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Jehovah's witnesses
    #3300942 - 10/31/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I just got visited by a husband/wife team of Jehovah's witnesses.
They seemed very friendly and were more than happy to sit down
and talk with me about things. They also seem to be very dedicated
to the biblical scriptures. It was difficult bringing up any of my
skepticism or concern that might bring the legitimacy of the scriptures
into question. They gave me several pamphlets and encouraged me
to check out my bible. They said that they would stop back next
week.

The thing is, they are not going to change my mind about things.
I am a nihilist theist. I believe in an all-powerful and loving creator,
but I also believe that this creator is so beyond us, that any teachings
that Man claims are God's are either going to be hopelessly
flawed or incapable of being followed consistently by such a flawed
species.

I definately don't mind talking to these people, but I don't want them to
get pissed if I disagree with them.

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3300945 - 10/31/04 12:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i say you should bring up your beliefs and your faiths, if they get pissed off they are only angering yourself. perhaps you might open a door for them


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3300965 - 10/31/04 12:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

When dealing with these guys be nice, but stand your ground if you do not agree...if they get pissed who cares.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3301020 - 10/31/04 01:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Jehovah's witness comes to my house a lot. They always bring pamphlets. I've told them some of my ideas and beliefs and they listened but they suggested I should reread my bible... not the reponse I was going for but at least they listened.

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Bugmenot2]
    #3301027 - 10/31/04 01:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i would love if a Jehovah's witnesses came to my door :P
wonder why it newer has happen though. might i be a Jehovah's witnesses repellent? :P


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Bugmenot2]
    #3301029 - 10/31/04 01:07 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

all my experiences with Jwitnesses are that they are nice people...

until i went to a JW church, and i realized that not everone can be nice.

BUT the folks walking around converting are nice enough.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301040 - 10/31/04 01:10 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah they've all been very very nice at least those that came to my door. What happened at the church?

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301052 - 10/31/04 01:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)


Quote by Randa
"It was difficult bringing up any of my
skepticism or concern that might bring the legitimacy of the scriptures
into question."

I would like to share the facts with you about the Bible that I have shared with others in another post.


The Bible is the only inspired, infallible Word of God. Historians agree as to the authenticity of the New and Old Testaments wrightings, and contrary to popular belief, transmissions of the text were completed with 99% precision (determined by textural criticism and comparisons of thousands of other manuscripts).
Evidence for the infallibility of the Bible includes: the bibliographical test; historical and archaeological confirmations; the Bible?s harmony (considering it contains 66 books written over 1,500years, by 40 authors on 3 continents) and 330 prophecies about the coming Messiah in the Old Testament fulfilled with 100% accuracy.





The Bible is the only inspired, infallible Word of God
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

No scripture prophecy is of PRIVATE INTERPRETATION (or a mans opinion or explication, or humanistic philosophies of his own mind). Scripture is the revelation of the mind of God.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301062 - 10/31/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

hey CER did you knwo that the bible was edited over 32 times by men who were not divinely inspired?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301081 - 10/31/04 01:22 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

From one spectrum to the next, both can be seen both can be heard.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301085 - 10/31/04 01:24 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Read some of the laws in there (the Bible), they are so obviously written by MEN.
It started as a means to keep the population under control through fear, and ended up enslaving mankind.
Jehovas Witnesses is just one of many groups of people who do not want to know.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301094 - 10/31/04 01:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i was about to ask who wrote the bible, too off-topic, but now that that came up, i say, who wrote the bible? anyone? is it a collection of what people have written throughout changes? is it another one of them "to many cooks"? kinda thought of the bible as something smiler to a large collection of trip reports :P and i would like to expand that wive.
no offense to anyone, just wondering who wrote it :P if nothing else, who collected all the writing as one book?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301097 - 10/31/04 01:27 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Would that be edited or translated from Greek and Hebrew to all the other languages on the earth?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Gomp]
    #3301106 - 10/31/04 01:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

66 books written over 1,500years, by 40 authors on 3 continents.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301110 - 10/31/04 01:30 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

no edited.

by the roman catholic church.

GOMP:

it was written by a cacheload of men.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: psyched]
    #3301114 - 10/31/04 01:33 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

also from a previous post of mine...

And what, God is not omnipotent enough to make sure his word can?t be preserved through time so that all men might have an understanding of HIM.
Gosh are we all suppose conjure up some notion of God based on our emotions and desires so God is more acceptable to us???


