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Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!?
    #5543211 - 04/22/06 06:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5543221 - 04/22/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great specimen inski  :smile2:

I hope you will consider adding the photos to our wiki active species index once your ID is confirmed.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroomydan]
    #5543236 - 04/22/06 06:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks shroomydan :cool:
I'll definately add the pics to the active species index if they are.
when I found these ones I walked straight to where i'd found the original ones about two years ago and there they were!!
Not sure if I'm keen to sample them:eek:
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5543267 - 04/22/06 07:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Also I'll be able to post closeup pics of a cross section tomorrow after i take material for cloning :laugh:
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5543443 - 04/22/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Those are some nice photos. Good job. I really liked the ones in your other threads also.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: eris]
    #5543476 - 04/22/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks eris :grin:
I was just amazed that I found them within a meter of where they were two years ago :cool:
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5545007 - 04/22/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey INSKI......out hiking in the Leptospermums again I see......hmmmmm......lookin for something specific ???

lookin at my neihbors Tea across the street right now covered in full red bloom.....cant imagine what a springtime forest trek must be like there in em.....must get huge in the natural.....how big the bases git on em in the wild ?

from what I seen so far looks like to me all roads lead to W. novaezelandiae.....(so far).....genus can be highly variable with lot of cross over MACRO.....

see below you answered my first question by gettin one of those "INSKI" closeups of the pileal cross making sure to highlight tho the apical and terminal portions of the columella inside and gleba.....which would be essential anyway on these ones for a decent addition to species index......


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5545796 - 04/22/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

thats very cool! i have heard very little about this species. have you every tried to veiw the microscopic features or culture it? i would like to see the microscopic features.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? *DELETED* [Re: shroominDole]
    #5546848 - 04/23/06 08:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5548502 - 04/23/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

WOW.....quite the pictoral presentation.....great cell shots.....did I hear a request for some micropics.....BAM! :eek:....there ya go......:bow:

As susupected.....definately Weraroa novaezelandiae


heres a couple spore measurements for reference.....

W. novaezelandiae
Spores smooth, elliptic-ovate or elliptical, rounded at one end, 11-15 x 5-8 ?, epispore thin.

W. virescens
Spores smooth, ovate or elliptical, one end rounded, the other pointed, frequently shortly pedicellate, 14-18 x 6-8 ?, epispore thin.

of course those should be average sizes..........ya very closely related to Psilocybe and probable ancestor to.......seems to be foolin couple of people on few other threads......dont fully know bout its complete safety so........alot different than our Weraroa here(EDIT:in Cal.)

ya by far our most common Tea here is Manuka (always planted) ......with different bloom colors available......never attain any impressive sizes here.....you wouldnt believe how many NZ natives are palnted in local scapes here......and local here NZ Myoporum is the dominant tree that has escaped in areas next to my house and now wild as they seem to thrive in the salty beach soils for some reason along with other marshy types.....not to mention the giant Pittosporum undulatum trees (Austrailia ?)  that can pop up anywhere......from what Ive heard Manuka and Kanuka along with NZ Flax (Phormium....stuffs everywhere here too) are Hawaiis largest invasive plant problem edging out many native communities.....and thanks for all the info and picshots...... :thumbup:


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5548652 - 04/23/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thankyou inski
I am also another keen Auckland hunter and have read about these in threads also.Its nice to have such a detailed description of the mushroom and habitat.Cant wait to catch these on film  :smile:


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5550082 - 04/24/06 02:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

shroominDole thanks :laugh:
And thanks for the descriptions and measurements, definately Weraroa novaezelandiae.Looking forward to getting a micrometer in the near future. :wink:
I think those people were confused with the non active Psilocybe novaezelandiae!.
I wont be sampling these until I can get more info.
I see you have an interest in NZ plants!
As for your teatree, the different blooms are from a number of hybrids available which don't get too big. Myoporum laetum is a nice NZ species naturally growing in sandy soil next to the sea explaining why it grows well were you are presumably near the sea!
If you mean Pittosporum umbellatum? it's native to NZ :cool:
Does it have a pink flower?
Have you seen the Hawaiian Sophora species?
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5554206 - 04/25/06 07:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5554247 - 04/25/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Great pics there inski. Congrats on your recent finds!!!


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: zee_werp]
    #5555874 - 04/25/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

And need I ask for a bioassay report?


