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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
    #4884276 - 11/02/05 05:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ thats how i get here its in my favorites You should update your bookmark to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ yea, wtf!  i'm not talkin' about the Main Index  i'm talkin' about the MAIN.. index.  where it lists the most recent 5 posts or so.  it's been displayin' the same ones for days now.  i think someone needs to fix this problem.  i don't care about the main index of the BB showing the amount of new threads/posts.. .but the MAIN index.html of the shroomery should list the recently posted posts... 'cause otherwise, why do i have http://www.shroomery.org/index.html as my main page?  :tongue:
  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat=  There is something similar what you regard already built in in the board software.

If you look at the bottom of the main index.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat=

you will see

View recent messages
Past 24 hours
Past 48 hours
Past 7 days  Not if you have to type them in.

I type in
shroomery.org/forums

you type in shroomery.org/forums/

Which is shorter? :wink:  Oh look theres other forums click me :smile:  I was looking around and noticed that the bottom of  the main index page it says there are no birthdays today. Yet if you click on the  calendar link and then on  January 23 2004 it shows that it is Grovesk8ters Bday.

Just thought it was courious and perhaps an error.Anno posted how to edit the host file at www.*************.org but the post was promptly deleted by an admin.

I can only remember how to edit the file in XP, perhaps Anno or someone else can help with the other operating systems.

In Windows XP go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and then open notepad. Drag and drop the hosts file into notepad and you should see something like this:

# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
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# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
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# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
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#      102.54.94.97    rhino.acme.com          # source server
#      38.25.63.10    x.acme.com              # x client host

127.0.0.1      localhost

Add to the bottom line of text 69.28.174.165 www.shroomery.org and click save.

Access the shroomery by the following link: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/I fixed this, before when I typed in: www.shroomery.org/forums
i would get to the main page where I wasn't logged in... but if I clicked on any link, I would be logged in... quite annoying.

The problem was that /index.php was redirecting to: ubbthreads.php instead of http://www.shroomery.org/forums/
so my browser for some reason went to:
http://shroomery.org/forums/ instead of www.shroomery...

now it's fixedPris you work here
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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: geokills]
    #4884381 - 11/02/05 06:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It would be nice if my support tickets were answered, but apparently, according to you, they must have gotten lost. So that doesn't seem to be working out so well.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
    #4884391 - 11/02/05 06:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think you need a Valium, though I wholeheartedly support what has been said concerning the mystcal mystery forum.

(It's a mystery what you can post there)


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: geokills]
    #4884423 - 11/02/05 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

BTW, the reason us users are "hammering" our opinion over and over is because YOU'RE NOT LISTENING! It really is frustrating to see that the administration doesn't really care about our concerns.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Silversoul]
    #4884552 - 11/02/05 06:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Silversoul]
    #4885382 - 11/02/05 09:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Neither you nor Cervantes seem to grasp the difference between "listening to" and "agreeing with".

Geo is both listening and responding to your (Cervantes and you, that is) repetitive points. Over and over and over. There may be someone in this exchange who's not listening, but it isn't Geokills.





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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Phred]
    #4885494 - 11/02/05 10:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, nature will take its course and the forum will either become popular or remain a constant source of bickering and complaint.

If it remains a source of grief I'm sure the admin will change something. I cant see how it wont, it's a virtual witchhunt forum and I've pretty much decided to stay out of there for the time being.

I think I might be one of the ones that cant even fart in there without getting into trouble, and I'd rather just stay out of the madhouse forum rather than be banned.

I have tried to follow the rules in there, but alas I just cant figure out how to do it. Oh well, there's always the other reasonably run forums to go to!


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: geokills]
    #4885519 - 11/02/05 10:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

For example, if talking about halloween and ghosts, spirits etc. etc. isn't allowed there, I DON'T KNOW WHAT POSSIBLY IS???

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4879408/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #4885527 - 11/02/05 10:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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it's a virtual witchhunt forum and I've pretty much decided to stay out of there for the time being.

I think I might be one of the ones that cant even fart in there without getting into trouble, and I'd rather just stay out of the madhouse forum rather than be banned.





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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Asante]
    #4885709 - 11/02/05 10:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, you're amazing too.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Phred]
    #4886050 - 11/03/05 12:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Neither you nor Cervantes seem to grasp the difference between "listening to" and "agreeing with".

Geo is both listening and responding to your (Cervantes and you, that is) repetitive points. Over and over and over. There may be someone in this exchange who's not listening, but it isn't Geokills.


