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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
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The problem is that your vitamin C is in nonacidic form (as mineral salts instead of free acid) and 1gr only "does" one fluid ounce tops.

Best is to use lemon juice, either fresh or supermarket juice.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Asante]
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For those that find your lemon trip markedly shorter, you can do what I did on my last trip to extend it. I took my normal dose and I took another 1g about 90 minutes later. It made my total trip last about as long as when I eat them. The come up for my redose was really cool as I was peaking already.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: ]
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i have read this entire thread and am amazed, my first trip will be tomorrow or the day after, would you recommend doing this for a first time? or just strait out chewing them.

also my friend suggested we chop them up and add them to yogurt, do you think this would make the effects hit slower and not as hard seeing as how dairy digests slow?


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: MrClam]
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I recommend you to not do it.

You have never tripped on mushrooms before, so in my view you better find out the "typical response" before you dive into this.

And try to weigh your dose.

No yoghurt! It will likely lessen or alter the impact of your mushrooms.
Personally I recommend you to take between 0.5-1.5gr, chew it up and slosh it away with water, or powder it, stir it into half a glass of OJ or apple juice and drink that with the grounds. That will give a typical response, the juice technique will make it hit a tad harder and taste better.

If you want to use this technique the I advise you to use 0.5gr and stir this into 1 fluid ounce (2 tablespoons) of lemon juice.

ALWAYS DO MUSHROOMS ONM AN EMPTY STOMACH.

Bon Voyage!


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Asante]
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well wouldnt 1gr of ascorbic acid taken with 1gr of cubensis show atleast some potentiation? here's a list of the ingredients.in order that they are on package.

Fructose
Ascorbic Acid
Carbonates of Potassium
Sodium
Magnesium & Calcium
Citric, Malic, and Tartaric Acids
Tapioca Starch
Glycine
Magnesium Hydroxide
Quercetin
Manganese Gluconate

anyways i'll try it with 4 oz of water and 1gr of powdered cubensis.
maybe it'll work maybe it wont. the test will tell, but it'll have to wait til my costa ricans finish :laugh:


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this is out of context but... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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Underhill you live in the OK too?
I'm a little north of Tulsa, in Owasso myself :smile:
good to meet another shroomer in the OK :wink:


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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: Grumbles420]
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Tomorrow I will be going to an aussie pink floyd show. Me, and 5 other friends are going to be experimenting with this. A good 6 experienced travelers oughta make this interesting. Ill be sure to take plenty of notes, and post my finding later in the night.

Wish me luck!

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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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I plan to trip again tomorrow with the lemon/shroom with a friend.  I am also going to wake and shroom for the first time ever lol.  I have waked and baked plenty, but never wake and shroom.  I should have a nice empty stomach at least :smile:

Yay for OK shroomers :smile:


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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: Underhillmaster]
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they should put this on mythbusters!!


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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: the_psychonaut]
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wake and shrooming is so much better than shrooming at night. Me and dimmy did this together a month or two ago and we had a blast. Make SURE TO GO OUTSIDE. go for a walk and just sit in the grass. good luck and have fun.


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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: hot48yearolds]
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Psilocybin is a prodrug that is converted into the pharmacologically active compound psilocin in the body by dephosphorylation. This chemical reaction takes place under strongly acidic conditions or enzymatically by phosphatases in the body.

sounds like lemon juice just converts it to psilocin quicker and it gets fast tracked through a persons system.

sorry if this has already been posted... there's alot of reading i'll have to get on before i'll know.

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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: Cowgold]
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underhillmaster (and everyone else!),

i'm excited by your own enthusiasm in this project and also that you brought an awareness to the shroomery community. however, this whole phenomenon you discovered (at least on your own) is nothing new in shroomer history. actually, i'm rather surprised that this awareness is only now getting out, at least here at the shroomery.... it is without a doubt the acidity that is responsible for what is happening.

i have an old hippie friend down in florida who picks regularly and has been shrooming with obscene doses for at least a quarter of a century. but, about a year ago (i only met him a couple years ago), he told me about his "special recipe" for converting psilocybin into psilocin prior to consumption. his recipe involves a few simple processes using water, heat, and vinegar (2-3ph). he makes a tea out of this concoction and told me of the same effects you and others here are mentioning--namely increased effects and rapid onset.

i just wanted to share my thoughts--this is all wonderful stuff. i'm very glad this thread and discussion exists. onward with the experimentation, as you can never stop discovering new intricacies.

peace.