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301144 - 10/31/04 01:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

That's the idea.
And, while you're at it, remember: Chastity, suffering and boredom gets you to heaven quicker! Also, all your cash are belong to me.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: psyched]
    #3301150 - 10/31/04 01:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

why is it so important we have an understanding of "HIM"?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3301154 - 10/31/04 01:51 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

just answer the door in your boxers with a hard on, if there chicks either they will submit to their hornyness and have some fun, or they will walk away. either works hah


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301160 - 10/31/04 01:54 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

The text we read is not a Roman Catholic Text. Thats a whole nother discussion.

I guess I should have said "if you want to understand HIM".

I believe in the heart of everyman they know there is a God. I think I would rather trust that he can preserve his word than hope that what I would like him to be is right when I am on my death bed.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301166 - 10/31/04 01:56 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

edited.

Even the roman catholic church is admitting to a lot of it now, like how they trashed mary magdelines reputation and called her a crazy whore who found salvation through Jesus. She was not crazy nor a whore. The other issue was, this woman who was the closest confident of Jesus was female and that didn't fly with their male dominated stance.

There are so many more they admit to over the course of time.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3301177 - 10/31/04 02:00 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Cer,

I'm pretty sure all Christian religions branched off from Catholosism, which means they too the edits with them.

I can't speak for the book of Mormon, never read it.

The part this pisses me off is how all the trippy cosmic shit jesus taught was taken out.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3301180 - 10/31/04 02:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Im so freaken addict to this board I can't stand myself.
I gotta go, my kids running around like a Pagan LOL.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301347 - 10/31/04 02:59 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i gotta go, my kids spouting verses like a christian.

ignorance is bliss.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Todcasil]
    #3301349 - 10/31/04 02:59 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

sarcasm ^^


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3301420 - 10/31/04 03:20 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

You are uninformed my friend. The Bible is a wonderful book, but it is a mythology, not based on fact. There is no problem with a religion based on a mythology as that is the standard, but it is still only a mythos.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3301900 - 10/31/04 05:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

jehovah's witnesses are nice but yet they are the borg

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Vvellum]
    #3301974 - 10/31/04 06:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

JW use their own properly translated bible...
they say that only their organization is the realio dealio with the creator of the universe (other "churches" messed it up somehow)
they are are sort of spin-off of the millerite movement (with a prediction for the end of the world in 1844)

& most all the other folks calling themselves christian find major fault with the JWs because (in spite of their general sorta "fundie" reading of the scriptures) they are not "trinitarians" (that is, they deny the pervasive (within christendom) concept of a triune god - y'know "father, son, & holy spirit") mmmkay?)





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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gnrm23]
    #3302108 - 10/31/04 06:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Not a good idea since they know where u live.
But w/ other jesus freaks who want me to go to their church. my new approach is to offer to go if they are willing to partake in a shroom sacrament. Guy said they were illegal. But not in every country. So if you got some funny green energy credits and a lost soul uses legallity issues as a reason, take em out country and go to church. afterwards.
Amen

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: CER]
    #3302608 - 10/31/04 08:45 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

CER - what about the "gnostic gospels" (the gospel of st thomas, for example). these aren't included as a part of the Bible, and yet have been shown to be written at about the same time as the other gospels. The only main difference? They support a strongly anti-authoritarian approach to the creation of Jesus' church. So if the Bible is the infallable word of God, what's up with those extra gospels?

And, my main question about JW's regards something that I've heard before - that they believe there is a specific, finite number of people who will be taken to heaven when the day of judgement comes (55,000 or something like that). Does anybody know if they actually believe this? And if so, how do they reconcile this belief with the fact that there have been way more than that number of JW's, but they are still trying to convert people? "well, join our church, learn the true word of God, learn about the greatness of heaven... but sorry, it's already filled up :shrug: "


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Krishna]
    #3302793 - 10/31/04 09:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yes, their is a set number, i think its 100,000 or something ridiculous... very odd belief.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Krishna]
    #3303699 - 11/01/04 05:22 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

My husband, who is a Pastor, knows about "these books" that have not been added to the scriptures. I think he said there are about 6?
Some that he feels are valuable to be added.
Not to contradict my husband (bwah) but I just find it hard to believe that God made a mistake in getting his Word together.
I could go on and on and on here defending "my" faith but I would be reiterating myself continually and it would leave me little time to do anything else!