Phred




So far, Phred, geo's suggestions have been:

"Shut up, Go away, and, Agree to disagree."

He's changed his reasons for Swami's ban so many times, it is comical. Geo's locked or deleted EVERY OTHER THREAD WHICH HAS DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC. Even though I HAVE STARTED ONLY ONE THREAD ON THIS MATTER IN PUBLIC, and HAVE ONLY POSTED IN THE PROPER THREADS, he and several mods are framing me as a DRAMA QUEEN. I have broken NO rule, I have not gone into The Pub or OTD to raise a ruckus.... yet I'm framed as a DRAMA QUEEN. Pah!

YTHAN'S post is VASTLY different. He says such tactics should STOP. He says it should be your, "Top Priority".

I'm asking WHY the TWO stories, from THREE admins?

You don't seem to grasp this, Phred:

"Shut up, Go away, and, Agree to disagree..." ARE ALL THINGS YTHAN SAID SHOULD STOP!

I am asking for a NEW response, in LIGHT of YTHAN'S announcement. Geo has done NO SUCH THING.

I've yet to receive one NEW RESPONSE, in LIGHT of this thread... well Seuss, but again, his words were VASTLY different than geo's... but geo's doing ALL THE TALKING. Between Ythan's words, Seuss's and geo's, is it any wonder I'm confused? THEY AREN'T SAYING THE SAME THING!

Swami, Paradigm, and me > Child Molesters, Murderers, and Racists

Why then are WE being mistreated for our BELIEFS... while the SLIME OF HUMANITY is protected, for THEIRS? Still waiting for THAT answer.

It is geo, who can stop this EASILY, by admitting I'm telling the truth about Swami's ban and also, Paridigm's warnings and ban, and THUS, lift the Staff WALL OF SILENCE. So you aren't ALL FORCED to STFU, QUIT or ECHO a BIASED policy.

LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.

ALL THIS, to avoid saying what we all know: You guys fucked up.

Big fuckin' deal.

Just FIX IT, so we can MOVE ON.

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: geokills]
    #4886697 - 11/03/05 02:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you Geo for moving my thread back where it belongs :thumbup:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #4886717 - 11/03/05 02:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That WAS cool. :thumbup:


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
    #4887916 - 11/03/05 12:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Cervantes, you have misread Ythan's comments. You have also misread Geokills's comments, but let's deal with them one at a time.

Ythan is not saying you can say whatever you want in whatever manner you want in whatever forum you want.

The Mysticism, Religion & the Paranormal forum has different rules on posting than does, for example, the Philosophy & Spirituality forum. For whatever reason, some people attempting to post in the MR&P forum have a different idea of what should be allowable as a post in that forum than do the moderators of the forum.

As Geokills has pointed out, in a situation where that occurs, it is the administrators who decide whose judgment is correct. It isn't public opinion, it isn't who writes the most numerous or the lengthiest and most repetitive and most capslock-intensive posts in the WA&F forum, it's whoever makes the most persuasive case to the administrators reviewing the case.

I say again, "listening to" is not synonymous with "agreeing with".

I've seen Geokills explaining the administrative position on this issue over and over and over again in this forum and I've seen his explanations sail directly over your head. Persistence is sometimes an admirable trait. This isn't one of those times.




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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Phred]
    #4888460 - 11/03/05 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Why DON'T we let every member post their beliefs in MR&P? 

Wasn't MR&P created to give *every member* a safe place to voice belief and phenomonon of faith?   

If Paradigm, Cervantes or even Swami need to express their beliefs then they should be welcomed in the MR&P forum provided they can follow the rules. 

MR*P was designed to be a *safe* place to express ones spiritual belief, particularly in the more 'dubious' elements of religion and the paranormal.  But users should understand that in posting there, they must maintain that level of comfort for other members. 

If you want to compare notes in a relaxed atmosphere, MR&P is for you.  If you wish to engage others in vigorous questioning, P&S may be a better fit.  Each forum has a different mood. 

And if members can use the forums as intended, then EVERY MEMBER should be given access and permitted to post without fear of bias. 

That includes MR&P. 

I have no idea WHAT happened to give Paradigm and Cervantes cause to feel unwelcome in that forum and I really don't care.  We need to make an effort to make sure that every belief is given space there.  That's what's important. 

The job of that forum is to give every member a chance to SAFELY (without rigorous questioning and without rancor) express his or her spritual views. 

