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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Jehovah's witnesses
    #3300942 - 10/31/04 02:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I just got visited by a husband/wife team of Jehovah's witnesses.
They seemed very friendly and were more than happy to sit down
and talk with me about things. They also seem to be very dedicated
to the biblical scriptures. It was difficult bringing up any of my
skepticism or concern that might bring the legitimacy of the scriptures
into question. They gave me several pamphlets and encouraged me
to check out my bible. They said that they would stop back next
week.

The thing is, they are not going to change my mind about things.
I am a nihilist theist. I believe in an all-powerful and loving creator,
but I also believe that this creator is so beyond us, that any teachings
that Man claims are God's are either going to be hopelessly
flawed or incapable of being followed consistently by such a flawed
species.

I definately don't mind talking to these people, but I don't want them to
get pissed if I disagree with them.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3300945 - 10/31/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i say you should bring up your beliefs and your faiths, if they get pissed off they are only angering yourself. perhaps you might open a door for them


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3300965 - 10/31/04 02:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

When dealing with these guys be nice, but stand your ground if you do not agree...if they get pissed who cares.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3301020 - 10/31/04 03:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Jehovah's witness comes to my house a lot. They always bring pamphlets. I've told them some of my ideas and beliefs and they listened but they suggested I should reread my bible... not the reponse I was going for but at least they listened.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Bugmenot2]
    #3301027 - 10/31/04 03:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i would love if a Jehovah's witnesses came to my door :P
wonder why it newer has happen though. might i be a Jehovah's witnesses repellent? :P


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Bugmenot2]
    #3301029 - 10/31/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

all my experiences with Jwitnesses are that they are nice people...

until i went to a JW church, and i realized that not everone can be nice.

BUT the folks walking around converting are nice enough.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301040 - 10/31/04 03:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah they've all been very very nice at least those that came to my door. What happened at the church?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301052 - 10/31/04 03:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)


Quote by Randa
"It was difficult bringing up any of my
skepticism or concern that might bring the legitimacy of the scriptures
into question."

I would like to share the facts with you about the Bible that I have shared with others in another post.


The Bible is the only inspired, infallible Word of God. Historians agree as to the authenticity of the New and Old Testaments wrightings, and contrary to popular belief, transmissions of the text were completed with 99% precision (determined by textural criticism and comparisons of thousands of other manuscripts).
Evidence for the infallibility of the Bible includes: the bibliographical test; historical and archaeological confirmations; the Bible?s harmony (considering it contains 66 books written over 1,500years, by 40 authors on 3 continents) and 330 prophecies about the coming Messiah in the Old Testament fulfilled with 100% accuracy.





The Bible is the only inspired, infallible Word of God
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

No scripture prophecy is of PRIVATE INTERPRETATION (or a mans opinion or explication, or humanistic philosophies of his own mind). Scripture is the revelation of the mind of God.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301062 - 10/31/04 03:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

hey CER did you knwo that the bible was edited over 32 times by men who were not divinely inspired?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301081 - 10/31/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

From one spectrum to the next, both can be seen both can be heard.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301085 - 10/31/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Read some of the laws in there (the Bible), they are so obviously written by MEN.
It started as a means to keep the population under control through fear, and ended up enslaving mankind.
Jehovas Witnesses is just one of many groups of people who do not want to know.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301094 - 10/31/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i was about to ask who wrote the bible, too off-topic, but now that that came up, i say, who wrote the bible? anyone? is it a collection of what people have written throughout changes? is it another one of them "to many cooks"? kinda thought of the bible as something smiler to a large collection of trip reports :P and i would like to expand that wive.
no offense to anyone, just wondering who wrote it :P if nothing else, who collected all the writing as one book?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301097 - 10/31/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Would that be edited or translated from Greek and Hebrew to all the other languages on the earth?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Gomp]
    #3301106 - 10/31/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

66 books written over 1,500years, by 40 authors on 3 continents.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301110 - 10/31/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

no edited.

by the roman catholic church.

GOMP:

it was written by a cacheload of men.


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Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: psyched]
    #3301114 - 10/31/04 03:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

also from a previous post of mine...

And what, God is not omnipotent enough to make sure his word can?t be preserved through time so that all men might have an understanding of HIM.
Gosh are we all suppose conjure up some notion of God based on our emotions and desires so God is more acceptable to us???


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301144 - 10/31/04 03:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's the idea.
And, while you're at it, remember: Chastity, suffering and boredom gets you to heaven quicker! Also, all your cash are belong to me.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: psyched]
    #3301150 - 10/31/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

why is it so important we have an understanding of "HIM"?


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Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3301154 - 10/31/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

just answer the door in your boxers with a hard on, if there chicks either they will submit to their hornyness and have some fun, or they will walk away. either works hah


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301160 - 10/31/04 03:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The text we read is not a Roman Catholic Text. Thats a whole nother discussion.

I guess I should have said "if you want to understand HIM".

I believe in the heart of everyman they know there is a God. I think I would rather trust that he can preserve his word than hope that what I would like him to be is right when I am on my death bed.


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