I know your question about the JW's is not particularly aimed at me but, I have studied their faith a little bit. As far as I know many of the dates they claim to have been the end times have gone and past. And my Bible tells me that if anyone makes a prophecy and it does not come to pass, they are a false prophet.
As far as the number of those entering the kingdom I believe it changes from time to time.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Krishna]
    #3303887 - 11/01/04 07:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

144,000
12,000 for each of the original 12 tribe of the people of israel...



yeah, after the 1844 millerite debacle, a few other dates were set by JWs (who, as i said, emerged from the millerite movement)-- the best-knnown being 1914...

there are a number of beliefs that JWs hold which tend to put them on the fringes of "mainstream christianity"...

(historical note: the JWs in europe during WWII were made to wear special patches on their clothing, & rounded up & liquidated in hitler's death camps -- along with jews, gypsies, mentally ill, homosexuals, mentally retarded, known communists, and some slavic peoples)


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    #3304142 - 11/01/04 09:21 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3304197 - 11/01/04 09:45 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Its tough to say that the bible is the ultimate word of God, when man rejected 6 of the 10 best known gospels. I have never been confident enough to say that I know better then God (and if you believe that Mat, Mark, Luke, and John were God's instruments, then Thomas and friends were too), so to say he fucked up 6 of his 10 efforts is a little to bold for me.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gnrm23]
    #3304227 - 11/01/04 10:02 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sometimes, I am so in "my world" I forget it's not everyones world. LOL

I remember reading that only 144,000 people would get into heaven with the rapture as a kid and thinking, the odds are not good, considering there are billions of people on the planet. I had my head buried in revelations around the age of 13. It fascinated and scared the hell out of me and fucked with my head more then anything.

I was laughing about this with my husband just now. He just said, "Sounds to me like the "party" will be where the rest of us our going. Who wants to be stuck for eternity with morally pure and self rightious."

Anywayyyyyyyyyyyy, Thankfully, I got the shiz on that number along the way. 144,000 is symbolic of the number of petals on the lotus flower which is symbolic of Christ Consciousness. The lotus flower is also symbilic of the pituitary gland when it opens a release of chemicals that can put you in estatic raputous states.

It gets opened when you open the "holy grail chakra or Christ Point", which is between the 4th and 5th chakras. When you go through it, that area fills like it's expanding and flutters in a flurry "energetically speaking" and pulses. It can last for days, weeks or months. The high is unreal.

Anyone can do it and everyone will at some point. There are no chosen ones, only those who choose, no one saves you from your own darkness, you save yourself by understanding it as your unknown self.

I bet Bible Thumpers would call this one of the myths that will lead people astray, and I ask, in the words of the great Rythem blues prophet Aretha Franklin, "Who's zoomin who?"

This game is fun, is it not? Peek a boo, I seeeeeeeee you!


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3304269 - 11/01/04 10:20 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

He didn't look too good when they finally opened the door.



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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Gomp]
    #3304295 - 11/01/04 10:37 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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i would love if a Jehovah's witnesses came to my door :P
wonder why it newer has happen though. might i be a Jehovah's witnesses  repellent? :P




I remember that there was even Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway.... so they are somewhere out there, gomp, sneaking around your house at night and shit, plotting, planning..... If I were you, I'd let the elkhounds lose, and have them chew on them as if they were bears.... :lol:

I'm sorry, but from my limited experience, Jehovah's Witnesses have an even more seperating faith than a lot of more mainstream Chrisitianity, demonstrated by the fact that it is not allowed to celebrate one own's birthday.... A representation of an externalization of God so extreme that one cannot even be themself.... :frown:

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3304353 - 11/01/04 11:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know what you are talking about, but technology won't cut it. It's an internal event, promted by internal means.

I have a friend running around looking for the techonological inovation of the millineum that will "fix everything for him"

Sort of defeats the purpose. How is any one ever going to know themselfs ie "Know thyself" and become soveirn responce-able beings when they let others or technology do the work for them.

I think thats how Frakenstien was created. My motto is, don't ever let others create you or tell you what you are or make you out to be what they want you to be.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses *DELETED* [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3304587 - 11/01/04 12:20 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3304641 - 11/01/04 12:35 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've been making the same point throughout many posts.

Many people think once the rapture hits, it will be for all of eternity. We were in a state of perpetual rapture for all of eternity and removed ourselves from it because it was so much, it wasn't even appreciated any more.


