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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Sclorch]
    #1606476 - 06/03/03 10:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

that would be nice... then maybe i could see the pure truth.. and not have to beat around the bush. if your talking to an end... i dont know of it


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OfflineMurex
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Swami]
    #1606521 - 06/03/03 10:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)


The fact is that there is no proof that anything paranormal or metaphysical exists. I don't think anyone here could really argue that. I know you know this Swami.

BUT, that doesn'tmean that it doesn't exist! We might be able to proove this stuff in the future, but now we can't do a whole lot of reasearch for this stuff. Reasearch costs money, and there are more 'important' things to reasearch than the paranormal or the metaphysical.

:tongue:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Shroomism]
    #1606545 - 06/03/03 10:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Alright Swami, I'll be seeing you astrally tonight. Friends in tow.

How will I recognize you? There is going to be a swarm here tonight. Does your astral body also have the same tatoo as your physical body?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Murex]
    #1606558 - 06/03/03 10:53 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Reasearch costs money, and there are more 'important' things to reasearch than the paranormal or the metaphysical.

Not so little brother. Research in this field goes back hundreds of years. People research what is most important to them. Thus far the data is inconclusive. The best out there is the Princeton PK studies which show some deviation from chance, but which may be explainable through statistical anomoly or researcher bias. Second best is the Stanford prayer study on heart disease and recovery which was not tighly controlled and had a relatively small sample size.


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The proof is in the pudding.


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InvisibleShroomismM
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Swami]
    #1606765 - 06/04/03 12:28 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well then perhaps we need to research this area much more heavily and openly than we are currently doing.

My astral body has not the same tattoo, but you will recognize me...I'll tell you telepathically  :wink:.. Also have been noted as emitting a white light and carrying a bright purple aura


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Offlinethestringphish
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Shroomism]
    #1607111 - 06/04/03 03:08 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

all this is presuming scientific testing can draw significant conclusions about paranormal activity. I belive most paranormal activity goes beyond the boundries of science, and is therfore, out of it's reach.


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"this is life changing"

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InvisiblePhalanxx
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: ]
    #1607158 - 06/04/03 03:57 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Swami,
  I'm glad to hear that you ARE open-minded to some degree. That's a start. Keep in mind that chronic skepticism can result in self-deception too.

  You didn't answer my question about if you had ever taken any psychedelic drugs, so I presume you have not. Many, if not most, people here developed their spirituality by using mushrooms and lsd. Maybe trying them out would soften your  attitude a bit, and make you more optimistic about finding what you seek. They are worthy of investigation if you have not done so.

  Spirituality is ripe for self-delusion, and I'm glad you are here to keep people grounded and balance things out. Spiritual experiences are as insubstantial as dreams and impossible to prove. If I said I saw a ghost, how could I prove it to you? If a ghost spoke to me, how could I prove it? You could say how could I prove it to myself, that I wasn't deluded by mushrooms. Good point. It cannot be proved either way. All one can do is be open-minded to both possibilities.

  Good luck with finding your "proof". And thanks for the permission. If I ever acquire paranormal powers, your's will be the first house I will visit, after Pamela Anderson's. :grin: 


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Offlinejohnnyfive
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: spiritshaper]
    #1607655 - 06/04/03 11:05 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Actually man you replying to swami, not me (johnnyfive)

Swami, ill find your evidence and then start a post, and my evidence will be the research into the stargate program! Which i have no time to do now.


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1607710 - 06/04/03 11:27 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm....

Watching SG-1 on the Sci Fi channel doesn't count though, okay?


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Offlinejohnnyfive
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Sclorch]
    #1607961 - 06/04/03 12:57 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

nice one sclorch, no the stargate program is actually the remote viewing project.

swami says that it was trashed due to it not working and i say that YES IT WAS TRASHED but not because it didn't work, but because they were expanding operations!


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1607970 - 06/04/03 01:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

...and Project BlueBook was disbanded; not because there was no evidence of extra-terrestrial visitation, but because...


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Offlinespiritshaper
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Re: Testing your Paranormal Hypothesis [Re: Swami]
    #1609656 - 06/04/03 10:43 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

swami,

give me some feedback on my last post man, don't leave me hangin', i know you read it =P

when i made that post i figured it would be best if i tried to think of you in a positive light rather than a negative one. if i cast you in a negative light that wouldn't be very productive and would only cause negative things to happen as a result.

one must first understand the natural flow of life before one can advance any further in a spiritual sense.

laterz,
Spiritshaper


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