blewmeanie said:

Scientology is for loons. A friend of mine went to a stress test with me. When he asked them about the homeless, they said "the homeless don't have a soul, we need to get rid of them" So yeah fuck those brainwashed heartless bastards.

The stress test was nonsense. Its supposed to measure the stressful energy in you body. All I did was slow down my breathing, and the needle drooped off the meter. They remind me of Christian scientists.

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And, as I said in my previous post, you have to differentiate between Scientology, Scientologists and the Church of Scientology. Otherwise you will make ridiculous posts like the one above.

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And, as I said in my previous post, you have to differentiate between Scientology, Scientologists and the Church of Scientology. Otherwise you will make ridiculous posts like the one above.

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Well why don't you tell us the differences since you're at it?
Clear that up because those scientologists freak me up man.

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The basic idea of Scientology is that we are spiritual beings who inhabit bodies and we actually never die, but live multiple lifetimes. (In other words, we aren't bodies who "have souls"

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Jickey Mouse said:

The basic idea of Scientology is that we are spiritual beings who inhabit bodies and we actually never die, but live multiple lifetimes. (In other words, we aren't bodies who "have souls" as other philosophies/religions claim, and that idea is just an inversion in order to confuse and further trap people. Surely you see how religion has been used to trap people on Earth for quite a long time)

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Silversoul said:

Jickey Mouse said:

The basic idea of Scientology is that we are spiritual beings who inhabit bodies and we actually never die, but live multiple lifetimes. (In other words, we aren't bodies who "have souls" as other philosophies/religions claim, and that idea is just an inversion in order to confuse and further trap people. Surely you see how religion has been used to trap people on Earth for quite a long time)

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That is a basic idea of mystical philosophies throughout time. Why don't you talk about the ideas that set Scientology apart, like auditing, irrational fear and hatred of psychology and psychiatry, and of course Xenu and his Galactic Confederacy?

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What made you think I wouldn't talk about these things?

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Silversoul said:

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What made you think I wouldn't talk about these things?

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I didn't say you wouldn't.  I merely was not satisfied with you defining the basic idea of Scientology with terminology that fits just about every religion(and then trying to claim that that differentiates it from other religions).  You then talk about religion being used to trap people, while advocating a religion(self-described as such, and with the tax-exempt status to prove it) that people give millions of dollars to each year because of their faith in its promises(I will respectfully refrain from calling them "empty promises").  Your description of Scientology as being the polar opposite of Christianity also shows a similar close-mindedness and ignorance towards Western religion that you claim we have towards Scientology.

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Time and space are illusions, so just because we are in separate locations doesn't mean that I don't see your intentions or spot the wavelength you exude.

I also like the way you ignore pretty much everything you were wondering about. Which is more proof you just wanted to spout off.

But, to the actual matters at hand, Christianity appeals to the effect side of the coin (victim) when embracing both Cause and Effect are essential to a happy existence, and that is what I meant by Scientology being much different from Christianity.

Spiritual data has been being used for aeons to entrap and enslave people. A brief and honest look at man's history will prove this up.

And I am not advocating Scientology...What I am advocating is that people actually look at what is there and not what someone tells them is there.

I have no closed-mindedness towards Western religions, but I don't think they work or provide real answers to life's mysteries or problems.

is damn right!

Amber_Glow said:

I really don't even know that much about Scientology but I can guess what its about.

I'm sure its an organization that has drawn from a variety of wisdom traditions and psychological knowledge.  It probably has a whole lot of useful methods for overcoming negative mind states and making one happy and better able to cope with life.  This is a lot of what Buddhism is about today.  Look at Rosicrucian societies that are Christian and Hermetic based, they have a lot of good stuff in them.  Its all the same kinda deal.

Yeah sure you have to pay to access their resources but I'm sure it takes a lot of money to run their classes and organize and keep together all their data etc.

As far as Xenu and blah blah blah, oh well they have some allegorical stories that are written in a Sci Fi manner, what do you expect?  Most religions have allegorical stories that seem silly if taken literally.

Madonna got into Kaballah, Tom Cruise got into Scientology.  Same deal either way.  I'd be interested in learning about Scientology because I'm sure it contains a lot of useful methods that can be employed as long as one keeps their wits about them and retain a healthy scepticism.

Pulsating, where do you suggest one turns to learn about Scientology without having to pay any money? 

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Pulsating said:The techniques involved in Scientology can be utilized in the privacy of one's home (as my wife and I do) and can bring about some very interesting states of mind/being...and it's free. Of course, you must acquire your books and materials, but a resourceful person can make this happen with relative in-expense.

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