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5557513 - 04/26/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, not to sure if i'm going to sample these just yet, what does everyone think?
Would be keen to hear some trip reports, is there anyone out there who would share their experiences?
What about W.virescens, is it considered active?
bluemeanie, one thing I can say is we've sampled the ones from my "Unidentified Psilocybe from NZ" posts and those are by far my favorite!!
Much more visual than P.subaeruginosa, no bad gut feeling :eek:
Anyway hope someone has some info on the W.novaezelandiae look forward to hearing about it.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5557548 - 04/26/06 04:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well theres this post but you posted in it yourself just the other day so I suppose you already know about it!!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4556457/page/0/fpart/2/vc/1

I've talked to a handful of folks who have been tripping on these many times. Apparently pretty popular in wellington. They'd always be like 'blue meanies'...and I'd think...copes in Wellington in autumn? I think not! And it was about the time that I had clicked to this being something different that pics began to surface here at the shroomery of what was indeed these pouch fungi. People I've talked to say 4 average sized pouches is a dose, but apparently even just a single large one can put you on your ass.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: zee_werp]
    #5783116 - 06/23/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5788711 - 06/25/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Madness. so these are growing in the waitakeries obviously.... woohoo my backyard! cant wait to go look. Love to hear more about what the buzz is like...


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: ]
    #5788747 - 06/25/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hi :smile:
I'm not sure if they have been documented from the Waitakare ranges before but it would be worth a look!
I found mine in a small pocket of native bush in the suburbs, The area they grow in is very small, probably only a 5 meter square area!
I wouldn't recommend ingestion because I think the chemical makeup of these is still relatively unknown.
Happy hunting :cool:
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5788988 - 06/25/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ya I think Id go slow on those......especially anything not widely tested cause you can have so much variability in the chemical make up of things from different geographical locations where some varieties of one species may be ingested no probs in one place and toxic in another local.



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If you mean Pittosporum umbellatum? it's native to NZ :cool:
Does it have a pink flower?





I dont think ? Ive ever seen P. umbellatum here but you never say never in this area......Im pretty sure ? P. undulatum is original to Oz tho extremely invasive to NZ.....but its got small white flowers with extremely (nice) aromatic wavy (undulating) leaves and can get huge! here commonly planting itself(birds) in both local native and yard scapes with no probs.......also got a HUGE Myoporum in the back yard and the ground cover version of that Myoporum has become one of our dominant planted roadside plants.

Cabbage trees (along with Aussie & NZ / Tasmanian Tree Ferns) have also always been common characters here in yards and dont think Ive ever seen any with the ability to escape here but we have a couple small groves bout 300 - 400 miles up from here along the NorCal coast which have become naturalized from escape up in the Redwood fog belt in open areas growing right along side the giant Coastal Redwoods (Sequoia) interestingly.....also seen large amounts of escaped Sacred Datura (Brugmansia) sanguinea in one area along the coast.

And aye !.....you want Eucs (Gums)......get a 100 ft here in a wink(not quite the 400ft forests of Oz) and are planted in every buisness, school, store, etc. landscape and Orange/ Avocado groves and at the right time of year you cant find one that doesnt (EDIT:have)the Common Sulfer Shelf Fungus(Laetiporus sulphureus) exploding out the bottom but exceptionally bitter on Eucs for some reason :confused:

So its not so much a special interest NZ and Oz plants as its just we got more of them here than yoall  :grin:


Just want to mention also that just because something has Psilocybin it doesnt mean it doesnt(love double negatives) have something in it that can kill you....there are for instance species of Inocybes which have been found to contain active indoles and which blue quite readily but is not something you would want to consider in the least with such a deadly group.....


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5789036 - 06/25/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hey Inski, I gotta tell you man, I am envious of your location- you find the funkiest, most unusual, awesome mushrooms!!!!

Well at least you have a digi cam, So I can atleast drool over my keyboard.  :tongue:
I am really intrigued by these Weraroa, more so than any other active genus. 
What do you think about the culivation of this species?  It micorrhizal, huh?

Oh yeah, I am in the process of moving so I will not/have not been on as much lately- I missed this post when it first showed up!


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: CureCat]
    #5789111 - 06/25/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Weraroa are extremely closely related to Psilocybe and many consider it to be the ancient ancestor to the whole Strophariaceae family and like the rest of the family stricly saprobes (dead material) and non mycorhizal.....we also have an incredible looking Weraroa here in California which occurs in swampy areas tho its not active...

