People would want someone like Michael Jackson to be punished so that he can suffer for what he did. The only problem is that he already is suffering for what he did, and it is suffering that caused his actions.
Isn't it punishment enough just BEING MICHAEL JACKSON?
Has anyone who believes in "Justice" thought about that? What we are seeking in my mind is vengeance or retribution. We might feel better if a formal legal sanction is taken against someone be it violent or not, but this does nothing to eradicate or mend the suffering that the individual took fro his inner head and put into someone else's.
Should we want the world to be just we must be sure that all the seeds that cause violence and harm and hate are eliminated from the collective unconscious and in order to do that we must realize that even the Pope probably has some sort of flickering ghost of a memory about a war movie he enjoyed as a kid where he sadistically laughed at someone getting blown up, and probably somewhere along the line was taught by some sort of person that at the very least, it's awesome to gut fish... or animals are stupid things to be beaten.... or some ethnicity deserves to be hurt.... or the enmies of our nation deserve to die
point is
it's sin
droplets of evil in the ocean and some people can't help but swim through them and be tainted in the process.... and we sit around on our fancy oil tankers leaking the shit into the water and pointing our fingers at those who drown in it saying "what an awful person"
well, it's collective. Maybe it's the devil. Maybe not. Mara, samsara, Satan, Jesus... Nirvana.... they all help to explain this shit phenomenon... but I tell you
if you have bliss you give it to others.
If you have suffering you give it to others. No doubt there are numerous karmic reprecussions, at the very least from society should be caught, but much much broader than that, for all your actions.....
it is not so much from judgement IMO but becuase all your grudge energies create your reality in the present moment and as well upon death create a new reality.
This is why it is hard for me to be around any televisions or go into movie shops. The predominant theme is absurd depravity... it's been credibly and scientifically calculated based upon numerous studies that there would be 10,000 murders less a year if there were no TV.
Everyone you go you get to hear "the devil" whispering in your ear that you should fret about traffic, fret about crime, fret about stupid shit, and be intolerant to your neighbor, that you should build up giant fortresses against love and hole yourself in, that it's okay and the norm and hilarious to be upset about traffic and to be an exploited consumer...... but there are also the voices of the Christed beings infiltrating the matrix teaching the Dharma in its purity [I hope so much so that they leave it completely in tact] trying to get you to realize that all this shit, this fucking samsara, is killing you and causing you to kill others. ... What we need is for every human being to get the deeply personal intervention necessary in order that they begin operating with Dharma consciousness rather than Samsaric..... because it is really tragic that human beings have to play the role of rapist or burglar or victim.... its easy to play the role of comfortable Average Joe and point fingers everywhere but fuck man, we have to clean up the ocean.... these are real human beings just as us and we don't bat an eye at the terrible lives they have, but we're quick to kill Frankenstein when he gets out of line. it has to change now.
the good news is it is changing..... and i think that often times its all in a perspective, but then i hear a woman yelling at her family "stop saying yes i hate it when you interrupt me...... just go meet him at the police station" and on the one hand her suffering is an illusion, because it is a hot ember and you can only hold it until you drop it or it burns your hands off, but on the other it seems to be a central core of her personality programming right now and i'm not sure if she'll drop it or understands that she has a choice not to react in those ways
and then i wonder about all my stupid programs.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!
....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (03/23/07 12:06 PM)
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