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InvisibleSwami
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Lethal Injection and Hygiene
    #3960476 - 03/23/05 05:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

What is up with swabbing a death row inmate's arm with alcohol (to prevent infection) before administering a lethal dose of potassium cyanide?

I am frequently amazed at our society's insanities.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Swami]
    #3960507 - 03/23/05 05:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:lol: Thats quite an amusing twist to an otherwise serious matter.

The death penalty should be eradicated, the criminals should be put to good use, made to do hard manual labour for the rest of thier lives, that'll work out some of thier negative karma as well as provide a useful service to society.

But its all this biblical rubbish about an eye for an eye thats been utilized by the government. If God wrote that (which is seriously doubt) then he must love war, violence and revenge. :frown:


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: egghead1]
    #3960530 - 03/23/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"The death penalty should be eradicated, the criminals should be put to good use, made to do hard manual labour for the rest of thier lives, that'll work out some of thier negative karma as well as provide a useful service to society."

I like this idea.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: egghead1]
    #3960828 - 03/23/05 06:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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egghead1 said:

The death penalty should be eradicated, the criminals should be put to good use, made to do hard manual labour for the rest of their lives, that'll work out some of thier negative karma as well as provide a useful service to society.




:thumbup:

Yup, That's what I have pretty much felt on this if people are going to be imprisoned, be it short term,  to life, possiblity of parole or sentenced to death.

They should be put to work to serve the community they dissed in someway to end up there. It would be good for them to shift their energy flow from one of taking to one of giving. It may be the first time in their lives they will get to experience a sense of accomplishment and doing something constructive and know the rewards of it and what it feels like to selflessly serve others.

Besides, if our tax money is paying to support them and their lives by giving them food, shelter and medical care, along with entertainment and plenty of R&R, its only fair they give something back to the community in exchange for their room and board.

I also think that if someone is going to be committed to prison for life and they would rather be dead, then they should be allowed to off themselves.

That was a funny tid bit you shared swami.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Swami]
    #3960977 - 03/23/05 07:30 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

That is so sad, and hilarious at the same time to me.

Allthough, the fact that society moved from electric chairs
(p.s. do you still have them in america in some parts?) to injections clearly shows that there is some progress.
Electric chair was obviously based on satisfaction of feelings I used to feel in elementary school before I outgrew them.

I can imagine that this alcohol cleaning brings feelings
of sadness and memory from life, because it is done to prevent harm and for better continhuation of life usually, yet now you get it before death.
It's kind of that feeling when you go to cook a favorite meal for your daughter one last time before she leaves to go to her own life.
Pointless little things that used to be rutine before, but now just remind you of that and bring tears


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: egghead1]
    #3960995 - 03/23/05 07:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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egghead1 said:
:lol: Thats quite an amusing twist to an otherwise serious matter.

The death penalty should be eradicated, the criminals should be put to good use, made to do hard manual labour for the rest of thier lives, that'll work out some of thier negative karma as well as provide a useful service to society.

But its all this biblical rubbish about an eye for an eye thats been utilized by the government. If God wrote that (which is seriously doubt) then he must love war, violence and revenge. :frown:




labour? For small money, yes, but not for free, because then they are slaves, and it ends up being just another punishment. We should give them sanctions and not punishment. Sanctions are formal, punishment is personal. We don't even know yet what makes them criminals.
So until we do, it's best that they just stay where they are and how they are, in prisons with all the elementary needs satisfied.

About the bible thing..
Personally I don't see any good reason why Christians keep the old testament at all. They are Christ(ians), and are supose to follow the teachings of the Christ. Jesus pretty much had overwritten the old ways, and never preached them, but his own new things.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Swami]
    #3967550 - 03/25/05 03:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Swami... you'd give a bureaucrat a headache.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Swami]
    #3967990 - 03/25/05 11:18 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

What is up with swabbing a death row inmate's arm with alcohol

Don't forget that the inmate must also be healthy before he is put to death. If the inmate has a cold, a doctor will be called to remedy that before the execution can go forward.

I am frequently amazed at our society's insanities.

You mean like how our president orders the death of tens of thousands of people in Iraq, but rushes home to sign a bill to save the life of a lump of flesh taking up valuable medical resources up the road from me in a Florida hospice? That insanity?


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Diploid]
    #3969137 - 03/25/05 04:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You mean like how our president orders the death of tens of thousands of people in Iraq, but rushes home to sign a bill to save the life of a lump of flesh taking up valuable medical resources up the road from me in a Florida hospice? That insanity?

Zakkly. I mentioned the exact same thing to a friend a few days ago. Why not spend millions on the homeless? Oh, wait! One does not accumulate many political points for that type of compassion.

This all goes back to my constant harping on cohesion and internal consistency of a belief system.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Swami]
    #3969249 - 03/25/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

wow that would be insane if the government decided to help people who actually need it.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: fearfect]
    #3969278 - 03/25/05 05:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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fearfect said:
wow that would be insane if the government decided to help people who actually need it.




HaHaHaHa...
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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Gomp]
    #3969466 - 03/25/05 05:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Haha, ya i also like the one i've heard here not long ago, about how you're not allowed to buy alcohol before you're 21 but you're allowed to go to war and kill people as soon as you turn 18.


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: exclusive58]
    #3969671 - 03/25/05 07:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"did you ever stop to think...
i'm old enough to go to war, but i ain't old enough to drink"

-tupac shakur


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: egghead1]
    #3970426 - 03/25/05 11:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The "God" Christians worship seems to resemble Satan more than the "God" they claim to worship. Swami, right on, our government is bass-ackwards in so many ways...


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Re: Lethal Injection and Hygiene [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3971480 - 03/26/05 05:05 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Dark_Star said:
The "God" Christians worship seems to resemble Satan more than the "God" they claim to worship.




The best part is they were warned of it in their own "holy" book.

I love it when a preacher will be giving his sermon on "the body is a temple" etc. and then follows up with a reminder for the congregation that they're close to their goal in the "new building" fund. The bible clearly states that the church (as a structure, both physical and metaphorical) is NOT a good thing. Fuck, it even pissed off Jesus so much that he knocked over some tables and hurled insults at the clergy. I'm rambling... sorry...


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