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Elders Wisdom Council:
Prophecies revealed from Ancient to Modern

Featuring: Oren Lyons, Agnes Baker Pilgrim, Woody Vaspra,
Mercedes Barrios Longfellow, Bob (Bubbunj) Weatherall,
Patrick Flannagan, Zorigtbaatar Banzar, Nicky Scully
and other guests....
Please see Elders Page for more information
on these honored guests.

We are now in the time of prophecy, a time of great change. For the second year at Earthdance we welcome the "elders council", as they share their views on the alignment of prophecies from around the world. This panel will explore "prophecies" from an ancient to modern (scientific) perspective.

Topics that will be explored include:

* What do the prophecies predict?

* What do they say about the world today, the situations that are occurring on our planet and the time we are living in?

* What gifts and messages do the prophecies have for us, individually, collectively and for our Global family?

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According to the Mayans the world will end on 12/21/2012.

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Crop circles are real. People also make crop circles, but they can't immitate the ones made by the 'Circlemakers'. Anybody who does any kinds of real research will come to this conclusion.

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OrgoneConclusion said:

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Crop circles are real. People also make crop circles, but they can't immitate the ones made by the 'Circlemakers'. Anybody who does any kinds of real research will come to this conclusion.

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Uh huh, so when three of the top 'cereologists' declared a 100% man-made crop circle (filmed in its entirety from beginning to end) as "genuine" (meaning NOT man-made) what are we to make of this?

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Forum Rules said:

Attempting to disprove or discredit an idea will not be tolerated. If you wish to debate and argue a position, the Philosophy & Spirituality forum is your alternative.

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Why do you even bother posting your flippant BS Orgone?

GTF out of here!

OrgoneConclusion said:

I don't suppose you have a single causal or evidentiary link between the Mayans, crop circles in England, helicopter lights in the night sky and a constellation a zillion miles away.

I am sure you can work Nessie and Bigfoot into the 'equation'...

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Interesting Crop Circle Facts

In total, over 10,000 crop formations have been documented worldwide. Over 700 of them appeared in 1991. Of the 229 formations reported from around the world in 2004, 33.9% of them appeared in England, where crop circles tend to cluster around sacred megalithic sites such as Stonehenge, Avebury and Silbury Hill. Other countries with crop circles included Germany (13.2%), the USA (9.2%), the Czech Republic (8.4%), and Italy (8.4%).

Some of these crop circles are made in minutes check out these pictures with people inside them. Take into consideration most are made in the middle of the night on private property. How long and how hard would it be to make this in the middle of the night? How about hoaxing 10,000 of these?

Circle 1





Circle 2

Notice the person inside



Circle 3
This is without doubt a Julia set. This design has 151 circles forming it and has a height length of 385ft at a north/south run. Crop is wheat and the rotations are all clockwise.



http://whereismyhead.com/albums/Triple_Julia/7july96.sized.gif

Crop Circle 4





Crop Circle 5




Anomalies

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The work of the BLT research team (consisting of John Burke, William Levengood, and Nancy Talbott) has placed crop-circle research on a firm scientific footing. Of the 300 or so crop formations sampled and examined since 1990, more than 90% showed anomalous effects in plant tissues and/or the soil. During this period, three research papers have been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, establishing that the creation of many crop formations involves something much more intriguing than human pranksters with planks and boards. Sceptics have objected that much of the BLT’s work has not been conducted in a double-blind manner (so that experimenter bias might have influenced the results), but they haven’t been able to show that the anomalous effects in question can be produced by flattening crop by mechanical means.

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Stalks of flattened crop are usually enlarged and stretched, as if they have been heated from the inside. Sometimes this effect is so powerful that the node literally explodes, blowing holes in the node walls and spewing sap outside the stalk. Node expansion is not always entirely confined to plants within the flattened area of crop, as if some spillover of the energy involved has occurred. There are known mechanisms that explain an increase in node length after a crop is flattened, such as gravitropism (whereby a plant tries to straighten itself after being pressed down), but some studies suggest that this mechanism cannot account for node-length increases of more than about 20%, whereas increases of up to 200% have been measured in crop formations.

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Comparison of nodes within a crop formation (left) and from 75 feet outside it (right).

Node elongation and expulsion cavities have been induced in plants in the laboratory by placing them in a microwave oven for 20 to 30 seconds. Microwave radiation heats the moisture inside the stem which, as it turns into steam and expands, either stretches the more elastic fibres at the top of the plant, or blows holes in the tougher nodes farther down the stem.




Expulsion Cavities in Wheat

Balls of Light, The Questionable Science of Crop Circles .pdf file
http://www.cicap.org/crops/jse_19_2_159-170_2005.pdf

More to come, wait until I get my scanner hookedup

Also here is an interesting article from the BBC about crop circles and 2012.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/3552168.stm

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Why do you even bother posting your flippant BS Orgone?

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How long and how hard would it be to make this in the middle of the night? How about hoaxing 10,000 of these?

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