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Zen Peddler


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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: inski]
#5580254 - 05/02/06 03:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I cant comment on the pouch fungi but i can say that those cystidia are pretty normal subaeruginosa cystidia - they range from mucronate ventricose to lageniform or bowling pin shape. Those are more like eucalypta than australiana but the differences are slight and they are synonymous with subaeruginosa.
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#8489982 - 06/05/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey ive also come across a fairley large patch of mushrooms that match the ones that inski has come across , now i was wondering if they are actually magic and what species they are? i ve been unable to decipher the mycologist lingo to really understand whats going on with these species?
are they safe to trip from?
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: inski]
#10618669 - 07/04/09 12:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi there, yea these are magic mushrooms, me and my friends ate the exact same ones 2 years ago in school, we found them in the woodchip gardens in the shade. dosage: like 3 medium size ones crazy trip saw my english teacher with horns and i was freaking out in class. Btw i am 19(18+)
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: shortyshroomer]
#10620016 - 07/04/09 10:02 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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to OpiumCats post some pictures
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jacksirius
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
#11286364 - 10/20/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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thought id post up on here for you guys to check out.



theres more in my gallery, ive also got more amateur images from earlier in the season, any question let me know.
Edited by jacksirius (10/27/09 06:20 AM)
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mycot
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: jacksirius]
#11297138 - 10/22/09 01:00 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
jacksirius said: theres more in my gallery, ive also got more amateur images from earlier in the season, any comments for discussion or question let me know.
So far in this thread there have been several different shroom species depicted. Just so I can get some bearings a first question might be, what the hell are these? Great pics by the way.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: mycot]
#11299292 - 10/22/09 12:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most of the mushooms in this thread are an unnamed species of Psilocybe. Inski made a thread about them with the title rhizomorphs and now everyone calls them that for lack of a better name.
There is also some Weraroa novaezelandiae.
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mycot
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11309872 - 10/24/09 02:21 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd come to the same conclusions as you state in your post Alan. I was just asking about the latest entry/pics which appear to be different to anything earlier in the thread.
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jacksirius
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: mycot]
#11310367 - 10/24/09 06:36 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey mycot, ill try to clear up any confusion, sorry for my lack of mycology lingo:) the specimens i collected in the wild were all this species p. rhizomorph, it is only now that i have them growing artificially that they are starting to look different... i created 5 terriums at zero cost, i required, 2 plastic containers, two plastic bottles, a polystyrene chilly bin, some scissors, a plastic bag, tape and some spores.
i collected some mycelium from 2 of the locations where this species was fruiting and placed this in my terrium, i then transplanted some of the best specimens from the wild into these environments, most of these transplants died but i really just wanted to transfer the stem butts. the first flush was more of the typical shape, and there were only about 6 mushrooms that made it to maturity but then i have had the last 2 flushes in 2 isolated containers with these mushrooms....?? they were grown from mushrooms that originally looked very similar to inskis pics, all i can think is that they have mutated over the season and now look almost nothing like the original ones from the wild, or the isolate that inski grew. i do have various specimens that look like inskis, they are in smaller containers, and are only growing from either one of the mycelium types not the mix, which makes me wonder. they are now growing alot bigger than the ones in the wild and are actually opening up as opposed to the original theory that thought this species had more closed gills, i think that was perhaps only true for those in the wild, as the last flush had immense amount of spore ejection, and this is what caused the darkish brown colour.
i thought perhaps the 2 different types of mycelium have created a more robust phenotype and that my selection of stem butts has helped this quick mutation. based on my observations in the field and my last 3 flushes in the terrium this mushroom has just changed significantly in colour, shape and size.
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Edited by jacksirius (10/27/09 06:31 AM)
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mycot
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: jacksirius]
#11321177 - 10/25/09 08:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for helping to clear up the confusion Jacksirius. They're amazing looking shrooms and excellent work on the grow. I hope we can get some resolution on whats really going on here. Good luck with everything.
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jacksirius
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: mycot]
#11321747 - 10/25/09 10:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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yea its quite a significant variation from the original specimens. all the mushrooms in my pics are from this season, and are all p.rhizomorph,
 this is my first grow from the transplant, see that lil bulbious thing, that lasted for about 2.5 months before those pins occured.
  they turned into these. this was my smaller grow kit and was only containing mycelium from one of the locations.
my larger kit first produced these specimens
 


after this i thought it was pretty much over for the season, i took my kit outside and left it in a cool dark place, didnt think much for afew weeks then thought id best check it... it was starting to pin heaps... id already been surprised when the gills upturned in the first flush but didnt really expect much different this time, and so yeah they grew alittle bigger like this
 
  id already been surprised with the colour variation from those in the wild but didnt think it was too much of a biggie cause all the pins look like these, and once i saw them ejecting spores im pretty convinced its caused by this, but still the whole mushroom looks different doesnt it? anyhow that stage is about where i think most rhizomorphs get to in the wild, the bark generally keeps them tightly packed and the bug seem to love them. so yeah they grew into these
 you can see these ones in the low quality image also


  those were the ones that look the most like the rhizomorph but if you look at some of the other angles at the other end of the box it hardly looks like inskis specimen, and it definately doesnt look like what i was picking in the wild

 heres one of my more typical rhizomorphs
 hope you guys like the pics its definitely an interesting variation. id prefer the wild ones with the pleated edge and albino look, i need to do more isolations any suggestions on cutting chunks of mycelium and grafting them would be appreciated.
Edited by jacksirius (10/25/09 11:03 PM)
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: jacksirius]
#11322042 - 10/25/09 11:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am pretty sure that they are all the same species and the different environmental factors while growing have brought about variations in the fruits.
This is really interesting and I am kicking myself for leaving NZ as their is so much work to be done on our lovely Weraroa...oops I mean Psilocybes.
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Re: ID for intensely bluing Psilocybe from NZ!!! [Re: karode13]
#11322315 - 10/26/09 12:56 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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