NZ is some of the most incredible looking rainforest (true rainforest ?) Ive seen on the tele (and believe me Ive traveled the worlds rainforests from the tele) from all the shows they film there now (takin away our bis)....its almost too perfect and clean lookin....almost looks fake like if you were create the perfect jungle set.....most of shows look like that.....maybe theyre all shot in the same general area.....is it true what they say there's some chick runnin round the jungles down there in a leather 'MINI' with long black hair and a big giant sword and her little girlfriend always right there by her side kickin dudes behinds ???.....Lucy Flawless or sumthin.....Id let em catch me...


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5789795 - 06/25/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,

I found these specimens out in Raglan yesterday, which is south of where Inski found his ones.

Super strong bluing reaction with any damage. These were found growing on rotting leaf material, made up of a mix of cabbage trees and flax. I am interested in trying them, although you seem more cautious of them in this thread than others.



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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: montmont]
    #5789971 - 06/25/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,

Some cross sections of what I found..



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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: montmont]
    #5790014 - 06/25/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

As a note, the cut mushrooms have gone vivid blue where they have been cut, in the space of 5 to 10 minutes.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: montmont]
    #5790721 - 06/25/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Got tons of Flax (Phormium) here also....grew up with one by my front door.....we used to beat the hell out of it......now I get my plants beaten up......" what comes around........."

Ya Id just say go with caution on anything not thouroughly tested which these are NOT especially in all geographical locations if really at all.....

Leave it to the Guinea Pigs....especially with the SUB action some areas can get like yours.....I shutter to think how crazy things would get here if people were findin SUBs like they can there....or if it was at all common knowledge that SUBBs can be found here in every other lawn sometimes.....

You definately have Weraroa novaezelandiae ( as opposed to the other species)

Exceptional and clear pics / close ups of those shrooms...


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: shroominDole]
    #5791429 - 06/26/06 02:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hehehe, I wanna move to NZ!!
Instead I get to go to Oceanside -_-


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: CureCat]
    #5791452 - 06/26/06 02:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I only have a few so will give them a go in a day or two. There seems to be more and more documentation on here of people taking them. I think so long as I only take a few and then go from there I should be OK.

Thanks for the comments on the pics. They managed to capture the bluing fairly well.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: montmont]
    #5791551 - 06/26/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I definately think they are relativley safe - noone reports physical sickness/vomiting as you would expect with a non edible mushroom. I think these are actually quite commonly consumed, its just that noone has reported it on here.

A lot of second hand stories about them.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Feelers]
    #5791573 - 06/26/06 03:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Apparently no subs in our rainforest , i don't believe it i live pretty much right bang smack on the edge of the Waitakeres on the west front, at the beach. Apparently P.Makarorae might be around if no subs? what do you fellas think about the denseness of the bush being scourable, how far would one have to look, or more so how many times.... i hear in tea tree brush and stuff where they grow densely it seems to be so wet and so perfect for them. Cant do any harm looking. For me anyhow, im slack! Those pouches are interesting, i have a feeling in my gut they grow everywhere around here too... Its the beaches i tell you, the beaches!


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    #5791676 - 06/26/06 05:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

More likely to find Psilocybe aucklandii although I have found Ps subaeruginosa in a bark garden on the way to Piha!
Also, according to Johnston and Buchanan's work Ps makarorae is only documented from Bay of plenty, Westland, Otago Lakes and Dunedin.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5791763 - 06/26/06 07:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well a little birdy tried to tell me otherwise a local thought he'd once seen what resembled PS makarorae PM'ged me...
hopefully he's right. cant help lbut look... Aucklandaii...???
They love dense wet pine forest though and there is no pine in the waitakere ranges!!!, inski so i think that rules that out. if i wanted them i could go and get some from far away spots...
but i don't like them so much. long way to go too. Ive seen where they grow and i doubt they'd be in the waitakere ranges unless they love pig droppings , or got under a random pine... or similar substrate.
i thought it was more the pine substrate they liked?
If in Australia they are cleaning up subs in areas of Eucalyptus forest or whatever it is, wouldn't it be logical to assume that there would be areas of bush here in the waitakere s with similar potential substrate and or ideal conditions that could accommodate the wonderful little beasts!
Got to be One out there... Hunt on tomorrow , ill post results.
amped to get some nice little Sub picks on too.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: ]
    #5794955 - 06/27/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hi :cool:
You should do a search, New Zealand journal of botany, find the year 1995 then find the document, The genus Psilocybe (Agaricales) in New Zealand. Download the pdf and do some reading!
I have also found specimens that are very similar to Ps makarorae but after much research I'm sure they're Ps caerulipes.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5794982 - 06/27/06 06:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)
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Here's the link, and above is the file itself, although I think the PDF is open to public viewing.
http://www.rsnz.org/publish/nzjb/1995/82.pdf


