.. which is not the same thing as reducing its overall size...

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