auweia said:

haha...that's a freakin log....yeah I've seen that before, and yes it will do that if you put a log on top of chips...both cyans and friscosa

sheer coincidence I found yet another patch with both types today near the homeland, San francisco (friscosa)

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amilibertine said:

Why can't I find something like this in Ohio

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Because you live in North Dakota.

elprawn said:

amilibertine said:

Why can't I find something like this in Ohio

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Because you live in North Dakota.

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Few places are more boring than Ohio, but I imagine that North Dakota is one of them. 

amilibertine said:

elprawn said:

amilibertine said:

Why can't I find something like this in Ohio

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Because you live in North Dakota.

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Few places are more boring than Ohio, but I imagine that North Dakota is one of them. 

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woodruss67 said:

im here in ky, have found gym species,and ovoid's,but not those yet.

great finds.

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amilibertine said:

I wonder how difficult it would be to start an outdoor patch of these in SW Ohio?  I'm gonna be trying to start a Psilocybe azurenscens patch now that a certain someone sent me a print.  I'd love to attempt to grow these as well.

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TimmiT said:

Beautiful photo of an awesome mushroom Mr. M

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bmarley3434 said:

Mr Mushrooms. is that japanese knotweed seeds that youre gathering for a friend? its a scary invasive. very medicinal (specifically with lymes) and apparently loves to protect actives.. but people are spraying alot of herbicides because of it. id be nervous to spread it because it really crowds out non natives. wondering your perspective on that sort of thing.

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avidpicker said:

Nice cyanofriscosa, Lets see if they can make it to PA

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Mr. Mushrooms said:

I don't think we know the connection.  Recently Bretdaniel suggested that Ovoids piggy-backed from Japan on the Japanese Knotweed.  That's the most reasonable theory I've heard but it has problems.

1.  Only a handful of states that have it have Ovoids.

http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/map/faja1.htm

2.  I have had experience with the plant since the mid 60's.  It was sold by Burpee seed catalog as an ornamental for yards under the name American Bamboo.  A yard will not, under most conditions, support the growth of Ovoids.

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amilibertine said:

Wow, that's an interesting theory.  Do we know for sure that the Japanese and American Ovoids are the same genetically?  I know there been some work done comparing West coast and East coast species.  Were there Japanese collections worked on as well for comparison?

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auweia said:

psilocybe ovoideocystidiata found San Francisco

touche!....heeheee

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auweia said:

psilocybe ovoideocystidiata found in San Francisco

touche!....heeheee

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Those were planted there I bet.

There's Psilocybe tasmaniana and Psilocybe caerulipes growing in Seattle at the moment, but I will never disclose the location because I planted the patch last spring.

BlimeyGrimey said:

auweia said:

psilocybe ovoideocystidiata found in San Francisco

touche!....heeheee

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Those were planted there I bet.

There's Psilocybe tasmaniana and Psilocybe caerulipes growing in Seattle at the moment, but I will never disclose the location because I planted the patch last spring.

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nice work blimey!

psylosymonreturns said:

nice work blimey!

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yes, that's very possible, except that they were likely planted by me..You see, this landscaping area has been there for 3 years now, and even last year there has been nothing, cause I checked it thoroughly

but I did discover another Ovoid spot in SF last year that got raked by gardeners because it's in a famous location and tightly controlled, so I made a point of taking the fresh ones from last year and biking all over the place, including this place, dropping spores

but that doesn't explain how they got to the other place last year..this is last years spot, currently nothing, I checked it this morning



the other problem is, we don't get wood chips from Ohio, or anywhere east of the Mississippi..they all come from california and oregon, and sometimes washington...that's just a historical tradition because why would we ship chips all the way from out there?..there's plenty of wood here, even more than back east

so planted, maybe, but I can tell you for certain that I was absolutely stunned at this years patch and how big it was, because I know the place, in fact both places is less than 3 years old..the chips are basically new, and I've been checking both places nearly every week since last year

It doesn't make any sense that it was planted by somebody else, then why didn't they pick them before I got there...half the time I got there almost too late

Nay, I find it hard to believe that this was anything other than natural atmospheric transmisssion and that they found a 'niche' in san francisco's climate..the same way most other mushrooms spread themselves around, mostly through the air, especially when it gets windy

I know it might be hard to imagine that spores can get carried on the wind up through 16,000 feet and ride the jet stream..If pollen can do it, so can spores

the only problem is, nobody will ever be able to prove it..Nobody will ever make a video of the ride a spore makes through the air, or if they do, I wanna f*cking see it on youtube

but for me, that doesn't even really matter..the fact now is, that Ohio has a piece of san francisco, (friscosa) and now san francisco has a piece of ohio(ovoids)

and as far as I can see, though still rare, the few tiny 'niches' they found here in SF, they like it a lot, so I'll help where I can to get them to like it some more

hehe 

PS, I planted cyans in this new location about 50 feet from the new ovoid spot in SF last year, still nothing, but I did take a couple of ovoids from last year and simply held it in my hand and walked all through there, back and forth, along with other places, so for this specific landscaping, it seems the spore drops worked better

BlimeyGrimey said:

auweia said:

psilocybe ovoideocystidiata found in San Francisco

touche!....heeheee

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Those were planted there I bet.

There's Psilocybe tasmaniana and Psilocybe caerulipes growing in Seattle at the moment, but I will never disclose the location because I planted the patch last spring.

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Mr. Mushrooms said:

Pretty cool I think.

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Indeed...beautiful... Interesting, I thought you were from the UK for some reason... 

BlimeyGrimey said:

There's Psilocybe tasmaniana and Psilocybe caerulipes growing in Seattle at the moment, but I will never disclose the location because I planted the patch last spring.

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BlimeyGrimey said:

psylosymonreturns said:

nice work blimey!

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Thanks, but I haven't got a chance to check on the patches to see if they actually fruited yet. I just know that in September mycelium was spreading quite nicely.

It's our duty as members of this site to spread Psilocybes to any environment that they have a chance of surviving in, at least that's what I believe.

And I wish MM would take me off ignore already... this stupid grudge has went on long enough.

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auweia said:

Nay, I find it hard to believe that this was anything other than natural atmospheric transmisssion and that they found a 'niche' in san francisco's climate..the same way most other mushrooms spread themselves around, mostly through the air, especially when it gets windy

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auweia said:

btw, this also doesn't explain how yet another sub species got to SF about a mile away, also new at the time in 2008..I did some research on the contractors for the landscaping and they sub contract with east bay chip suppliers (by the ton), who get the base chips from oregon, the grind it down further and process it

so this is a relative of p oviodeocystidiata, purely conical, primarily a spring fruiter and difficult to fruit for that reason, unlike the newest ovoids in SF, which fruit in fall

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New or undiscovered?  2008 was predicted to be a bumper year for mushrooms.  The plethora of new species and uncommon species that turned up that year was remarkable.  That was the year P. caerulipes was first discovered by a member here, me.

What are you basing its relationship to Ovoids?  The morphology is radically different.  Beautiful mushrooms.