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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5630281 - 05/14/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Three guys trying to manipulate reality through awareness, see above,
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Sinbad]
#5630330 - 05/14/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Sinbad]
#5630587 - 05/14/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Although your view maybe open to the sky, your actions must be as fine as a grain of sand" - Guru Padmasambhava
Your actions are only as fine as a grain of sand upon viewing. Stop viewing and your actions will be nothing, and the fruit of your actions will be everything. We only view as long as there is something be to viewed. Rid yourself of reasons to view(karma) and you will no longer live in accordance with dharma, because you are dharma.
Rewardance of fruit is always good, it always satisfies. Satisfication is always good, it rides us of desires. What we are satisfying is not always good. Don't start until you are unsatisfied, and don't stop until you are satisfied.
The fruit that we are rewarded with are of the three modes of material nature: Sattvic, rajasic, tamasic.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5630619 - 05/14/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Our level of "personal power" is dependent upon how spiritualy evolved we are. One can only use what one is aware of. The best thing to be aware of is nothing.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Cherk]
#5631517 - 05/15/06 07:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smoker For Peace said:
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"Although your view maybe open to the sky, your actions must be as fine as a grain of sand" - Guru Padmasambhava
Your actions are only as fine as a grain of sand upon viewing. Stop viewing and your actions will be nothing, and the fruit of your actions will be everything. We only view as long as there is something be to viewed. Rid yourself of reasons to view(karma) and you will no longer live in accordance with dharma, because you are dharma.
Rewardance of fruit is always good, it always satisfies. Satisfication is always good, it rides us of desires. What we are satisfying is not always good. Don't start until you are unsatisfied, and don't stop until you are satisfied.
The fruit that we are rewarded with are of the three modes of material nature: Sattvic, rajasic, tamasic.
Dharma means all phenomena, so yes we are dharma, we can have that realization. But dharma gates are limitless, as is our real nature. Intention, action, and satisfaction all belong to the karmic bank, the one in which we all have our investments. But we need to close our accounts, lets get rid of this investment in order to be free from this karmic condition.
Its like an infinite railway track, that is beginning-less and endless, it would make you dizzy to look at it. So we don't look, we let someone else take care of it, we Buddha take care of it, we just sit and enjoy the scenery without engaging our judgment.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Cherk]
#5631619 - 05/15/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smoker For Peace said: Our level of "personal power" is dependent upon how spiritualy evolved we are. One can only use what one is aware of. The best thing to be aware of is nothing.
Your dogma is barking.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
#5632038 - 05/15/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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How so?
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Sinbad]
#5632083 - 05/15/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What is sitting if there is no action? What is enjoying the scenery if there is no intention?
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Cherk]
#5632087 - 05/15/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Za-zen?
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: MushmanTheManic]
#5632118 - 05/15/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5632124 - 05/15/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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the decosntruction is good but the assumptins are not so good.
truly we composit reality and what we have composited is plastic and artificial, and, by conditioning we have managed to make it a consensual reality.
with psychedelic you can see the fragmentary flaps of it being fit together and we can even abide in the gaps that are more consensually unseamly and not yet knit together.
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the record player which creates the sound form the concentric grooves does not also press the albums. a kind of reverse creation is not at play here. same as the genetic engineer cannot repair the replicants in Blade Runner.
for coming to the precipice and seeing how unreal our reality is, you get a gold star, but in trying to buy something with that star you lose perspective, and leave the land of angels to suffer among men.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
#5632260 - 05/15/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icelander said: IMO you need to look a little deeper. Look where the road is heading.
Looking at the road ahead is just a fruit of the constructive-imagination. One can only predict where things will go and then hope; predicting may be fun for a time, but it uses up energy, and what difference does it make once one drops hope? And one should drop hope, because there is no way to have hope and indifference towards the fruit of the hope simultaneously, because hope is always for the fruit of it.
Once you're fully mindful and aware of the present moment, then you will truly be able to appreciate the road. If you're busy imagining the future of the road, then you will miss out on the real road as it unfolds. And if you aren't fully aware of the present moment, then you will be less able to respond to whatever future events you may imagine if/when they actually occur.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Cherk]
#5632471 - 05/15/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hear talk of nothing. Isn't that something.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
#5632940 - 05/15/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I hear talk of nothing. Isn't that something.
Talk of nothing is something, but you can't listen to nothing.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: redgreenvines]
#5632980 - 05/15/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, my interpretation is an individual interpretation of an existing body of work filtered through many years of personal experience. I also do not think psychedelics are necessary to the warriors path, but they can be a help when confronting the self on ego issues. My interpretation is not perfect, but it works for me and anyone should automatically realize that their mileage may vary.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Cherk]
#5632988 - 05/15/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is my belief that personal power is an energy issue, and it is based on the energy the individual has available. It is a practical issue, and not a moral one at all.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5633949 - 05/15/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its more than that, its a body, speech and mind issue!
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Sinbad]
#5634134 - 05/15/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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All these are manifestations of energy.
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
#5634143 - 05/15/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Exactly.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: The Manipulation of Reality Through Mastering Awareness [Re: Icelander]
#5634200 - 05/15/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not true, energy is a manifetstation of mind, just as our physical body is a manifestation of our energy.
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