We can achieve periodic states of Nirvana, and Bliss, whatever, to refuel, reconnect and strengthen ourselves, but to stay in them for long periods of time let alone eternity, is yes, too much of a good thing.

When something becomes spoiled, it just rots from there. Some times, I like to think we were like the spoiled Bratz mooching off Creator, sucking off its teets just drooling on cosmic herion, not creating or giving nothing to the cause and IT was like, Damn people, go out and get a job or something, become productive and responcible mature godlets, Get A LIFE of your own already and make something of yourself, show me what you can do and become!

However, I don't think we got the boot, I think those of us here just decided Ya, time to cut the cords and grow up and thats what we are doing.

So those temprorary states are like, going home for Sunday dinner.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Krishna]
    #3304826 - 11/01/04 01:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

They believe that 144,000 go to heaven. The people that will go to heaven are called the annointed and are the only ones that partake during the Memorial (Last Supper thing with wine and bread). And for the rest there's Paradise. In the not so distant future Armagedon will come when God will kill most of the people on the planet. Only His select few will survive along with people He resurects. The people that survive get to live forever on Earth in Paradise.

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An absolutely critical date for the Jehovah's Witnesses is 1914 AD. It is the date when, according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the time of the Gentiles ended (Watchtower, 5/1/93, page 11) and "Jesus-the heavenly warrior Michael-became King of God's heavenly Kingdom," (Watchtower 11/1/93, page 23).



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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3304854 - 11/01/04 01:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

""demonstrated by the fact that it is not allowed to celebrate one own's birthday.... ""

sweet, if you forget belief and knowing, and experience the now as a whole, you could technically say you were/is born now, and that the only thing you should celebrate is your birth now, whitc is all the change, so separating "one day" from "other days" making "that one day" special, could have the cute effect of bringing all the other days down a nothc? not raising the one above the others, just lowering the quality of the others? keeping only that one day like all eternity could pass? :P Happiness can set you free
It never bind
Love cannot be measured
It can only see
Time is action
Again and Again
We could se
or let it be I must express the joy I feel
The present change
The instantly
This moment I create
but now is her
Given in birth
I need not crave
I create, happiness is something temporarily,
it always has to be renewed,
So if one need a source,
and the source is life itself,
Well I be damn, I'm happy all the fucking time!


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: newuser1492]
    #3304862 - 11/01/04 01:36 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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God will kill most of the people on the planet. Only His select few will survive along with people He resurects.




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Re: Jehovah's witnesses *DELETED* [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3305028 - 11/01/04 02:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3305065 - 11/01/04 02:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry for this humurous post, but my grandmother used to tell me that if you put wind chimes outside of your door, they will not knock :p Anybody heard of this? LunarEclipse, what do you consider a man? A body with an ego (what about so called buddhas, can they know God?)? I consider a man an ego, and i consider myself to have infinite potential (equal of god). Peace


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3305083 - 11/01/04 02:19 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Beautifully put. I loved all of what you wrote. I hope you hang around and post more here. I will give you your first rating for that. You said something I was going to write about elsewhere and that is, you can only get as far as you reach..... so reach far........and like you said, get off your ass and then , take the steps to get there.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3305711 - 11/01/04 04:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3305740 - 11/01/04 04:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Water on the stone...some wisdom here.


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: DMTelepath]
    #3305748 - 11/01/04 04:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #3309041 - 11/02/04 12:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Interesting that your grandmother would tease you with a koan. Was this typical of her behavior to you or in general?




I don't really know if this was typical behavior of her, but she's a solid christian. When i bust out and tell her i'm God, she gets very angry. I'm sorry to bring my bullshit posts to this part of the shroomery :p I feel that i'll have something to offer here some day, possibly just my opinions or ideals, what else do we have?


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3309352 - 11/02/04 01:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand why people get so emotionally involved in things when people disagree with them.  Someone disagreeing with me is an enjoyable experience, I love when someone challenges my beliefs or does not agree with everything I say.  Don't get mad, have a heated debate and learn! :thumbup:


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Re: Jehovah's witnesses [Re: Signo]
    #3310081 - 11/02/04 03:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

For sure, that's how you actually learn something. Getting mad over somebody elses opinion is being ignorant. Taking in as many aspects of the same idea(s) will get you the closest to the truth.


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