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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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I stole that avatar from some other poster like any good Christian would.:lol:

I have always been impressed with saints and such in the church who seem to be able to ignore the blatant hypocrisy  and evil and go on to do the Lords work? It baffles my imagination. Kind of like the so called honest cop who has to ignore the fact that a lot of the rest of the police are on the take.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: Icelander]
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This is why at my age I am reluctant to refer to myself as a Christian. Not for any shame of being allied to Jesus, but for fear of being regarded by others as allied to any number of their projections. And the fear is not related to my self-esteem, it is related to my intention for clarity on behalf of the hearer. I say "Christian" and one person smiles assuming that I believe as he does, that his mythos is historical fact. Another goes away envisioning me wailing in an evangelical church. Yet another pictures me trembling at the words of a Hell-fire and brimstone Baptist preacher while some Ozark churchgoer asks me if we use rattlesnakes or copperheads in my service. I'm soon condemned to perdition by Fundies, the likes of which we find at the unlikely place as The Shroomery, and my childhood friend who has become quite Greek Orthodox in his old age stopped using psychedelics long ago but venerates icons with his equally Orthodox wife, and he, a physicist by training has fallen into the intellectual trap of regarding doctrine as historically true, particularly the Resurrection.

I am heterodoxical and stand isolated from people who hold to doctrine rather than to gnosis. Ironically, I 'Know' what others 'Know' at The Shroomery, but what I choose to couch 'gnostically,' although colorless in itself.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

Edited by MarkostheGnostic (10/09/07 03:23 PM)

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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I am heterodoxical and stand isolated from people who hold to doctrine rather than to gnosis.

I hear ya. Actually in my very liberal town most any Christian I have met has leanings in your direction. Mostly though, Buddhists and new agers here.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: Icelander]
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Nice to hear there's someplace where Christ is being born in the wombs of human beinghood instead of hearing about more of the empty tombs of churchianity.


'Easter' - Jefferson Airplane

Golden velvet robes on Pope Paul, he's
talking--he's stalking devils of flesh. Rides
through the streets instead of walking. I think
his holy story is a mess. All I did last Easter
all I did was paint some eggs. It was a
resurrection holy day-- no more nails in the holy
legs. Only one true holy book in your hand.
Singing in Latin nobody understands. Licking
wafers paper thin.

Ah, stupid christian isn't it grand? Is that your
reason for this day? Do you have a little
something holy you'd like to say? Something about
a magic, sacred, holy day. You look holy and
humble on your knees, but it looks funny when you
run that way. Pope Paul taking all your money for
turning your feet into clay (pigeon).

One man of peace dies, and a hundred wars begin.
You keep murdering people in his Christian name--I
thought he said--I thought he said that was a sin.
Soldier where have you been? What is your reason
for this day? Do you have a little something holy
you'd like to say to me? Something about a magic,
sacred, holiday. All I'm going to do this
easter--I'm just going to look for eggs. It's a
resurrection holy day--no more nails in the holy
legs. No more brains in the Christian.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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In this you an I agree. The mean servants have taken the kingdom. Nothing left to do but go it alone for better or worse.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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There is nothing wrong with being homodoxical...


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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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yea but i guess its relevant to say that it invalidates it all

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: NiamhNyx]
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After being to some amazing Goa parties (but, aren't they all amazing?) its hard for me to find any religious rituals, even the most elaborate and beautiful, to be very moving. Admittedly, I haven't had that great of an exposure to any Eastern rituals, but the Catholic and Protestant ones I've experienced seem meager. The Baptists come close, but I can help feeling like I'm surrounded by idiots that would lynch me if they figured out I was pro-choice.

The Dionysian atmosphere at some of these Goa parties seems to blow everything else away. It's hard to imagine anything that could dissolve my ego so completely as dancing for hours and hours on end to loud music, surrounded by other dancing glowing people, in the middle of a forest at night. The laser lights, blacklights, and giant psychedelic tapestries don't hurt either!

So... yeah, as far as reaching altered states of consciousness without drugs goes, I'm a big fan of dancing.

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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This is why at my age I am reluctant to refer to myself as a Christian. Not for any shame of being allied to Jesus, but for fear of being regarded by others as allied to any number of their projections.


As some Subgenius put it: "I love Jesus, but I hate his fan club."

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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The Dionysian atmosphere at some of these Goa parties seems to blow everything else away. It's hard to imagine anything that could dissolve my ego so completely as dancing for hours and hours on end to loud music, surrounded by other dancing glowing people, in the middle of a forest at night. The laser lights, blacklights, and giant psychedelic tapestries don't hurt either!

Yeah yeah yeah:thumbup: That is the draw for Burning Man. It's fucking awe inspiring. I have never been so blown away by anything in my life next to peaking on psychedelics. Fortunately there you get both.:whoa: I might just have a sweeter attitude toward humanity if the BM and the Goa crowd ruled the day. Fortunately many of them pass into my little town. It's definitely on the circuit in the US.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: i went to church tonight [Re: Icelander]
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I've heard Burning Man described as "the ultimate Goa party", which makes me want to get my ass over to Black Rock City as soon as possible!

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