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damo_shmamo
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5853824 - 07/13/06 05:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Researched as much I can. As far as I know there arent many (if any) that quite look like aucklandii when it starts to decay and turn dark no? i could be mistaken. Although I havent consumed the ones that I have found I am pretty certain i have a correct id.
I have also heard of a few people who speculated they found aucklandii in the Wellington region but I cant confirm that
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: damo_shmamo]
#5863585 - 07/15/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: damo_shmamo]
#5871099 - 07/17/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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the cystidia shape is quite different to subaeruginosa - shaped more long and skinny without the flask-shaped ones you get with subs.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Feelers]
#6632756 - 03/03/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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noone reports physical sickness/vomiting as you would expect frmo a non-edible
You can get mushroom poisoning and not even have it metabolize for a day- as you poop out your intestines into yuor new calostomy bag. Yeah I spell wonderful toonite.
WHAT chemicals are inside that mushroom? This seems slightly crazy- I mean people in NZ munch these down "... the documentation says..." documentation? You mean some guys POV that ate some mushrooms - not even knowing whats inside?
Just seems kinda sloppy. But if you know your area and whats dangerous..
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Civ]
#6633027 - 03/04/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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The first few who tested them out, must have been foolish, however, I think enough people have tried them to acertain that they are not deadly poisonous. NOW, there is little to know research and documentation done on this species, so it is possible that there are poisonous look-a-likes which are not yet known, OR perhaps a sub-species or regional variation is toxic, versus one which has been tried, and caused effects similar to that of Psilocybe species.
Recently Sporeworks made syringes available, and as these mushrooms are by far the most intrigueing actives to me, I am anxious to study them. I feel comfortable enough, that people i trust on this site have tried them, that i think i would try them if i get the chance.
You make good points. This species has only very recently been gaining interest and recreational use, and caution is always advised when ingesting new mushroom species. If someone was unsure of whether or not to try them, i would certainly not pressure them, as i have no proof to settle their fears. And, before trying them myself, I would like to speak with those members who have tried these pouch fungi themselves.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: CureCat]
#6897242 - 05/10/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, Ross Beever's study demonstrate conclusively (as if there ever was any doubt) that this close relative on P. cyanescens contains 4-OH-DMT and its phosphate ester. However, he did not evaluate the toxicology of the species or search for new alkaloids, as far as I can tell. Of course, the heroic amounts of the Weraroa NZ consumed seasonally by the psy-trance ferals does lend one to conclude that they aren't THAT toxic. However, the species does induce a characteristic "wobbly-eye" vision, where it becomes impossible to focus the eyes. This effect is present even when the material has become otherwise inert due to longterm storage or heavily oxidised. I find this slightly worrying, as it could very well be a symptom of toxicity. The effect do, however, appear to be fully reversible. It is possible that it could be caused by a heretofore unexplored (and rather uninteresting?) tryptamine...
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Amarix]
#8532260 - 06/17/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey sorry to dig up an old thread but i have been taking these shrooms for years got introduced tho them in 99 . i'm just wondering if they have been properly analized as i have realized every time i took these shrooms i the double vision you guys are talking about you just can't see straight no matter how hard you try also it causes you to get the "crying laugh" which is hard to explain but basically your laughing your ass off but people looking at your would think your in utter terror as they seem to paralise your face and all your muscles pull down like your crying i was always told it was strickning is this true.
Also on a healthy dose of 50 fresh shrooms i went blind for must of been 30 mins i literally couldn't see my hand in front of my face but didn't care as the shrooms tend to wrap you in cotton wool as such
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: hippie56]
#8626722 - 07/12/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd love to see some fresh insites into this species. Has no one yet done the toxicology in the past 2 years? Not even Workman?
Like hippie56, I've done these more than anything else. They are all I find locally. Last trip, I experienced a little bit of the eye thing. Each trying to look in different directions, finding it hard to focus. But that was the first time.
New information anyone?
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Hence]
#8627540 - 07/12/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive gotten all that from conventional shrooms. double vision is nothing, I've gotten kaleidoscopic fractal reconfigurations of all peripheral imagery. So much so that perspective became completely unrecognizable. yet, vision itself did not blur, the fractured reality is completely in focus, probably more so than usual. but then it tends to be a conglomerate of the repediate manifestation of a single image amalgamated into a swirling sea of aspect-ratio warped afterimages, the boundary between this and the "self" completely obscured. Can't walk, cant act sane, about the only thing you CAN do is see. but what you see makes no practical sense.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Hence]
#8627561 - 07/12/08 11:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course he has a simple search found this in seconds
Outdoor cultivation: Weraroa pouch fungus (updated with microscopy pics) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6144206

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6897241 (SOLD OUT) Weraroa novea-zelandiae : New Zealand Hallucinogenic Pouch Fungus spore syringes now available
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: implee]
#9154273 - 10/29/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Luber]
#9154448 - 10/29/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, Peter wrote that article for the Mycena News. It is a good article.
Can you please not post linking to your other post full of links? Maybe just quote your other post next time.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: CureCat]
#14363453 - 04/27/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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um rather over catious there buddy,
in new zeland these have been taken "recreationally" for a long long time, and are exelent. i would advise any one to try!
they are very good. they are just not known outside of nz as other species elsewhere arnt "active". also they are very very easy to recognise. as they look like alien sperm bubbles!!!! i understand cation, however, no need to terrify folk! theres a good chap
http://sporeworks.com/Weraroa-novea-zelandiae-New-Zealand-Hallucinogenic-Pouch-Fungus-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: gnowave777]
#14363477 - 04/27/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
gnowave777 said: um rather over catious there buddy,
um you're bumping a two year old thread there buddy
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gnowave777
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: gnowave777]
#14363587 - 04/27/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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the new zealand weraroa is well worth a shot, fairly easy to identify, as it looks like an alien translucent sperm bubble. they aint very large and take effect after just one or two are ingested. though at that dosage they have a mild pleasant disassociative effect. after having more than four! WOW! after as few as 15 minutes you begin to trance rapidly, and they take you "under", movement isnt easy or even wanted, and visually swirly, jupiter like smoke forms, and very disassociative, though after a while as you re-enter into more formed thoughts its fairly revelatary. not "useful" in the usual psychedelic sense, but very very good. last a few good hours. taste fairly earthy and woody. and in the ground they last for a long time until eaten by insects! so thats handy. i would LOVE if i could get access to spores and advice on best way to make a "kit" as i would like a supply of these. though the initial "peak" you seem to be fairly incapacitated, it had fairly opium like creativity bursts towards the glide back to earth. very very good. and a nice change.
http://sporeworks.com/Weraroa-novea-zelandiae-New-Zealand-Hallucinogenic-Pouch-Fungus-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html


Edited by gnowave777 (04/27/11 09:10 PM)
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: groople]
#14363626 - 04/27/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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youch! hope thats not a problem. but i thought as i had a lot o experience with those particular shrooms the sharing may have been helpful for anyone googling. cool
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