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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: MOTH]
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Exactly. The rules as they are layed out are fine. The problem is that one of the moderators in that forum actively witch hunts through the threads trying at all costs to call something a "mockery"  of the forum.

This over-enthusiasm is ruining the forum for the people on the targeted list. ((the ones believed to be the witches, (read skeptics))

So certain personal  beliefs and even individuals are being excluded from the forum unrightfully. This is the actual mockery of the forum which is in fact occuring, and it's being done by a moderator of all people, IN A FORUM DEDICATED TO BEING A SAFE PLACE TO DISCUSS YOUR BELIEFS!!!

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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I think the problem with the new forum is the rules itself. People should be able to post secularist or logic-driven ideas as long as they do it in their own thread. If is unfair to give the mystical and paranormal people their own forum to discuss without debate and not do the same for those who are not of that grain.

I think anyone should be able to post whatever they want in that forum as long as it represents their beliefs. As long as their beliefs are not argued in other threads, this would be the best way to do it.

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Redstorm]
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It's not like there isn't a forum to post that stuff in, that's what the P and S forum is for, maybe I would agree with you if this was the only forum that covers spirituality, but there are two, so go post secular, logical, skeptical ideas in P and S.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: gdman]
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What if they don't want their philosophical idea debated or challenged?

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: gdman]
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Yes. it should be the mood of the forum that is different like elimy said. Not for the mods to try and interpret what the difference between a religious and a spiritual belief is etc. etc. You can't possibly do that with any degree of sanityand trying to do that has lead us all here to where we are now mucking up Ythan's thread.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: gdman]
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I'm in tears right now... YOU DON'T GET IT!

Here's a post I made in the NEW forum.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4888991

Cervantes said:
Freaking out squares, is a HIPPIE SACRAMENT!

See title,

I find such acts spiritual, and one of the things that sets my faith apart from Christianity.

I grew up in Utah, and started to smoke, to FREAK OUT the Mormons.

It is a HARD spiritual practice to explain, even to The Shroomery Staff... as it IS practically trolling... but it is a SPIRITUAL PRACTICE... a long standing Hippie Ritual... one I hold dear, and I suspect other hippies can relate to my feelings.

FREAK OUT THE SQUARES!

Thoughts?



/me does his best to impersonate Homer Simpson, dawns a jester hat, cranks the car stereo and sings along.... "UPTOWN GIRL... SHE'S BEEN LIVIN' IN HER UPTOWN WORLD..."


Then I went to work... came home... and saw this:

Quote:
From: Wiccan_Seeker
This is just a courtesy notice that your thread "Freaking out squares, is a HIPPIE SACRAMENT!" has been moved. You can now find it here.

Reason for move: If this is part of your spirituality it belongs in the spirituality forum. But it looks like a provocation thread to me. Mysticism, Religion or the Paranormal, this thread is none and it attracts only the ones Fighting The Good Fight(TM) with you.



And then, this:

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From: Phred
This is just a courtesy notice that your thread "Freaking out squares, is a HIPPIE SACRAMENT!" has been moved. You can now find it here.

Reason for move: Nothing to do with philosophy or spirituality. Off to The Pub with it.


Guys, this is CRUEL.

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MY SPIRITUALITY?????????

I was telling THE TRUTH!

I am in tears, I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO LET DOWN BY THIS COMMUNITY IN MY LIFE! I'm a FUCKING HIPPIE. I BELIEVE IN IT. I created the TRIPPER'S FAQ, based on MY SPIRITUALITY. Good enough for a FAQ, but not enough for the SPIRITUAL FORUM, where MY BELIEFS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED. If I said, "FUCK YOU" I'd be banned, but you'd better fucking believe I considered it. It is HOW I FEEL.

LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE DOING!

Just FIX the PROBLEM!

I AM SERIOUS!

STOP BAITING ME INTO SAYING SOMETHING I'LL REGRET!

I know DAMN WELL which forum I posted in. the ONE that PROTECTS my BELIEFS. I was denied by BOTH FORUMS. WTF?

I want MY SPIRITUALITY treated the SAME as EVERYONE ELSE'S.

If that is provocation... I'm at a loss.

WTF?

WTF?

WTF?

Think I'm PISSED?

You'd be fucking right ON THE MARK.

Before ANYONE tells me to CALM DOWN, FIX THIS FUCKING PROBLEM!

Now, you're treating MY SPIRITUALITY with BIAS.

I am dead serious.

Fix this problem. Fix it NOW. Don't fuck with me any more.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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Yeah, I agree. get that valium tho :thumbup:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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I'll PM you my Addy. :tongue:

I could use one or four.

