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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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The Seven Deadlies
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Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.

Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.

Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.


Chatting with someone about working to completely lick an old " do it yourselfer pride" and letting go to allow grace to take over and becoming more comfortable in the zone of grace, I got to thinking about all of the seven deadlies.

I thought it might be interesting to post them all for any reader to review and examine, which ones they may be indulging in that may may be robbing them of more of their potential life.

I'd be interested to hear any stories relating to how you identified one as the root culprit holding you down and what you did to overcome it.

Any discussion on them would be interesting to look at.

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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my problems are with gluttony(drugs), and lust(who doesnt have this problem?).


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I believe that greed is the root of them all.

Lust: Desire of the Flesh
Gluttony: Desire of Excess
Envy: Desire of Possessions
Sloth: Desire of Avoidance
Pride: Desire of Greatness
Wrath: Desire of Revenge

They are all interrelated, all causal.

One is to have much less trouble combating them as a single entity, rather than isolating them and creating the illusion that they are all independent.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: spud]
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Nice observation/insight spud. You can even take greed down to a fear root of "lack beleifs that their is not enough to go around so hoard and take by any means when the gettings good."

The seven isolated I think helps for some people to recognize the derivatives of behaviors rooted in fear a little easier.

Thanks for sharing Blaze2. Lust seems to melt away when you start resonating and identifying more with your spirit self then your physical self. I just noticed that happen as a pleasant side effect when I started shifting more into spirit.

Gluttony, hmmmmm to bad that one didn't just drop away so easily. I definitely have ONE gluttonous vice that I drink in excess that I am physically addicted to not good for me, the dreaded Diet Dr. Pepper.:hellfire: I know I know how horrible that stuff is to the body and about aspartame. I'll work at shaking it this year. It's time.

I can't figure out what the fear root of that addiction to it is though. Water would suffice as a non caloric beverage. There's something about the sweetness of it I'm hooked on. I don;t do candy and prefer staying trim and slim. Maybe I have some dumb root fear that believes there isn't enough sweetness. :lol:

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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sloth is probably my biggest problem.
and gluttony.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: leery11]
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Even though I dont follow the path from which this stems, I do agree that these are things to be avoided.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I haven't drank a drop of soda in over a year. Then again, I'm not a fan of sweets at all so it wasn't to difficult to cut it out of my diet.

Perhaps your body lacks the proper sugar intake, so the behavior is manifesting through the consumption of a sugarless (mostly) product, thus never satisfying the need of sugar?

Iced tea with lemonade or iced tea with honey make great sweet beverage alternatives.

Usually, if you are craving a certain food group it is because you need some of the basic elements of that group. Carbs, sugar, sodium, hydration, etc.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: blaze2]
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blaze2 said:
my problems are with gluttony(drugs), and lust(who doesnt have this problem?).


i don't. i overcame lust actually only a few weeks ago and it has not returned (feels so good to be without it by the way, like for the first time in years i can finally relax without being disturbed by sexual thoughts). originally i had thought lust would be the most difficult to overcome but instead i'm finding sloth far more difficult. i still put off doing homework far too often, in fact i am doing it right now. as soon as i do actually get my work done i find it an excuse to rest but my problem is once i get into "rest mode" i continually put off the entry back into work mode. can anyone offer any advice to help with this?

Edited by Deviate (02/24/06 08:13 PM)

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: spud]
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Interesting spud. Your analysis fits because, there is next to no sugar in my diet, except for what I get from some fruit or starch like in carrots.

Do our bodies need sugar or is it just a craving we pick up along the way because it tastes soooooooo good? Oh shit, wouldn't that fall into the lust category? :lol: Sugar makes me sleepy and feel sick. Honey sweetened tea was a good alternate suggestion. I'm going to give that a whirl! Thanks spud.

Fungusman, I'm not in line with the origin of the religious aspect of the seven deadlies myself, however, they do seem to work against our best interests for experiencing general good well being in life.

Deviate, thats a hard one. I would say 9 out of ten people shift into sloth mode when faced with an activity they just do not enjoy.

The spirit is all about joyful being and when you put into a suck task, it high tails it out of dodge and we are left without our vital energy source and become sloth like.

If anything, when we catch ourselves slothing it, it should be a sign to us that we are either doing or avoiding something not in line with our spirits joy.

Sometimes we have to like school work in subjects we have no personal interest in or in my case, the laundry is my nemesis that turns me into a sloth. All that time spent sorting, loading unloading, folding, ironing sorting, hanging just to see the same items crumpled up back in the hamper, repeat , repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. It's a no wonder my spirit high tails out on me when faced with 3 loads every 4 days.

It's probably thinking, "you stupid humans, when are you going to live in the tropics free and naked already and screw formal acedemia, life is your school , go live the lessons exploring and dicovering what interests you." :lol:

I wish I had an answer for you deviate. Make sure your school work will land you in a job you really enjoy. Perhaps use thoughts of that as some motivation incentive to get through it.

