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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: dblaney]
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Of Castaneda's books "Journey to Ixtlan". Read "The Four Agreements" by Miguel Ruiz. he presents very clear cut and practical methods for doing this. One must constantly monitor ones thoughts and actions. One can also engage in behaviors that minimize self importance. Understamding what self importance is also helps. Meditation is an excellent tool to use also. I have found much to help me in the Tibetan Buddhist ideas and meditation practices as well.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: dblaney]
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Find yourself a petty tyrant.:hitler: That will take care of it.  I guarantee it.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: EquilibriuM]
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"You sound like Hue who often takes my jokes seriously."

That is because I take nearly everything at face value. I try to not assume.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
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:rofl:


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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That is because I take nearly everything at face value. I try to not assume.

What value does a face have? :confused:

:grin: :wink:

Thanks for the tip, I just added Ixtlan to the top of my 'reading queue' of books to read.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: dblaney]
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When one assumes one is taking what is not known "for sure and real". Only the "for sure and real" should be taken at face value. Assumptions can get you killed. The Lakota tribe had no word or concept for "assume".


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
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Just don't let your defeat of the tyrant increase your self importance. Pride is the real petty tyrant in our lives.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
The Lakota tribe had no word or concept for "assume".


They never assumed that we would take their land and murder them. :frown:

:headbang: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: fireworks_god]
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You missed my point. Reacting to a situation as if you know the outcome can lead to a bad outcome. Our domination of their land was based on firepower and numbers and not much more. Guns can win out over philosophy any day.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I caught your point, I was just making a bad joke. :grin:

Its safe to assume that I'm always making bad jokes. :lol:

If I still had my Lakota to English dictionary, I'd check up on that. The only word I remember was chonleska (not sure if it is all one word like that or "chon le ska", or if that is exactly right anyways :wink:), which was cigarette. Coincidentally, I don't smoke, and never have. :smirk:

:headbang: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: fireworks_god]
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I am glad to hear you have a healthy lifestyle. I was refering to ancient Lakota...the modern version has modern influences.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Just don't let your defeat of the tyrant increase your self importance. Pride is the real petty tyrant in our lives.


I don't want to defeat the petty tyrant. I want to learn to love petty tyrants. I want to use them to defeat my self-importance. They are valuable only in that way.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
When one assumes one is taking what is not known "for sure and real". Only the "for sure and real" should be taken at face value. Assumptions can get you killed. The Lakota tribe had no word or concept for "assume".


When someone says "at face value" I take that to mean that a literal interpretation is used. I was pointing out that there can be other interpretations of a statement, aside from a literal one (eg. metaphorical, symbolic) without jumping to conclusions or making assumptions.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: dblaney]
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True, but I am hard headed, and I often do not see the other possible meanings.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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cool subject hue...

It seems that throughout my life, anytime I tried...I would be met back with that same force (ie manipulating).  I know these are words that I am latching onto, but for me its important to look at them to see where the subconscious is coming into play. 

I really enjoy Zen Buddhism, because of the mode of thinking it puts me in.  What I have got from it thus far, and by no means have I 'got' anything at all :wink:, is that seeing everything as relative to each other puts my rational, objective-dividing mind at ease.  this way the power needs not to be stored as it just flows in an out, without hinderance. 

to store the power is to still use the objective dividing mind (to store means that before you agree in your head that you were without), which to me, is the key reason personal power is afflicted. again, its the mode of thinking that I'm trying to look at. 

doesn't the idea vampires only exist if there is the idea of victims as well?  Do they not co-exist? having and holding the idea of people taking your energy away allows the idea to do so, doesn't it?

is being 'ruthless' on yourself giving you the illusion of draining of power as any other mode of conventional thought (such as addictions)?  sure intensity might be different but the thought still has its impact


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: kaiowas]
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My only description of personal power is the energy you get from food, sun, and air. This energy can be wasted on non-productive activities or it can be utilised efficiently by efficient living. Your reading more into this than I meant. Personal power determines the amount of intent that can be used to focus the will. If your physical energies are being utilised by less productive behaviors it makes less energy available to other behaviors and actions. Think of the way a computer uses system resources and you will have my point. The resources are divided among the processes. If there are too many processes then the computer runs out of resources for taking on new processes.

Being ruthless means to not have pity....not for the self or others. Pity is a demeaning emotion. Either act or do not...if you act out of pity you act out of self importance alone.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Where does all the energy go that we fritter away with meaningless discussions on The Shroomery? Is it being accumulated somewhere?


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I'm Sporetacus!

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Sporetacus]
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Yes, the site owner is absorbing it in the form of your time and effort and converting it to money.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Yes, the site owner is absorbing it in the form of your time and effort and converting it to money.


:rofl2:


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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Yes, the site owner is absorbing it in the form of your time and effort and converting it to money.


Honest question: was that a joke?

If so, hilariously funny, if not, disturbingly sad.


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