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Cervantes said:

The Staff has treated us with BIAS, while they claim to, "Protect Others" from BIAS!?

Fix it!

Stop the BIAS.

Admit you fucked up.

Clear Swami and Paradigm's record.

Promise not to do it again.

Follow Ythan's words to the LETTER.

Then, once this is fixed, give me my job back.




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Edited by Rose (11/04/05 12:28 AM)

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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Sorry, all I got's erb. :lol:

I'm afraid to go in that forum.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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I gots herb too... and now that I've smoked some, I've calmed a bit.

Thanks Shroomism for returning the thread.

That means a LOT to me.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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Good, and good that your thread was moved back. I posted in it.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Ythan]
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As pissed as I am abut the reasons my thread was initially moved... I am sorta' happy it happened.

It does put the BIAS I am talking about in THE SPOTLIGHT.

Seriously, What The Fuck is going on, when THAT thread, was MOVED by TWO MODS who have "Supposedly" been READING what I am saying in here?

The FIRST fucking time I exercised my spirituality, by starting a new thread, in there, the thread was moved.

Once moved into P&S, the LIBERAL of the two Spirituality forums, it was moved again because it was, "NOT SPIRITUAL" ENOUGH!?! That offends me to my SPIRITUAL core.

Was this done so people could call me a DRAMA QUEEN, when I complained... to start my trail towards UNJUST BANS?

Would you guys REALLY rather send me away, than admit your past BIAS?

Can SOMEBODY, ANYBODY please fix this BIAS? Please somebody up top say something NEW. This is getting ridiculous.

The thread was moved back, GREAT.

Now, I would like to see The Staff address and fix, WHY the thread had to be moved in the first place. I am running out of positive/neutral ways to express my opinion of Staff intelligence. This is EXACTLY the SAME issue I was TRYING TO FIX, when I STEPPED DOWN.

Don't fucking squash me like a bug... just 'cause you can.

THIS POINT SHOULDN'T TAKE MONTHS, and ME STEPPING DOWN AS A MOD, TO MAKE!

YTHAN? THOR? SEUSS? Anybody other than GEO?

You can either fix it, or keep doing what you do: Pretend PUBLICLY noting is wrong, and PERSECUTE those who speak against the BIAS!

Please.

Say you fucked up, promise to stop the bias. Lift Swami's bans, clear Paradigm's record, reinstate me as a MOD. Problem FIXED.

or...

Do nothing... and suffer YEARS OF DRAMA, and keep telling yourself the members you CRUSH, are the BAD GUYS.

Which option is better? The answer is NOT hard for me to see.

If you want me to get where YOU ARE COMING FROM, please, a good start would be to STOP PUNISHING PEOPLE LIKE ME, FOR BREAKING NO RULES.

Let's start there, shall we?

It is like some of you Staffers think I'm lying, kidding, NOT SERIOUS. Do you THINK I mean the OPPOSITE OF EVERYTHING I have said?

I say what I MEAN. I'm a simple read. Don't add TOO mush subtext. What you see, is what you get. If I say I believe something, I do.


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Edited by Rose (11/04/05 02:33 AM)

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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Quote:
Then, once this is fixed, give me my job back.


Where are the all capital letters? Shouldn't that read
"Then, once this is fixed, GIVE ME MY JOB BACK!"

Quote:
Fix this problem. Fix it NOW. Don't fuck with me any more.


:poke:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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The caps are stretegically picked...

... at RANDOM.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
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*strategically.

Los Molinos!  Son mis esposas y mis chicas y mis brujas.  :frown:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: gdman]
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gdman said:
It's not like there isn't a forum to post that stuff in, that's what the P and S forum is for, maybe I would agree with you if this was the only forum that covers spirituality, but there are two, so go post secular, logical, skeptical ideas in P and S.


I'm sure theres a forum for everything, but do you honestly believe that cartoons belong in MS&P forum any more than cervantes post?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4891830/an/0/page/0


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Good question.


I imagine Pris, there is no problem with THAT post, because it was made with the RIGHT intentions... :wink:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
do you honestly believe that cartoons belong in MS&P forum any more than cervantes post?


As the record shows, somebody put the futurama thread back after I moved it :wink:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Asante]
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If THAT had been MY post... I'd be SO pissed at you!

:tongue:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: geokills]
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Geo, I've seen you write many things, public and some private. Your posts in this thread are truly disappointing to me.

Attitudes and reasoning like this are why my participation at this site has dropped to almost nothing.


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