If the mods can't help the forum do its job then maybe the mods need a new job.  If members cannot respect the rules and intention of MR&P, then they should be disallowed.  Otherwise, every belief is sacred in MR&P.  You can't pry beliefs open with a scalpel and rummage inside like in P&S, but handle them gently and with respect and you just might learn something valuable. 

As for mod bias, I believe most mods are willing to listen to the members in the forums they moderate.  I hope the mods will lighten up and give MR&P a chance to bloom with all its petals intact.  (i.e: lets give everyone room to express their spirituality). 

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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: MOTH]
    #4888701 - 11/03/05 03:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

EllemyshShade said:
Why DON'T we let every member post their beliefs in MR&P? 

Wasn't MR&P created to give *every member* a safe place to voice belief and phenomonon of faith?   

If Paradigm, Cervantes or even Swami need to express their beliefs then they should be welcomed in the MR&P forum provided they can follow the rules. 

MR*P was designed to be a *safe* place to express ones spiritual belief, particularly in the more 'dubious' elements of religion and the paranormal.  But users should understand that in posting there, they must maintain that level of comfort for other members. 

If you want to compare notes in a relaxed atmosphere, MR&P is for you.  If you wish to engage others in vigorous questioning, P&S may be a better fit.  Each forum has a different mood. 

And if members can use the forums as intended, then EVERY MEMBER should be given access and permitted to post without fear of bias. 

That includes MR&P. 

I have no idea WHAT happened to give Paradigm and Cervantes cause to feel unwelcome in that forum and I really don't care.  We need to make an effort to make sure that every belief is given space there.  That's what's important. 

The job of that forum is to give every member a chance to SAFELY (without rigorous questioning and without rancor) express his or her spritual views. 

If the mods can't help the forum do its job then maybe the mods need a new job.  If members cannot respect the rules and intention of MR&P, then they should be disallowed.  Otherwise, every belief is sacred in MR&P.  You can't pry beliefs open with a scalpel and rummage inside like in P&S, but handle them gently and with respect and you just might learn something valuable. 

As for mod bias, I believe most mods are willing to listen to the members in the forums they moderate.  I hope the mods will lighten up and give MR&P a chance to bloom with all its petals intact.  (i.e: lets give everyone room to express their spirituality). 

EvErYoNe.  :flowerchild:

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Wow, THANKS for saying that Ellemysh.

You hit the nail on the head... and you were more TACTFUL than I.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: MOTH]
    #4888712 - 11/03/05 03:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No kidding.

What is Swami or anyone else wanted to post something that did not fit the mterial for the new forum, but he did not want to be questioned or debated. He then has no where to post it.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
    #4888719 - 11/03/05 03:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I know Swami, Paradigm and I WANT to use the NEW forum... and HISTORY HAS SHOWN, WE OBEY THE RULES.

Not ONE of us has broken a rule, in the HISTORY of THAT forum.

By complaining about the BIAS, we are called, "DRAMA QUEENS", and "HATE MAGNETS" by the Staff, and... one by one, we are banned. Even though NOBODY in PUBLIC saw us break a SINGLE RULE.

I've worked my ASS off in MR&P making suggestions and doing my best to give it a SEPARATE identity from P&S. You better fucking believe I want to FEEL SAFE, AS I MAKE FUTURE CONTRIBUTIONS to THAT Forum. I helped MAKE it!

The Staff has treated us with BIAS, while they claim to, "Protect Others" from BIAS!?

Fix it!

Stop the BIAS.

Admit you fucked up.

Clear Swami and Paradigm's record.

Promise not to do it again.

Follow Ythan's words to the LETTER.

Then, once this is fixed, give me my job back.


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: Rose]
    #4888834 - 11/03/05 03:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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I know Swami, Paradigm and I WANT to use the NEW forum... and HISTORY HAS SHOWN, WE OBEY THE RULES.

Not ONE of us has broken a rule, in the HISTORY of THAT forum.




That is my point...it's unjust to deny anyone a chance to use it as long as they follow the forum rules.

I'm not clairvoyant and don't know for sure if certain members will follow the rules.

But we are doing an injustice not to them, but to ourselves if we don't give them the benefit of the doubt and allow them to particpate in this new venture, this new type of forum. If they are willing, we should allow them to speak among us, and with us.

As Captain Picard might say:

"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."


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Re: Declaration of Intention [Re: MOTH]
    #4888843 - 11/03/05 03:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't wait 'till 2,400 AD... when Capt. Piccard is FINALLY old enough to become a Shroomerite. :smile:


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