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Feelers]
    #5797392 - 06/27/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thats it! thanks Feelers.
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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5852337 - 07/12/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The W. novaezelandiae is very popular in Wellington. Thats what I know to be NZ's blue meanie. Heaps of people are weary of taking it cause its


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5852359 - 07/12/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

why the hell wont it post my full reply????


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: inski]
    #5852390 - 07/12/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The W. novaezelandiae is very popular in Wellington. Thats what I know to be NZ's blue meanie. Heaps of people are weary of taking it cause its "ugly" which i think is pretty funny and pathetic. I can assure you they look better in wellington very neat, tidy with nice form, texture and colour (ill see if i can get some pics up). Theyve been used for years down here and im surprised at how little people know about them.

The only setback is finding them. Very few times i have found them growing where you can see them. The best places to look for these would be to dig under grass/leaves to get to rotten wood etc. Or maybe thats just to get the good ones. And nearly everytime ive found W. Erythrocephala growing nearby. Thats helped me out a few times in discovering new patches.


Oh and for people who think that P. Aucklandii only grows in the auckland area = not true. I have found them in Wellington on my many many expeditions. Although not many maybe 1 or 2 at a time. But their there.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: damo_shmamo]
    #5853683 - 07/13/06 02:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

really? How did u ID them?


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5853824 - 07/13/06 05:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Researched as much I can. As far as I know there arent many (if any) that quite look like aucklandii when it starts to decay and turn dark no? i could be mistaken. Although I havent consumed the ones that I have found I am pretty certain i have a correct id.

I have also heard of a few people who speculated they found aucklandii in the Wellington region but I cant confirm that


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: damo_shmamo]
    #5863585 - 07/15/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5596801/an/0/page/0

trip report on these, for those who are still waiting for it (like i was)


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: damo_shmamo]
    #5871099 - 07/17/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the cystidia shape is quite different to subaeruginosa - shaped more long and skinny without the flask-shaped ones you get with subs.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Feelers]
    #6632756 - 03/03/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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noone reports physical sickness/vomiting as you would expect frmo a non-edible




You can get mushroom poisoning and not even have it metabolize for a day- as you poop out your intestines into yuor new calostomy bag. Yeah I spell wonderful toonite.

WHAT chemicals are inside that mushroom? This seems slightly crazy- I mean people in NZ munch these down "... the documentation says..." documentation? You mean some guys POV that ate some mushrooms - not even knowing whats inside?

Just seems kinda sloppy. But if you know your area and whats dangerous..


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Civ]
    #6633027 - 03/04/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The first few who tested them out, must have been foolish, however, I think enough people have tried them to acertain that they are not deadly poisonous. NOW, there is little to know research and documentation done on this species, so it is possible that there are poisonous look-a-likes which are not yet known, OR perhaps a sub-species or regional variation is toxic, versus one which has been tried, and caused effects similar to that of Psilocybe species.

Recently Sporeworks made syringes available, and as these mushrooms are by far the most intrigueing actives to me, I am anxious to study them. I feel comfortable enough, that people i trust on this site have tried them, that i think i would try them if i get the chance.

You make good points. This species has only very recently been gaining interest and recreational use, and caution is always advised when ingesting new mushroom species. If someone was unsure of whether or not to try them, i would certainly not pressure them, as i have no proof to settle their fears. And, before trying them myself, I would like to speak with those members who have tried these pouch fungi themselves.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: CureCat]
    #6897242 - 05/10/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Well, Ross Beever's study demonstrate conclusively (as if there ever was any doubt) that this close relative on P. cyanescens contains 4-OH-DMT and its phosphate ester. However, he did not evaluate the toxicology of the species or search for new alkaloids, as far as I can tell. Of course, the heroic amounts of the Weraroa NZ consumed seasonally by the psy-trance ferals does lend one to conclude that they aren't THAT toxic. However, the species does induce a characteristic "wobbly-eye" vision, where it becomes impossible to focus the eyes. This effect is present even when the material has become otherwise inert due to longterm storage or heavily oxidised. I find this slightly worrying, as it could very well be a symptom of toxicity. The effect do, however, appear to be fully reversible. It is possible that it could be caused by a heretofore unexplored (and rather uninteresting?) tryptamine...


