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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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Yeah it depends on your perspective on the matter


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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appleorange said:
learningtofly said:
Is your left leg you or a part of you?


Both.


So if I cut off my leg and handed it to you, would say "That is learningtofly" or would you say "that is part of learningtofly"

If you say the former, you are neglecting to include the rest of my body and therefore I believe it is false to say that my leg IS me


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: learningtofly]
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Its not false if you also include the person your handing the leg to as also being yourself.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: soldatheero]
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Really it doesn't matter either way, this is off topic.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: learningtofly]
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I simply mean, the number of souls is not limited by the people on the earth and not limited by their point of death.

Souls should be, by definition, universal, so they fit into every being, plant, animal, stone. And if the question is 'how many angels can rest on a needle's tip', then how many souls can be there, born or unborn in earth's space ?
Nevermind, after death, if something survives, it has different dependencies on space and time, than our physical body and our mortal mind, in regards to that what we generally understand as 'soul'.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
appleorange said:
learningtofly said:
Is your left leg you or a part of you?


Both.


So if I cut off my leg and handed it to you, would say "That is learningtofly" or would you say "that is part of learningtofly"

If you say the former, you are neglecting to include the rest of my body and therefore I believe it is false to say that my leg IS me


This is a good example.

If we could you destroy all your body parts save for the brain and kept it alive somehow via some science fiction marvel, would that still be you?

Are you the brain and the rest is just your toolbox?

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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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No you are you the brain is not you the brain is a tool, the mind is a tool. A carpenter is not his hammer and it would be silly for him to think he is, similarly to the hammer the mind and brain are tools.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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appleorange said:
learningtofly said:
appleorange said:
learningtofly said:
Is your left leg you or a part of you?


Both.


So if I cut off my leg and handed it to you, would say "That is learningtofly" or would you say "that is part of learningtofly"

If you say the former, you are neglecting to include the rest of my body and therefore I believe it is false to say that my leg IS me


This is a good example.

If we could you destroy all your body parts save for the brain and kept it alive somehow via some science fiction marvel, would that still be you?

Are you the brain and the rest is just your toolbox?


no. the brain would be part of me, but it is not all that is me. to say that "my brain is me" is to say that "the rest of my body is not me"


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: soldatheero]
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soldatheero said:
No you are you the brain is not you the brain is a tool, the mind is a tool. A carpenter is not his hammer and it would be silly for him to think he is, similarly to the hammer the mind and brain are tools.


How is a carpenter not his hammer?

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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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no. the brain would be part of me, but it is not all that is me. to say that "my brain is me" is to say that "the rest of my body is not me"


Where's the me that all this stuff belongs to then?

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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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me is the whole, all of my body parts together is me.

It's like a puzzle, if you have a big ol' puzzle and you take out one piece, would you consider that the the puzzle or just a puzzle piece?


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
me is the whole, all of my body parts together is me.

It's like a puzzle, if you have a big ol' puzzle and you take out one piece, would you consider that the the puzzle or just a puzzle piece?


So, if you spit, that spit was once you and once it leaves your mouth it is no longer a part of you?

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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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How is a carpenter not his hammer?




Uhh cuz I hammer is a hammer and a person is a person? LOL this is gold im cracking up here.
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Where's the me that all this stuff belongs to then?


It's spiritual right so it has no geometric properties, its called metaphysical.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
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"Reincarnation debunked by simple math" Yeah that's pretty fucking simple alright.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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appleorange said:
learningtofly said:
me is the whole, all of my body parts together is me.

It's like a puzzle, if you have a big ol' puzzle and you take out one piece, would you consider that the the puzzle or just a puzzle piece?


So, if you spit, that spit was once you and once it leaves your mouth it is no longer a part of you?


Exactly, it's a part of me but it isn't me.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: soldatheero]
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Quote:
Uhh cuz I hammer is a hammer and a person is a person? LOL this is gold im cracking up here.


You used your fingers to type that message, no differently than how you would use a hammer to hit a nail.

The body is obviously an instrument which you manipulate, so you cannot be the body.

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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
appleorange said:
learningtofly said:
me is the whole, all of my body parts together is me.

It's like a puzzle, if you have a big ol' puzzle and you take out one piece, would you consider that the the puzzle or just a puzzle piece?


So, if you spit, that spit was once you and once it leaves your mouth it is no longer a part of you?


Exactly, it's a part of me but it isn't me.


Then where the hell are you then?

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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: appleorange]
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The body is obviously an instrument which you manipulate, so you cannot be the body.


Excellent you have proved my point I make on this forum virtually daily.


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: soldatheero]
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Question is when did I say I was the body? Why are you telling this to me?


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Re: Re-incarnation debunked by simple math. [Re: soldatheero]
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soldatheero said:
Quote:
The body is obviously an instrument which you manipulate, so you cannot be the body.


Excellent you have proved my point I make on this forum virtually daily.


If you are not the body, then what exactly are you then?

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