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The Multi-world Theory
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DISCLAIMER: this is just a theory I have been speculating on. I am not certain whether or not it is true. And when I speak of multiple worlds I am not implying that other beings live in these other worlds. I am using the term world to describe the particular vibration of energy at which one perceives planet earth. And within these other worlds are the same creatures and objects that one normally sees, the difference is is that one sees these creatures and objects within a different energy vibration than what one is normally aware of. 

Normally humans perceive a small fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum. During peoples experiences on psychedelic drugs they sometimes become aware of electromagnetic energy fields they were not not normally aware of. These energy fields are sometimes seen and sometimes they are felt, they are seen as auras and felt as vibrations(vibes). So while on psychedelics people experience alternate levels of awareness. These alternate levels of awareness can be described as alternate worlds. These alternate worlds exist on planet earth but exist at different levels of vibration. Thus planet earth is a nexus upon which multiple worlds are intertwined with one another.

It is possible to access these alternate worlds through means other than psychedelics. Access to these other worlds is possible through opening the third eye. To see with the third eye is called second sight. To open the third eye one has to focus their attention on the third eye, this focus of attention opens the third eye because where ones attention goes there ones energy flows. In order to acquire enough energy to activate the third eye through focus on it one has to avoid experiencing the sexual orgasm. Through avoiding the orgasm a person gathers energy. Proper sexual conduct is to only engage in a sexual orgasm for the purpose of producing babies. Focus on the third eye is best done in a state of calm. One can enter a state of meditative calmness through whispering OM softly outloud to oneself. One should not make third eye activation a primary activity, it should only be done seldomly on certain occasions. Meditation purely for calming purposes is what out to be done mainly and daily meditation is preferable to a unorderly meditation schedule.

The use of psychedelics to awaken the third eye is potentially dangerous because due to the fact psychedelics open the third eye artificially(even natural psychedelics do it artificially) people often experience delusions while on psychedelics in addition to experiencing insights. These delusions can persist after the psychedelic experience if one has not taken time to evaluate the experience and separate delusion from insight. The natural method of awakening the third eye is the safest and it is not less intense then the psychedelic method of awakening the third eye.

If a person accesses other vibrational realms while in a psychedelic state or while in a meditative state one should not speak of what one experiences during to others. The reason for this is that to perceive reality in a way that is not normal has been classified as schizophrenia and people thought to be schizophrenic by psychiatrists whom they have a clinical relationship with are prescribed drugs that cause brain damage. In reality schizophrenia is a imaginary disease, there is no such thing as schizophrenia.

The universe is the sum total of all the worlds existing on planet earth and the different worlds of planet earth are the different vibrational frequencies of electromagnetic energy. The significance of the universe is not that space extends beyond the earth to encompass other planets. The significance of the universe is that multiple worlds are available to be experienced on this planet. The universe is explored through altering ones level of awareness to come to perceive various vibrations on the planet.

Edited by lines (02/16/09 11:05 PM)

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: lines]
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Cool theory, have you had any experiences that confirmed this theory? What would those other worlds be like?

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: Diaboleros]
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I'd speculate DMT and a few other tryptamines have the chemical ability to export consciousness to these other worlds. During meditation DMT is somehow induced to produce, just like you said, by focusing energy. My most recently feat of spirituality has been working on opening my "Energy Body," as described in Robert Bruce's "Astral Dynamics." I have had many sychronicities surrounding this. I believe it is important to fill your heart chakra before moving to the crown, and the stomach before the heart. These are the three energy reservoirs of the body.

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: Diaboleros]
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Diaboleros said:
Cool theory, have you had any experiences that confirmed this theory? What would those other worlds be like?



I have no experience confirming this theory. However I have avoided experiencing a sexual orgasm for two years and I do feel like I have more energy as a result. I also feel happy.

I have not tried activating my third eye. I have read that it is activated through focusing attention on it. I have not felt a desire to try doing that though because I have been focused on other things for the past year.

