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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Shamanic pilgrimage
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but since it's about a spiritual journey I figured P&S would be best.

My friends and I are looking into the possibility of organising a pilgrimage across Peru, with a local shaman acting as our guide for traditional ayahuasca and san pedro rituals along the way. I stumbled across this organisation which offers tailor made journeys which seem like exactly what we're looking for, but they only accept groups of 10 or more. Unfortunately the trip would cost somewhere in the region of £3000 and I don't know that many people who can afford to stump up that kind of dough...

Out of interest, would anyone here be interested in joining us on this kind of journey with fellow shroomery members some time in late 2009 - early 2010?

nb. the itinerary in the link is only an example and we would be able to tailor it to suit our specific desires once we had enough people to make the trip feasible.

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Limus]
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I just buy it on the internet and then take a trip into the mountains. Cost, about twenty to forty bucks including gas.:thumbup: If I'm looking for something exotic I go to Burning Man.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Icelander]
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If I'm looking for something exotic I go to Burning Man.


They can treat that with penicillin.


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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I just buy it on the internet and then take a trip into the mountains. Cost, about twenty to forty bucks including gas.:thumbup: If I'm looking for something exotic I go to Burning Man.


Yes, but the point of the journey is not the drugs... I'm not that dumb. If I just wanted good drugs, I'd be doing pharmahuasca, which is a darn sight easier to organise and a whole load cheaper too.

The point of the journey is the traditional shamanic rituals with a peruvian shaman, while visiting a variety of the most important historical sites of a civilization that embraced DMT as the basis of their entire religion. Surely that is worth more than a couple of baggies from the net and a tank full of petrol?

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Limus]
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Maybe to you it's worth it. I would rather go fly fishing in New Zealand.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Icelander]
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Look at that Talking Stick website. I read of some recent events  too. Every year there also is the Shamanic conference in Amsterdam or someplace. Lots of stuff always happening.


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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: eve69]
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I ceased to be interested at the point I realized I did not need them experience my own neo shamanic reality.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: eve69]
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If I had the money I would be with you 1000%. My friends are way more into "getting high" than I am. I prefer psychedelics to open my mind to new experiences and let thoughts flow as opposed to creating thoughts to process. My DREAM would be to go to an Amazonian or native American shaman and go through the experience with him, or a trained psychedelic therapist.

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Icelander]
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I guess it would be cool to hang out with a bunch of people tripping in some ancient ruins or high in the Peruvian mountains, but to consider it some sort of "serious" spiritual journey would rob it of it's charm. I would just consider it a party. However, those types of things are way too expensive.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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That is only because you are not attuned to the energy vortex there.

Smudge your aura daily.


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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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If we could bring Pink Floyd into the Mayan ruins...maybe Chichen Itza, for a concert wouldn't that be awesome? I'll sit on top of the Temple of Quetzalcoatl pyramid for the show.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
I guess it would be cool to hang out with a bunch of people tripping in some ancient ruins or high in the Peruvian mountains, but to consider it some sort of "serious" spiritual journey would rob it of it's charm. I would just consider it a party. However, those types of things are way too expensive.


You are of course absolutely right...my use of the word pilgrimage and the other sacred language I attach to the whole thing is a tad over the top. Never the less, even if in reality it's only scratching the surface of the true shamanic experience, psychology is a huge part of any mystical experience, and acting as though it's sacred makes the religious aspect of it feel all the more real.

Is it frivolous? Sure, but a bit of frivolity never hurt anyone!

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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Limus]
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Sure, but a bit of frivolity never hurt anyone!


Care to make a wager?


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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Limus]
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I like the diea of the travelling but £3000 is fucking ridiculous for some touristy setup 'shamanic experience'

:peace:


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Re: Shamanic pilgrimage [Re: Chronic7]
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Someday ill go to Peru and try something similar. Thats after college, i get a career, get my debt under control, THEN i can do it.


SOMEDAY!


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"The important thing is to have a body doing the right actions, and your mind doing Nothing"

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