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inski
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Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!?
#5543211 - 04/22/06 06:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edited by inski (09/14/11 10:59 PM)
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5543221 - 04/22/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great specimen inski 
I hope you will consider adding the photos to our wiki active species index once your ID is confirmed. http://www.shroomery.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Hunting/Mushrooms
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inski
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroomydan]
#5543236 - 04/22/06 06:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks shroomydan  I'll definately add the pics to the active species index if they are. when I found these ones I walked straight to where i'd found the original ones about two years ago and there they were!! Not sure if I'm keen to sample them inski.
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inski
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5543267 - 04/22/06 07:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also I'll be able to post closeup pics of a cross section tomorrow after i take material for cloning  inski.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5543443 - 04/22/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those are some nice photos. Good job. I really liked the ones in your other threads also.
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inski
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: eris]
#5543476 - 04/22/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks eris  I was just amazed that I found them within a meter of where they were two years ago  inski.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5545007 - 04/22/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey INSKI......out hiking in the Leptospermums again I see......hmmmmm......lookin for something specific ???
lookin at my neihbors Tea across the street right now covered in full red bloom.....cant imagine what a springtime forest trek must be like there in em.....must get huge in the natural.....how big the bases git on em in the wild ?
from what I seen so far looks like to me all roads lead to W. novaezelandiae.....(so far).....genus can be highly variable with lot of cross over MACRO.....
see below you answered my first question by gettin one of those "INSKI" closeups of the pileal cross making sure to highlight tho the apical and terminal portions of the columella inside and gleba.....which would be essential anyway on these ones for a decent addition to species index......
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
#5545796 - 04/22/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats very cool! i have heard very little about this species. have you every tried to veiw the microscopic features or culture it? i would like to see the microscopic features.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? *DELETED* [Re: shroominDole]
#5546848 - 04/23/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5548502 - 04/23/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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WOW.....quite the pictoral presentation.....great cell shots.....did I hear a request for some micropics.....BAM! ....there ya go......
As susupected.....definately Weraroa novaezelandiae
heres a couple spore measurements for reference.....
W. novaezelandiae Spores smooth, elliptic-ovate or elliptical, rounded at one end, 11-15 x 5-8 ?, epispore thin.
W. virescens Spores smooth, ovate or elliptical, one end rounded, the other pointed, frequently shortly pedicellate, 14-18 x 6-8 ?, epispore thin.
of course those should be average sizes..........ya very closely related to Psilocybe and probable ancestor to.......seems to be foolin couple of people on few other threads......dont fully know bout its complete safety so........alot different than our Weraroa here(EDIT:in Cal.)
ya by far our most common Tea here is Manuka (always planted) ......with different bloom colors available......never attain any impressive sizes here.....you wouldnt believe how many NZ natives are palnted in local scapes here......and local here NZ Myoporum is the dominant tree that has escaped in areas next to my house and now wild as they seem to thrive in the salty beach soils for some reason along with other marshy types.....not to mention the giant Pittosporum undulatum trees (Austrailia ?) that can pop up anywhere......from what Ive heard Manuka and Kanuka along with NZ Flax (Phormium....stuffs everywhere here too) are Hawaiis largest invasive plant problem edging out many native communities.....and thanks for all the info and picshots......
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Edited by shroominDole (04/24/06 09:19 AM)
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
#5548652 - 04/23/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thankyou inski I am also another keen Auckland hunter and have read about these in threads also.Its nice to have such a detailed description of the mushroom and habitat.Cant wait to catch these on film
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inski
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
#5550082 - 04/24/06 02:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroominDole thanks  And thanks for the descriptions and measurements, definately Weraroa novaezelandiae.Looking forward to getting a micrometer in the near future.  I think those people were confused with the non active Psilocybe novaezelandiae!. I wont be sampling these until I can get more info. I see you have an interest in NZ plants! As for your teatree, the different blooms are from a number of hybrids available which don't get too big. Myoporum laetum is a nice NZ species naturally growing in sandy soil next to the sea explaining why it grows well were you are presumably near the sea! If you mean Pittosporum umbellatum? it's native to NZ  Does it have a pink flower? Have you seen the Hawaiian Sophora species? inski.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5554206 - 04/25/06 07:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edited by inski (09/14/11 11:02 PM)
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5554247 - 04/25/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great pics there inski. Congrats on your recent finds!!!
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: zee_werp]
#5555874 - 04/25/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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And need I ask for a bioassay report?
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5557513 - 04/26/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, not to sure if i'm going to sample these just yet, what does everyone think? Would be keen to hear some trip reports, is there anyone out there who would share their experiences? What about W.virescens, is it considered active? bluemeanie, one thing I can say is we've sampled the ones from my "Unidentified Psilocybe from NZ" posts and those are by far my favorite!! Much more visual than P.subaeruginosa, no bad gut feeling  Anyway hope someone has some info on the W.novaezelandiae look forward to hearing about it. inski.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
#5557548 - 04/26/06 04:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well theres this post but you posted in it yourself just the other day so I suppose you already know about it!! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4556457/page/0/fpart/2/vc/1
I've talked to a handful of folks who have been tripping on these many times. Apparently pretty popular in wellington. They'd always be like 'blue meanies'...and I'd think...copes in Wellington in autumn? I think not! And it was about the time that I had clicked to this being something different that pics began to surface here at the shroomery of what was indeed these pouch fungi. People I've talked to say 4 average sized pouches is a dose, but apparently even just a single large one can put you on your ass.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: zee_werp]
#5783116 - 06/23/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5788711 - 06/25/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Madness. so these are growing in the waitakeries obviously.... woohoo my backyard! cant wait to go look. Love to hear more about what the buzz is like...
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inski
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: ]
#5788747 - 06/25/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi  I'm not sure if they have been documented from the Waitakare ranges before but it would be worth a look! I found mine in a small pocket of native bush in the suburbs, The area they grow in is very small, probably only a 5 meter square area! I wouldn't recommend ingestion because I think the chemical makeup of these is still relatively unknown. Happy hunting  inski.
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