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Sloth is really tricky. I agree that most of the time our spirits are sensing this fundamental desire to live free and naked and not do silly work.

But yet I have come to realize that work is vital. If I never had anything to work on, I would be miserable. So theres some sort of line there...you should recognize that work is neccesary to create anything beautiful and meaningful, but you should also recognize that a lot of the work that the system puts pressure on you to do is totally pointless and just takes away precious time that you have on this earth.

Adults need work and play just as much as kids do. Both are vital.


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Society in every form is a blessing,
but government at its best is but a necessary evil 
- Thomas Paine

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I am guilty of all seven, but it really doesn't bother me.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I used to think it was bullshit that lust was one of them, but I've come to see the sense in it. It's not that having sexual desires is wrong, but a life of hedonistic debauchery distracts one from God, and is ultimately unfulfilling. It causes one to "miss the mark"(sin) of what is truly important in life. I think the same can be said for all the others.


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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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In the last few weeks I've been going through a spiritual crisis. I was really attuned to the Seven Deadlies. My script was that we are all fallen angels, who have decided one way or another to move from the perfect grace and love that is God into separateness that is our Ego (Pride). All the suffering (fear, anxieties, grief, pain, etc.) we experience is rooted into this illusion of being separate from each other and from God.

More humble we are the closer we are to our true nature. More pride we put in ourselves and our Ego's the more we distance ourselves from God. Since our true nature is nothing but Love, Life tries to show us that through experiences we may interpreted as suffering. If one has hugely inflated Ego he identifies with as his true self, he will suffer when Life humiliates him and brakes him down. But the higher purpose of this suffering is to show the individual that he is not his Ego, but something much more. If one can let go and allow that to happen he will eventually realize that.

Stanislav Grof in his transpersonal psychology works has described this process really well. Then again, so did the Bible and other spiritual texts.

I feel it is wise to live with Seven Deadlies in mind and structure one's life accordingly.


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"Who are you who live in all these many forms? You're death that captures all. You too are the source of all that's gonna be born. You're glory, mercy, peace, truth. You give calm a spirit, understanding, courage, the contented heart."

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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  I have a small framed up copy of Hieronymus Bosch's 'The Seven Deadly Sins' hanging to the left of my votive table at home - as a reminder of attachments (thought I'd include this 'cause you said you liked these personal descriptions  :smile:) This Catholic 'mandala' reminds me of the Tibetan Buddhist Wheel of life which has the Pig, Snake and Rooster in the center, representing ignorance, lust and pride (in some translations). The four corners in Bosch's work show scenes of death, Heaven, Judgement and Hell. Christ is the Center of a large 'eye' with the inscription "Cave, cave, Dominus videt." - "Beware, Beware, God sees you."

It is interesting that the Western Catholic Church said that Lucifer and his angels fell from Blessedness due to Pride, and the Eastern Orthodox Church claimed that the sin was Lust (the Watchers or Fallen Angels in the Books of Enoch lusted after mortal woman, copulated with them and produced "giants," according to Genesis).

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Jiggy, yes, sugar is still the prime energy-supporter for our body (fast energy, citric acid cycle). After that there comes fat (slow energy, fat acid cycle). Proteins have almost no energy-value at all.

And to thread, what could I say ? I have a story for every of these deadlies, as, I think, everyone has :wink: :heart:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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i am guilty of all 7 in some form or another. but the two for me that i have real issues with are anger and pride. this world pisses me off, but not as much as i piss myself off. im really hard on myself, always expecting better. i am always struggling to live up to my own expectations.


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  Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM) 

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: wrestler_az]
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I believe that when you drink diet pop, your body "thinks" that it has an excess of sugar so it starts burning using more energy.  Since you drank sugarless pop, you actually didn't get any sugar, so your body detects low levels of sugars and wants more (craving), so you keep drinking it even when you shouldn't really want any.  I read this in a disinformation book, but I don't know if it pertains to aspartame.  I'm sure some of my terminology is off, so don't take this as fact.  Something to think about though.
:thumbup:


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  Moderation is key 

  "There is no god higher than truth." 


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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: D4NK]
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Sugarless sugar doesn't make your body think it's consuming real sugar. If it did, every diabetic would be in deep shit :lol:

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: Silversoul]
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Paradigm said:
I used to think it was bullshit that lust was one of them


I still do, though I don't care at all about how the Bible says I should live, so I'm not losing any sleep over it.

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Re: The Seven Deadlies [Re: it stars saddam]
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Redstorm said:
I am guilty of all seven, but it really doesn't bother me.


itstarssaddam said:
I still do, though I don't care at all about how the Bible says I should live, so I'm not losing any sleep over it.


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