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Amarix]
    #8532260 - 06/17/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hey sorry to dig up an old thread but i have been taking these shrooms for years got introduced tho them in 99 .
i'm just wondering if they have been properly analized as i have realized every time i took these shrooms i the double vision you guys are talking about you just can't see straight no matter how hard you try also it causes you to get the "crying laugh" which is hard to explain but basically your laughing your ass off but people looking at your would think your in utter terror as they seem to paralise your face and all your muscles pull down like your crying i was always told it was strickning is this true.

Also on a healthy dose of 50 fresh shrooms i went blind for must of been 30 mins i literally couldn't see my hand in front of my face but didn't care as the shrooms tend to wrap you in cotton wool as such


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: hippie56]
    #8626722 - 07/12/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'd love to see some fresh insites into this species. Has no one yet done the toxicology in the past 2 years? Not even Workman?

Like hippie56, I've done these more than anything else. They are all I find locally. Last trip, I experienced a little bit of the eye thing. Each trying to look in different directions, finding it hard to focus. But that was the first time.

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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Hence]
    #8627540 - 07/12/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

ive gotten all that from conventional shrooms. 
double vision is nothing, I've gotten kaleidoscopic fractal reconfigurations of all peripheral imagery.  So much so that perspective  became completely unrecognizable. yet, vision itself did not blur, the fractured reality is completely in focus, probably more so than usual.
but then it tends to be a conglomerate of the repediate manifestation of a single image amalgamated into a swirling sea of aspect-ratio warped afterimages, the boundary between this and the "self" completely obscured.
Can't walk, cant act sane, about the only thing you CAN do is see. but what you see makes no practical sense.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Hence]
    #8627561 - 07/12/08 11:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Of course he has
a simple search found this in seconds

Outdoor cultivation: Weraroa pouch fungus (updated with microscopy pics)
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6144206


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6897241 (SOLD OUT)
Weraroa novea-zelandiae : New Zealand Hallucinogenic Pouch Fungus spore syringes now available


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: implee]
    #9154273 - 10/29/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: Luber]
    #9154448 - 10/29/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, Peter wrote that article for the Mycena News.  It is a good article.

Can you please not post linking to your other post full of links?  Maybe just quote your other post next time.


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: CureCat]
    #14363453 - 04/27/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

um rather over catious there buddy,

in new zeland these have been taken "recreationally" for a long long time, and are exelent. i would advise any one to try!

they are very good. they are just not known outside of nz as other species elsewhere  arnt "active".
also they are very very easy to recognise. as they look like alien sperm bubbles!!!!
i understand cation, however, no need to terrify folk! theres a good chap

http://sporeworks.com/Weraroa-novea-zelandiae-New-Zealand-Hallucinogenic-Pouch-Fungus-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html


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    #14363477 - 04/27/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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gnowave777 said:
um rather over catious there buddy,





um you're bumping a two year old thread there buddy


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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: gnowave777]
    #14363587 - 04/27/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the new zealand weraroa is well worth a shot, fairly easy to identify, as it looks like an alien translucent sperm bubble.
they aint very large and take effect after just one or two are ingested.
though at that dosage they have a mild pleasant disassociative effect.
after having more than four! WOW! after as few as 15 minutes you begin to trance rapidly,  and they take you "under",  movement isnt easy or even wanted, and visually swirly, jupiter like smoke forms, and very disassociative, though after a while as you re-enter into more formed thoughts its fairly revelatary. not "useful" in the usual psychedelic sense, but very very good. last a few good hours.
taste fairly earthy and woody. and in the ground they last for a long time until eaten by insects! so thats handy.
i would LOVE if i could get access to spores and advice on best way to make a "kit" as i would like a supply of these. though the initial "peak" you seem to be fairly incapacitated, it had fairly opium like creativity bursts towards the glide back to earth.
very very good. and a nice change.

http://sporeworks.com/Weraroa-novea-zelandiae-New-Zealand-Hallucinogenic-Pouch-Fungus-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html





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Re: Weraroa Pouch Fungus from NZ!? [Re: groople]
    #14363626 - 04/27/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

youch! hope thats not a problem. but i thought as i had a lot o experience with those particular shrooms the sharing may have been helpful for anyone googling.
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