Edited by lines (02/16/09 11:36 AM)

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: lines]
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lines said:
I have no experience confirming this theory. However I have avoided experiencing a sexual orgasm for two years and I do feel like I have more energy as a result. I also feel happy.




If I could only go two days... I don't know how long my girlfriend would stay around either. That definitely takes some self discipline.

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I would say it's inertia. Once you get past a month and half its easy.

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: lines]
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lines said:
I would say it's inertia. Once you get past a month and half its easy.



Thats dangerous.
Jerk off my friend.
Occasionally practicing abstinence is ok but going two years is down right unhealthy.
You can cause prostate problems for yourself , and the energy you havent released sexually will be directed to all the wrong places.

As to the multi-world theory .. i wouldnt call it multi-world. Its all one world.
One would think that if you raise your vibrational frequency enough you could experience " "them" all.. But the truth is.. you would perceive nothing.
My opinion is that the highest you can go is to experience this nothingness , and realize that it is everything.
Beyond vision.. beyond word.. beyond all and any form of sensory input.
During one of my most siginificant experiences i actually realized that  every psychedelic experience is nothing more than communication. Further on .. any kind of experience is communication.Interaction.
It is true that the messages coming from these plant teachers can sometimes be distorted by our own limited perception and ability to fully comprehend this communication.
This is why i give a big thumbs up for the mushroom.
And let me tell you why i think it doesnt fall under your category of artificial boosters.
First it creates a feeling of ecstasy. This is purely the effect of the body. Even though it is all processed in the brain  , it does not alter the minds perception except that its being told that the body feels amazing.
Once this ecstasy has made its emphasis .. the egoistic mind no longer seeks pleasure , therefore the non-existence of desire , turns slowly into the non-existence of thought.
When the mind is still .. the experience that follows is purely meditative if you have gone into the experience with this objective on your mind.
Once the vibratory state has risen .. in this meditative state you choose , again , communication. Being that first consciousness in your vicinity is the mushroom .. the communication is often with the mycelium through their smallish representatives already in your bloodstream by then.
Which doesnt mean that you cannot consciously direct your focus elsewhere. Whether its aliens from a different solar system .. or the infinite creator himself which resides in every little atom of the universe. This is why everything is communication.
We are all basically talking to ourselves..
I know it sounds a bit confusing.. oh well.
I guess what i am overall trying to say .. is that visions are just misunderstood telepathy.
And i find it more appropriate to communicate without them. I just want pure knowledge, information. No pretty pictures to come with it.
(this is long i know.. ill bring it to an end)

On the other hand.. we have ayahuasca and DMT. Seperately .. and combined.
Ayahuasca has a primary job of diminishing the veil between the mind , body and spirit.
And furthermore diminishing the veiling between the conscious and subconscious mind.
So for the most part.. the visions are a lucid dream enhanced in color and comprehensibility by the dmt. Again .. the source of information/for communication varies.
You can communicate with your body = healing , the vine itself.. etc .. there really is an infinite amount of possibilities.
If the dmt has overshined the amount of beta carbolines .. or if you focus on this part of the experience.. becoming out of body is almost inevitable.
Thats where the dmt story begins.
And even though it is still communication.. you have the opportunity to "feel" like you are actually in another place.
The spirit although still connected to the body , travels to wherever the conscious focus has directed it..
OR.. and this is where its interesting..  you can travel in the direction of other conscious entities that almost gravitationally draw you towards them if you decide to jump in their little vortex/tube. The "elvish" hold most of these pathways , as they are our guardians.
IMO this is why so many people report self-transforming machine elves. If you are pure enough to resist other possibly negative influences tainting you into their reality you will almost always end up with these fellas..
But like i said... its always a choice .
There are cases where certain "individuals" wish to go beyond these  commonly experienced  realms , where you must gain permission from a different kind of entities.
shit...
didnt really bring it to an end did i :frown:

im out..
i will be back !


