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New footage of moving lights in sky...
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http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-14011

This is the best footage of moving lights ive ever seen! Some one tell me thats not a UFO!

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: cottlestonpie]
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weird, wonder what it was

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: cottlestonpie]
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I swear I can almost hear helicopters in the video but IDK. Also I noticed towards the beginning an average plane flies right by it, at a pretty low airspeed.

I'm a true believer in UFO's but I try to objective. Other than those things the footage is pretty unique. I'll give it that.

Edited by 2FiNiTe (04/22/08 03:15 PM)

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: 2FiNiTe]
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I think think this footage is just going with the trend. Maybe the ET's are slowly introducing themselves via footage like this. I suspect that in 5- 10 years the footage is gonna get better and clearer and just mind boggleing. At after a while it wont be just be believers talking about it. It will be on the front page of every newspaper in the world.... some day.... sigh

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: cottlestonpie]
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> Some one tell me thats not a UFO!

Look like marker flares to me.


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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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how do flares stay in the sky for so long? I read some other comments under the video claiming flares as well. Could you maybe give a link to some info on the types of flares you are talking about? Sounds interesting

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: fear.loathingSF]
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> how do flares stay in the sky for so long?

Parachute. The burn time of the candle is 5 minutes. They also get lighter as they burn, thus they descend slower and tend to move around more freely in the last few minutes.

I was actually thinking of http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/luu2.htm when I wrote the above, but the one below matches almost perfectly in color and duration.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/luu19.htm

Burn time is 7 minutes and illumination is near infrared.


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Edited by Seuss (04/22/08 03:41 PM)

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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Thanks for the info on flares. I was wondering how long they burned for.

Edited by psyka (04/22/08 03:50 PM)

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: psyka]
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it looks like deliberate movement to me. I guess I could buy that the wind is the cause but it does see like they are under control. There is also no smoke that is visual. the lights change from white to red also. But the more I look at it it could possibly be flares.

Edited by cottlestonpie (04/22/08 04:08 PM)

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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Thanks for the flare info, never knew about those.

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: cottlestonpie]
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Theres alot better footage than that out there!

Check out this spaceship



It was filmed and photographed by hundreds of people over Belgium. It was chased by two military F-16's and picked up by 2 separate radar towers. The F-16's recorded it performing maneuvers that are considered impossible by our current laws of aerodynamics and much of the time it flew into space to avoid the F-16's.


Theres no question if UFOs are real or not anymore. The questions are what are they and where do they come from. IMO they indicate an extra-terrestrial presence here on Earth.

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Ego Death]
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> Theres no question if UFOs are real or not anymore.

That is as closed minded as the people that claim that alien UFOs cannot be real. Same coin, opposite side.


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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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I think affirming UFOs is what most people would call open minded. I am skeptical. People have for always searched for meaning, often finding more than was available. It's expansive thinking. I have always thought it is better to be happy with what we have. And be sure, or be open to possibilities not comdemning others even for their expansiveness. Because those people keep it safe to still believe in things for no reason and that still can be considered normal. Otherwise thought police would come to ensure total correctness. So at very least UFOs keep the topic of 'what if' open.

Now these pictures got me for a second, but the flare thing seems pretty OR (Occam's Razor).


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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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I can be as certain that UFOs are real as I am that I'm sat here writing this.

Thats as far as certainty ever goes.

Of course nothing is 100% certain.  I could be rigged up to the Matrix for all I know.


If you agree there is an objective reality.  Then the statement stands.  If you don't then thats a whole new discussion.  :wink:

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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as the people that claim that alien UFOs cannot be real


These are the same people.

For example, Nick Pope was the head of the UK Ministry of Defenses UFO research department. He has publicly stated that when he first started the job he was skeptical and expected to be able to debunk the phenomena. When he finished working there he openly stated that there was no doubt the phenomena was real and seemed to be indicating the existence of advanced craft not of Earthly origin. Equally Dr. J. Allen Hynek was in a similar boat.

The point is - the skeptic soon becomes the believer when they study the phenomena with any depth.

The UFO phenomena doesn't just equate to people seeing misidentified objects in the sky anymore. Theres masses of evidence that includes pilots sighting craft which is also corroborated with radar evidence.

Then you have cases such as Rendleshamforest where highly trained military personnel report touching a landed craft. They take radiation readings which are 10 times background radiation only in the exact spot the craft landed. These guys were US and UK soldiers guarding our nuclear supplies. Some of whom who viewed the craft were of an extremely high ranking.

When research is done into the subject it quickly becomes apparent that its impossible to deny the reality of the subject. As Pope and Hynek realized.

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Ego Death]
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> I can be as certain that UFOs are real as I am that I'm sat here writing this.

But that was not your initial claim. You said, "Theres no question if UFOs are real or not anymore." There is a big difference between the two. Let me see if I can explain, in different terms... I have proof beyond any doubt that there is more to reality than meets the eye, however; this is proof that only applies to me. I have no way to show others that what happened to me was real, or meaningful. Thus to me it is certain, but to others it is not.

I'm not doubting your claims or your belief. I am trying to show why your certainty doesn't apply to me. It is a very fine line that I hope you can appreciate.


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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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its us, from the fewchureeee


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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: token matt]
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So, why still no outright proof of UFOs? Given the eyewitnesses? If lots of cows lived and died there would be bones. Why don't UFO's fly over large cities? Do you guys think they are controlling governments on Earth? Or understand them? Are they coming out now? Once when I was meditating I dreamed a second of a large eyed face and felt it was alien and very old. But it was a dream. I wish UFOs were real. They just debunked those last lights on the news as they were helium baloons and a light.


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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: Seuss]
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Indeed I do.

Thanks for explaining.

I'm interested in hearing why you hold the belief there is more to reality than meets the eye. Care to share?

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Re: New footage of moving lights in sky... [Re: eve69]
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Why don't UFO's fly over large cities?


LOL,
They do!

Theres the Belgium mass sighting, theres the Brooklyn bridge incident and many more.

A better question would be why is it not common knowledge? But thats a big one...

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