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"Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms * 3
    #3398751 - 11/23/04 04:03 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

It seems quite popular by certain "spiritual" types to commingle various phrases with the word science in them as if they were the same in order to make a point. This is either blatantly dishonest or yet another sign of ignorance (neither indicative of a truly spiritual being). For future discussion, lets define these terms and NOT mix them up whenever it suits a poster's needs.

1. Scientist: an imperfect being who has dedicated much of his life's efforts to expanding our knowledge of the physical world using the scientific method.

2. Scientific method: a process whereby data is gathered, a hypothesis is formed and tested in a controlled manner to discover its validity/invalidity. This is ongoing and requires that others are able to repeat your experiments before being generally accepted.

3. Scientific knowledge: our current database of accepted facts/theories. This is subject to change as new methods of testing or observing add more relevant data allow us to do more precise experiments.

4. Politics of Science: i.e. the potential misuse of technology (weapons of war) and or damage to the environment (pollution, off-shore drilling); etc. This is a reflection of the nature of society in general and population size and really has NOTHING to do with science per se.


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: Swami]
    #3422843 - 11/29/04 01:44 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Science stole my wallet.

Or was the thief an ovoid-eyed, grey-skinned, alien?
It's hard to tell sometimes.


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: Sclorch]
    #3422872 - 11/29/04 01:54 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Damn it, science means whatever the fuck I want it to mean, and no one, especially not you, will EVER take that away from me. :mad:

This month, science means "ethnic Albanian women wearing hockey uniforms dancing seductively, dripping with freshly-produced honey, on an airplane set to land in Japan".  :wink:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3422877 - 11/29/04 01:58 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Damn it, science means whatever the fuck I want it to mean, and no one, especially not you, will EVER take that away from me. :mad:

This month, science means "ethnic Albanian women wearing hockey uniforms dancing seductively, dripping with freshly-produced honey, on an airplane set to land in Japan".  :wink:

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Sclorch's thought organ: He's playing right into your hands, Sclorch.
QUIET, you damned fool!  He might hear us and get suspicious...
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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3422878 - 11/29/04 01:58 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

are those dictionary defintions?

if not, who the fuck do you think you are?

just kidding.


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: Sclorch]
    #3422886 - 11/29/04 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

Sclorch said:
[Sclorch's thought organ: He's playing right into your hands, Sclorch.
QUIET, you damned fool!  He might hear us and get suspicious...
*shifty eyes*




Just remember, science will service you sexually, that is, if you don't mind getting a little sticky. :lol:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3422981 - 11/29/04 02:35 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Convenient commingly ha ha ha. We treat it almost as if science is not sacred huh? Ha Ha Ha. Sort of like their is nothing sacred about spiritual beleifs to PURE logical science types. HA HA HA Haaaaaaaa.

Sort of like how by the time logical science applies it self to the untangible realms of spirit and energy, they have totally distorted and mangled it from its original meaning in essense to fit their means?

Is that what some of us do with science terms when relating them to the untangible mechanistics of energy and spirit? Do we mangle and distort the meaning of their origins to fit our means?


Dishonest? Like how its dishonest to use only what from how far science has advanced to prove what can be possible with spirit?

Aha ha ha ha. I love how the Universe keeps balance and justice. HA HA HA HA. Thats all rich in irony and humor!


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3422994 - 11/29/04 02:39 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

HA HA HA HA

HAHAHA

HA


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3423062 - 11/29/04 03:01 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

:crazy2:

It's hypocrisy at its finest. It's like saying ,"I can use these words to distort the meaning of your beliefs that run contrary to mine but you can't use them and distort the meaning of them to run contrary to my beliefs.

Its like one uses them to distort what is clear to others and

others use them in distortion to make things clear.

Its like saying science can use it limitations to constrict and reduce (distort) broader arenas down to its current size of knowing but spirit can't distort via stretching and expanding upon the meaning of the words to fit them into broader arenas of personal knowing.

See the connection and the irony they are bound by like a two way street?

To see it as a one way street is the noise of rhetoric. Distortion is an annoying noise no matter which way you travel the two way highway.


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3423078 - 11/29/04 03:08 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

gettinjiggywithit said:
Distortion is an annoying noise no matter which way you travel the two way highway.




Wrong! :evil:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3423088 - 11/29/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Jiggy runs her finger nails down a chalk board! :nutkick:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3423106 - 11/29/04 03:16 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

gettinjiggywithit said:
Jiggy runs her finger nails down a chalk board!




:shocked: *cannot believe what Jiggy just did*

I'll have you know that sound is not welcome in a metal song. :mad:



:lol: :wink:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3423107 - 11/29/04 03:18 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

:penis: Where is this welcome?


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3423111 - 11/29/04 03:20 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Pop rock, they are a bunch of cocks. :smirk:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3423113 - 11/29/04 03:21 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

:cussing: What about this noise?


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3423148 - 11/29/04 03:33 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Nei, that is rap. You can easily tell by the "$" signs. :lol:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3423185 - 11/29/04 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

You're funny! :thumbup: :wink:


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3423218 - 11/29/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Indeed. :grin:

So, what is this thread suspossed to be about? Science, or something? :lol:

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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3423274 - 11/29/04 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

It was about humor from the start the way I read it, but seriously, I will turn it into something meaningful now we can grow with.

Science says spirituality can't use its words (they have possesiveness issues- but shhhhhhh don't tell anyone) For them, it is like the spiritualist is stepping on their HOLY land.

With that said, the two find it impossible to relate with out common language.

Spiritualists get beaned from science and the lay man for using new age jargon, because they can't relate without knowing the meanings and accuse spiritualists who use it as being arrogant separatists with their fancy pants language.

Soooooooo what language can we all use to relate to each other with and share concepts and understandings?

hell if I know!

They say, the easiest way to divide and Conquer is to give the people different languages that will prevent them from relating, communicating and understanding, grouping together into one strong force.

If any of us care to be as the ONE we are, and share in the strength of that, we have to make initiatives to bridge the language barriers and desire to find a means of relating and communicating.

What does anyone have to say about all this?


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Edited by gettinjiggywithit (11/29/04 04:13 PM)


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Re: "Convenient" Commingling of Science Terms [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3425965 - 11/30/04 01:46 AM (12 years, 7 days ago)

If you're going to use scientific terms (even scientific SOUNDING terms) to describe any part of a paranormal phenomenon, then you must be prepared to subject said phenomenon to full scientific scrutiny WITHOUT the convenience provided by the "faith" backdoor clause.

I don't expect you to understand... I expect you to provide another excuse.

Proceed.


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