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: jivJaN]
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jivJaN said:

And even though it is still communication.. you have the opportunity to "feel" like you are actually in another place.
The spirit although still connected to the body , travels to wherever the conscious focus has directed it..
OR.. and this is where its interesting..  you can travel in the direction of other conscious entities that almost gravitationally draw you towards them if you decide to jump in their little vortex/tube. The "elvish" hold most of these pathways , as they are our guardians.
IMO this is why so many people report self-transforming machine elves. If you are pure enough to resist other possibly negative influences tainting you into their reality you will almost always end up with these fellas..
But like i said... its always a choice .
There are cases where certain "individuals" wish to go beyond these  commonly experienced  realms , where you must gain permission from a different kind of entities.




Do you think these "self transforming machine elves" are real? I recently read that bees perceive wavelengths of electromagnetic energy that people in normal consciousness do not see. I think it is possible that what people call self transforming machine elves are actually bugs and that while on psychedelics peoples minds adjust so that they can see reality in a way that is similar to the way bugs perceive reality.

Maybe they are aspects of being within peoples own consciousnesses?

I am open minded on the issue and I am not sure what people are talking about when they speak of self transforming machine elves.

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: lines]
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I find it difficult to answer any question like that.
Is it real ? Are they real ...
I understand the direction of your query and i will try to explain strictly from my POV and ask you to take it with much skepticism , for i would not want to impose my own conclusions on you.
Yes.. they are very real.
Insects.. generally all animals are second density beings. This means that they do not have awareness of the self , as this is a 3rd density property, which we inhabit at this moment in what we call time.
I find it quite impossible that animals can convey messages of spiritual growth to an entity already much more evolved than itself. Insects are considered on of the less developed beings even among the animals.
Which is not to say that communication is impossible.
Ive had too wondered who they actually are..
The thing is.. any entity you encounter during these experience will be in time/space .. thus it is very difficult to categorize any being.
For some reason i have wondered whether they might be pleiadian , being that they have been much involved in the evolutionary progress of humans of this planet and the pleidian race much resembles the elvish look when it comes to appearance.
They are self-transforming /shape shifting .. and this should not startle anybody.
I believe we are all shape/shifters because we are more than one thing :smile:
Furthermore... many of these beings try to adjust their appearance towards something you might be comfortable with , so that the communication may be emphasized instead the awe, and amazement .. which they so often like to say. Do not give in to astonishment. Because they cant help you if you are so focused on the bizarreness of the time/space environment.
I have to go now.. but i will be back tonight.
I look forward to continuing this conversation. Always one of my main areas of interest :smile:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: jivJaN]
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What does time and space appear to be like when a person encounters these things? What sort of ideas do people have about life or things or whatever?

I still think its possible these things people call self transforming machine elves are bugs and that the ideas people have during these experiences are the result of the human brains interpretation of the electromagnetic wavelength that bugs are in tune with. But I like I said before I really don't know what they are and I don't know who to believe and maybe I never will know who to believe, and maybe no one in all the world has offered the right answer as of now.

Edited by lines (02/16/09 07:53 PM)

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: lines]
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You cant really put a label on it.

As for the bugs.. it is known that the ayahuasqueros of south america use ayahuasca sometimes to get in touch with the animals of the jungle.
Jaguars , birds ,snakes .. even insects. They dont really describe it as the entities we have been discussing.
Btw.. there have also been reports of people who had contact with what appeared to be insect looking humanoids when they smoked or injected dmt.
If you have interest you should look up a thread on these forums .. it is called
The DMT chronicles..
Read up on that and tell me if you still think its bugs :smile:
I agree its an interesting theory though...


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: The Multi-world Theory [Re: jivJaN]
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That thread looks like it has a lot of information on DMT experiences. Another thing that came to mind as I was reading it is that maybe DMT causes people to experience waking dreams. I think I read somewhere that while people sleep natural DMT production is responsible for some of the dream experiences.

The human brain is fascinating and contains immense depth to it.

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