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God, i love Peyton Manning even more now.
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not only do i think hes the best QB ever to play the game.. but god, hes just a good guy.. the colts were facing some salary cap issues and could have been forced to cut some key players.. but peyton said fuck his 10 million dollar bonus and restructured his contract, saving the colts over 8 million in salary cap money.

thats fucking classy.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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He is actually the most down to earth professional sports player there is, except Michael Jordan.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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ive never heard of that in pro sports.

:thumbup:


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: barfightlard]
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What a bunch of tools.

He didnt take ANY LESS MONEY.

He's still getting EVERY CENT.

He just said they could pay him later.

Big Fucking Deal.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
What a bunch of tools.

He didnt take ANY LESS MONEY.

He's still getting EVERY CENT.

He just said they could pay him later.

Big Fucking Deal.


Aye.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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I think Brees did the same thing with the Chargers. It was him or someone else while he was on our team.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: AaronEvil]
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I think Tom Brady also did that a couple years ago, but I could be mistaken. Still, that's cool as fuck that Peyton cares more about winning than the money.

Although, he's getting to be like Jordan where he's making more in endorsements than he is in salary. Not that I'm complaining, most of his ads are pretty funny.

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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: belligerent]
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belligerent said:
Still, that's cool as fuck that Peyton cares more about winning than the money.


He. Didn't. Take. Any. Less. Money!


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Oops...I shouldn't read this early in the morning. :blush:

He at least restructured his contract and deferred some money.  Not all players are doing that, so I still give him credit for something.

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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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He won't be collecting interest on it.

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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
belligerent said:
Still, that's cool as fuck that Peyton cares more about winning than the money.


He. Didn't. Take. Any. Less. Money!


let me put it in terms your thick head will understand

If. he. didnt. restructure. the. Colts. would. have. to. cut. someone. and. lose. over. 8. million. in salary. cap. this. season.

its not about taking LESS money, its about restrutering RIGHT NOW. to HELP the team... this actually might help them keep Dominic Rhodes from leaving. and also help keep that vetern O-line and their vetern Linebacking corps in tact.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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Banez said:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
belligerent said:
Still, that's cool as fuck that Peyton cares more about winning than the money.


He. Didn't. Take. Any. Less. Money!


let me put it in terms your thick head will understand

If. he. didnt. restructure. the. Colts. would. have. to. cut. someone. and. lose. over. 8. million. in salary. cap. this. season.

its not about taking LESS money, its about restrutering RIGHT NOW. to HELP the team... this actually might help them keep Dominic Rhodes from leaving. and also help keep that vetern O-line and their vetern Linebacking corps in tact.


I understand that...my head isn't thick...it's just the fro. I understand WHY he did what he did, what I'm explaining is that it is not altruistic by any means...it's just the logical, reasonable thing you'd expect the center of any franchise to do. In fact - it was his only option!


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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how was it his only option?.. he didnt have to restructure.. he could have told to colts to fuck themselves and made them cut someone from the team to put them in the "green" in terms of salary cap money.

to put it in prospective. Troy Vicent was cut from the Skins today all to save the redskins 1.8 million in salary cap.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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Yeah, that's smart, tell your team to fuck off so you get all your money when you originially expected it, and in return you pretty much destroy the team that just won the Super Bowl.

It really was the only LOGICAL choice to make, and like everyone's said, he hasn't done anything special. He gets his money later. He probably didn't even do anything, he probably just told his agent to work it out so he gets his money later but doesn't lose any.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: jewunit]
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No doubt.

And anyone who thinks that athletes dont do this on a regular basis dont pay attention to sports.

This happens all the time.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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I am not aware of the actual language of the contract, but...


Steve McNair did the same type of thing for the Titans for at least 3 straight years. The Titans ended up owning him a 48 or 50 million dollar bonus last summer.

instead of paying him that, they cut him. He was barred from practicing at the team facility, because if he was injured they could not cut him.

again, the actual language of this agreement, is not known to me, but just because they promise to pay, doesn't mean shit.

NFL does not guarantee contracts (for the most part).


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Yeah, that's smart, tell your team to fuck off so you get all your money when you originially expected it, and in return you pretty much destroy the team that just won the Super Bowl.

It really was the only LOGICAL choice to make, and like everyone's said, he hasn't done anything special. He gets his money later. He probably didn't even do anything, he probably just told his agent to work it out so he gets his money later but doesn't lose any.


ok, you took what i said literally.. you dont have to say "fuck off".. you could just not agree to have a restructured contract, and to madtown... more players refuse to take a restructured contract than players agreeing to it.. especially in football, because there is very little guarenteed money... and i believe he is the only player to restructure his contract so far this offseason... and id say it happens maybe 1-2 times with contracts of his caliber (isnt it something in the neighborhood of 90 million>?)

but you are missing the point... he did something to help his team.. why try to put a negative spin on it?

you know what teams trade players, cut players, ect.. (not all the time but in most cases).. it has to do with the salary cap.. its very hard for teams to establish dynasties in leagues with caps because the contracts increase each season.. therefor its hard to have a vetern team without going into the red.. so by this restructure, it allows the colts to keep bringing in young talent.. like your joseph addias and marlin jacksons (just off the top of the skull)

sure he didnt lose anything in the long run, but say he gets injured next year and cant come back from the injury.. it could def come back to fuck him.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Banez]
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By not restructuring your contract you are basically saying "fuck it" and throwing away your best chances of having the team remain intact as is.

And what else did you mean if you didn't mean it literally?

We're not trying to put a negative spin on it, just saying there's not really much reason to praise him so much for it.

And yes, no contracts in the NFL are guaranteed, so I supposed in the long run he could end up losing money.


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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
We're not trying to put a negative spin on it, just saying there's not really much reason to praise him so much for it.




:congrats:

Its not that I dislike Peyton. I really think he's a great QB and his commercials are hilarious.  Best Acting Sports Star, by far.

But I dont think he's a good guy BECAUSE of this move.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: God, i love Peyton Manning even more now. [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
jewunit said:
We're not trying to put a negative spin on it, just saying there's not really much reason to praise him so much for it.




:congrats:

Its not that I dislike Peyton. I really think he's a great QB and his commercials are hilarious.  Best Acting Sports Star, by far.

But I dont think he's a good guy BECAUSE of this move.


So what do you think of him? I think it's a very good move for him. Lets go back to an old Charger favorite Ryan Leaf... that guy wouldnt have done it. Infact, he wouldnt even play. The fact a quarterback of Peyton Mannings calibur is willing to decline additional income for the sake of his team really makes him a GOOD guy/person/player/ect. I dont see how you can possibly think different.


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