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The "Every Problem There Is" thread
    #3810287 - 02/21/05 11:46 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Discuss.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3810289 - 02/21/05 11:47 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

it's problematic to start threads like this


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: vampirism]
    #3810297 - 02/21/05 11:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I try to please. I was told that my Suicide Cult thread was too narrow and failed to cover all pertinent topics.

Seems I can't win. :confused: *Swami sobs uncontrollably and reaches for Paxil*


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3810447 - 02/21/05 12:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

what's the real problem problem?
or is there nothing worth typing?


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3810632 - 02/21/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

was'nt swami rama's first thing he always taught was that all problems start from fear?? or am i just talking out of my ass?


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: JCoke]
    #3810671 - 02/21/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

My biggest problem seems to be that I fall into pride. And the truth is that I don't like it one bit.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: MAGnum]
    #3810764 - 02/21/05 01:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

oh man, how about those friggin commies? argh!


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3810773 - 02/21/05 01:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

My problems lie in social anxiety and amphetamine abuse.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3810782 - 02/21/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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oh man, how about those friggin commies?




I'd be more concerned about these damn lizzards....


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: GRTUD]
    #3810794 - 02/21/05 02:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

A problem is an opportunity to do your best....apparently


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3810798 - 02/21/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It failed to cover what leads people into being brainwashed in to committing suicide by just looking at those who do it in a religious/spiritual,new age/devil worship cult. They are the very few in comparison to all cases.

The fundamentals of the brainwashing that leads to suicide is universal across the board.

If you care to heighten awareness about keeping people from being sucked in to brainwashing that leads to suicide then why make it so biased to addressing the vast MINORITY of suicides?

That sends a message that says as long as you stay away from faith based cults and leaders you will be safe from brainwashing that leads to suicide. You know that is not true and very misleading.

Parents are the number one family cult leaders of the brainwashing that leads to suicide. Suicides are the result of thinking your life here is useless and worthless and that as a human being you are less then, a failure. For people raised to believe this about themselves, they can easily begin to believe that taking themselves out of the equation here will not matter and they can easily be lead to believe that they can become something greater in death then in life.

The brainwashing does not begin when someone enters a cult with such an agenda for suicide when someone enters it. The brainwashing of being a worthless, stupid nobody no good to anyone here including themselves began long before which is why such a cult would appeal to them in the first place.

This is why I thought your topic was not brought up to serve the real cause and prevention, but rather to keep people from embracing a continuation of faith based beliefs that are in the LIGHT about respect and appreciation for life, self LOVE and a sense of self worth so they will never get sucked in to the self loathing and darkness of suicide.

Believing my human life is worth something, valuing and appreciating it, being able to create things and environments that serve others to their greater self joy , worth and knowing is what keeps me from getting the gun. I believe in LIFE, my potential and its potential for experiencing my greatest good. You won't catch me , or anyone with those beliefs thinking suicide is a good idea.

I choose those beliefs because they serve me and others to a greater good. I didn't come to this planet this round to experience the lesser good. Maybe some did and you are sure helping them out with that. To each his own I guess.

Believing one has a purpose of value here for fostering an appreciation for the beauty of life is faith based and prevents ideas like killing oneself. Look at what faith based beliefs would lead to it? Believing you are bad, wrong, worthless, useless, looser and a failure and that nobody cares if you are dead or alive.

Why do crush faith based beliefs that help some to stay in the game and at the same time, generate to foster bad feelings in others contributing to their wanting to leave the game, at least at S&P. I am not saying anyone you tore down or embarrassed here is going to run off and kill themselves over it. Like I said before, if they did, they would of had the propensity for it before they met you or a cult leader to drop the final straw.

And we are suppose to believe you care to keep people from getting further sucked into the self depreciating negativity that leads to suicide?

I don't understand why you had a problem with me widening the scope of your cult suicide post to the causes and preventions of suicide in general.  :confused: Now I need some paxil. Maybe just a hug :hug:

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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3810838 - 02/21/05 02:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

that there is none..


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3810841 - 02/21/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The brainwashing of being a worthless, stupid nobody no good to anyone here including themselves began long before which is why such a cult would appeal to them in the first place.




You are on to something here....keep going in this direction. You won't be disappointed!

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This is why I thought your topic was not brought up to serve the real cause and prevention, but rather to keep people from embracing a continuation of faith based beliefs that are in the LIGHT about respect and appreciation for life, self LOVE and a sense of self worth so they will never get sucked in to the self loathing and darkness of suicide.





Yes, yes.... this is the foundation of rational thinking! (I'm gonna try to give you some mushrooms. I've never done it yet but this is worth a try).  :thumbup:


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: GRTUD]
    #3810860 - 02/21/05 02:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

That author died, commited suicide rather... drug abuse and suicide...

Uncontrollable situations, or at least the illusion there of. Now are there really problems, or just our inability to accept the inevitable... so it wouldnt necesarilyl be a "problem", but just an event unfolding...


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3811293 - 02/21/05 04:00 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

"a permanent solution to a temporary problem"... is how I was told. In the case of HST, I'm not sure. I don't advocate suicide but I can see why, in some cases, people choose to die instead of living with certain burdens. Like I said, I don't know.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3811510 - 02/21/05 04:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Parents are the number one family cult leaders of the brainwashing that leads to suicide.

Then we should get rid of parents?


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3811540 - 02/21/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

We should get rid of both parents and children.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3811549 - 02/21/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Then we should get rid of parents?

I think she meant some parents.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3811556 - 02/21/05 05:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You're view of how cults work is off. You make unfounded assumptions to further your own view.

And as for problems, I think most are caused by personalized perspectives of reality. The more beliefs people hold, the more strife there will be in the world.


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Re: The "Every Problem There Is" thread [Re: Swami]
    #3811584 - 02/21/05 05:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Certainly not. We should educate them about how to raise a child with healthy esteem and self confidence, a sense of self worth and respect and appreciation for human life.

I think parenting classes were an elective in high school, that only the females signed up for, a few at that. Why are such classes not mandatory for all human beings?

Even if one chooses early on not to raise children of their own, they still need to be educated in this area, because they may take on a job dealing with children and child develop, become aunts and uncles who spend significant time with children or change their minds up the road.


Education education education.  :wink: children typically do not come with instruction manuals. I think most parents do the best they can with what they know, but often, its not enough and we loose a lot of kids to all sorts of atrocities because of it.

Blame and guilt in themselves are useless. Getting to a cause and solving problems to prevent them in the future is where its at.


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