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2.5g + 1.5oz Lemon Juice for 5min, + water & sugar = SHROOMADE! [Re: butterflydawn]
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# What liquid are you using? Lemon Juice (little yellow concentrate bottle)
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# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz) 1.3oz (shotglass+some)
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# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")
Consumed 7:45pm First Feelings: 8:00pm Feeling of peculiarness, something is not right but I am definitely not tripping. I can feel the acid in my stomach sort of buzzing, I know this is going to be fun, I cant wait to let my mind leave.
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# Time to onset of visual disturbance
.woa shit, 8:10, first visuals starting. Patterns of the CG football field in Madden 2006 are really starting to stick out. I run to my computer to document the first visual disturbance and everything is already starting to go. I think I have realized it too late, my computer speakers are breathing, I can feel the music pulse from their drivers. Ambient Psytrance fills the air, some Entheogenic sets the mood just right. Things are really coming on, but I will have to disappear for a bit.
# Time to peak (rough estimate) roughly 2 hours, so gone at this point, I ate the last 1.5g of the bag about 45 minutes after, right when it started to get intense. I never lost my motor functions, im an experienced tripper (about 25 trips) and have a strong, clear mind.
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# Time to first sign of diminishing effects About 4.5-5 hours. Diminishing effects does not mean its wearing off, no way, I still find myself taking long periods of time to correctly type words. The speakers are breathing with less intensity, the computer screen glows like a lamp. Shroomery colors are so pretty?
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# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects) 6-6.5hours this lasted way longer than I was told it would, maybe it is because I consumed the rest of the 8th at a later point, or perhaps because this was the first time consuming the fruits of my 1st time cultivation, BRF jars spawned to TennStud. Not sure what strain (forgot to label jars initially, oops) but this was an intense trip.
This is my new method of consumption! Onset comes much quicker and much smoother, the only stomach disruption I had was a slight feeling of the acid as it diffused throughout my stomach. The acid feeling began after 10 minutes of consumption, and went away before 20 minutes passed as the trip really started to kick up. This is quick, tasty (add water + sugar = lemonade), and most of all, more effective. Im not sure if it is 10x stronger, but I would say it is at least 3-5x, and that?s good enough for me! Thanks shroomery we have started a new trend in mushroom consumption hopefully!

Please also note if you take any other substances, specifically marijuana and whether or not your stomach is empty- This could pose a significant confound. [snyder] Smokd a lot of weed, various bong bowls throughout the trip, confined to my apartment living room in the November Cold, we watched movies, probed each others minds, and pondered what there is to be known. Weed was strongly involved in the trip, although I didn?t feel its affects as much as usual because of how strong the trip was.
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Please be warned that although there seems no reason for bodily concern you might end up tripping much harder than you ever did on a similar amount. If you want to take part in this experiment make sure to note all variables that you feel might be important. Theory is less important than systematic observations and independent verification at this point.


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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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I_was_the_walrus said:
Tomorrow I will be going to an aussie pink floyd show. Me, and 5 other friends are going to be experimenting with this. A good 6 experienced travelers oughta make this interesting. Ill be sure to take plenty of notes, and post my finding later in the night.

Wish me luck!


Results:

I didnt keep track of the times of what not, but heres the break down.

1 gram each (pan. cyan.) ground to a powder...in roughly 30 cc of squeezed fresh lemon.

I didnt partake, instead I went with 3 hits of the white blotter acid.

4 out of 5 experienced exactly what was predicted. I didnt tell them what to expect, I just told them "it was an experiment". They told me stories of tripping way harder than what was typical...big understatement.

All in all it was a very good experience for everybody. Everybody was beyond a level 5, which is not very typical (experienced travelers here).

From what I was told by 4 of my buddies "It feels like satan is possessing the floyd, and they're possessing me"


Ill be the first to admit it. When they played "The Great Gig In The Sky"...I cried. There, I said it....I wept a bit. And Ive never felt better.

Edited by I_was_the_walrus (11/12/05 04:04 AM)

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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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Well, I have a .8 leftover for a trip that didn't quite go as smoothly as had hoped (so I ended up not taking the last .8 just to be on the safe side) so I'm thinking of trying this lemon method myself. I'm not the most experienced tripper, but I've had a good 8 trips so far, so I'm not new either. Bit newer to solo tripping though (twice, once was on a VERY low dose, the other time was only 2g's). Would you recommend I try this solo? Or do you think I might want a sitter for this one? I really have no idea what to expect with this technique, I've done 6g's once, never anything more though.

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Re: this is out of context but... [Re: StickyWater]
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Its been over a year since I tripped on psilocybin, so I think I will try this soon. I already have a bunch of powdered shrooms in capsules, and I will pick up a bunch of lemons. I will squeeze the juice by hand and use around 6g of powder. The only reason I am going to do 6g's is because the last time I did the capsules I did 4g's worth and only had a level 1 trip. I dont know what made them weak, but they are.

Thanks for the great new way to consume psilocybin!!
:jester:


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Drummer]
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how exactly do you get the shrooms to a powder form, i may be over thinking this situation, just grind it up right?
i'm tryin it!

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: TheKingofLame]
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Coffe grinder! works great.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Psiledehysp]
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WOWIE!


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