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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: Chronic7]
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Chronic777 said:
always loosely...


i can see why some guys say they can read thoughts etc.. i can also see why OC says that its all nonsense

believeing or believing in not believing, its all belief
all belief is distortion of what actually is


if you aint buying, nobody can sell you shit!

:peace:


how do i place the clapping emoticon ?

:smile:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: jivJaN]
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Not like that, thats the smiley one


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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: Grapefruit]
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Things such as spontaneous ESP however are much more solid experience than "I heard a noise".


With a total approaching 30,000 (I have no life) posts, I have covered this (along with nearly every other subject) in great detail.

A common ESP experience is the 'we both thought of the same song at the same time'. This is almost always two people of the same generation and in roughly the same area with many shared experiences and thus share similar cues or triggers. Usually it is a recent song or one that had some importance to the two of you in the past and almost always a song with lyrics, as words cause associations. If you and I tripped together and I was thinking of a Rachmaninoff's 'The Bells' choral masterpiece, I doubt you would ever pick up on that.

GF, there are trillions upon trillions of events every day on earth and there will always be some events coinciding. Those that do not coincide are ignored. This is know as data mining or data selection and is the cornerstone of the mystic's mistaken mindset.


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (12/03/08 11:02 PM)

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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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What gets me is that I'm always ridiculously skeptical during the telepathic experiences that I've had while on psychedelics, and I've always empirically tested them (told my partner to say a specific sentence, or to speak a specific word at an indicated time).  So far the tests seem to have confirmed the subjective experience, so either the illusion is extremely convincing or I've managed to successfully induce delusions of telepathic grandeur.

The experiences are completely spontaneous, however--I can't force their occurrence nor does it happen every trip.  I have to have a prior connection with the partner and I need to be face-to-face.


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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: jivJaN]
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jivJaN said:
Chronic777 said:
always loosely...


i can see why some guys say they can read thoughts etc.. i can also see why OC says that its all nonsense

believeing or believing in not believing, its all belief
all belief is distortion of what actually is


if you aint buying, nobody can sell you shit!

:peace:


how do i place the clapping emoticon ?

:smile:


Where do I place the puking emoticon? Bullshit gets applause?

Here is the ENORMOUS diff between OC and the mystics: if I say I can do something, I can do it on any day of the week and in front of 1 or 1000 witnesses under bright lights and cameras.

The mystic can only do it in low light with a few like-minded and easily-fooled people.


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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
What gets me is that I'm always ridiculously skeptical during the telepathic experiences that I've had while on psychedelics, and I've always empirically tested them (told my partner to say a specific sentence, or to speak a specific word at an indicated time).  So far the tests seem to have confirmed the subjective experience, so either the illusion is extremely convincing or I've managed to successfully induce delusions of telepathic grandeur.

The experiences are completely spontaneous, however--I can't force their occurrence nor does it happen every trip.  I have to have a prior connection with the partner and I need to be face-to-face.


Hone your act with your partner and then cash in on the millions and be set for life.

FYI, no paranormalist has ever even passed their own self-designed pretest for the Randi Millions and almost all of the testees were sincere and were certain they had special abilities.


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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Hone your act with your partner and then cash in on the millions and be set for life.


I'll send ya half.  Just don't spend it on too many Vegas hookers.


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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: deCypher]
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Despite popular misconceptions, prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. :nonono:

However, it is perfectly legal to blow $150 on dinner, another $180 on a show and then a thousand on gambling and then even more on drinks and cover charge at the Ghost Bar in the Palms with a date and still not get laid. Not saying that ever happened to me or anything...


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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Define Paranormal: Beyond the range of normal experience or scientific explanation
(American Heritage Dictionary)

This does not necessarily mean "magical".

What is normal experience, what is the realm of science, and what is explainable?

Normal is an illusion of social bias, and what is explainable is similarly limited by language. Finally, science is limited to observable causality; or pragmatically speaking, is driven and conceived in terms of what we can find useful.

There are aspects of reality that are and probably always will be beyond human understanding. We can study reality, but we should not deceive ourselves into thinking anything is normal, or that we could understand it in totality.

Chronic said it more succinctly
Quote:
believeing or believing in not believing, its all belief
all belief is distortion of what actually is.



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Re: Paranormal Events [Re: daytripper23]
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:yawn:


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