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Re: drugs [Re: Lakimada]
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hehe no sorry i wasnt meaning to be in any way harsh or negative, and the only thing i really disagree with it the statement 'you can acheive that without drugs'

i honestly dont believe theres anyone who can have an acid trip without doing acid, and thats that.

And the point of doing things when there illusions is the same as doing them when there not illusions, because you enjoy them, you grow from them, or whatever else.

And sorry for some reason i thought you were a girl, my mistake


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Re: drugs [Re: Moonshoe]
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i honestly dont believe theres anyone who can have an acid trip without doing acid, and thats that

when you have control over filters of the mind/brain connection you can experience anything you like...

not a prob about the girl thing hahah i find it very funny actually

Edited by Lakimada (10/27/04 05:15 PM)

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Re: drugs [Re: Lakimada]
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"when you have control over filters of the mind/brain connection you can experience anything you like... "

on second thought, maybe your right, i myself have said many times that ANYTHING is possible, especially in the realm of mental states... but i would beg the question, have you ever had a psychadelic trip without doing drugs?

and also, that would just be so much harder. However, if you actually could learn to induce a true psychadelic experience without drugs at will, well....

that would be fucking awesome, teach me how you did it


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Re: drugs [Re: Moonshoe]
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on second thought, maybe your right, i myself have said many times that ANYTHING is possible, especially in the realm of mental states... but i would beg the question, have you ever had a psychadelic trip without doing drugs?

you know how every experience is unique with psycs?? well the acheivable state is unique in itself you can create similar settings and experiences as psycs...sometimes so similiar that you sometimes wonder if you took drugs...

and also, that would just be so much harder. However, if you actually could learn to induce a true psychadelic experience without drugs at will, well....

harder maybe, more statisfying, hell yes...you can go higher than the shrooms take you. but have to be willing to let go of everything about you, your beliefs, perception, deattach yourself from everything. just be and let the energy flow.

that would be fucking awesome, teach me how you did it

i don't even now how i came across it i have always known even as a child. but didn't actually know what i was experiencing...
but can be achieved through self hypnosis. its not going to happen straight away, the more you train the easier it comes to you. think of self hypnosis as a system of alchemy for the mind. you have to tweak the script here and there until you experience what you want to acheive. another secret is dmt its naturally found in the brain's chemicals you can tell yourself to secrete more of the chemical or any chemical for that matter. and tell yourself to experience its full effects....
i have done a little experiement with people that i know that are true acid heads. i would give them a tab without any acid in it. 10 minutes they are trippin off there tits. so i guess its kind of a placebo effect.
just find out what works for you, as this is only another starting point...

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Re: drugs [Re: Lakimada]
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when you have control over filters of the mind/brain connection you can experience anything you like...


this sounds like something that can be accomplished in a minimum of two lifetimes... ehhhh i'll stick with the shrooms and meditations.

You know you're lucky to have taken this path ever since your youngest age (if what you say is true). You seem to have been blessed with some sort of pre-illuminated relation with reality. Maybe it has to do with previous lives of yours or something i dunno... but the only negativity that i'd like to get to you is that you're coming here all showy and all telling us that what we experience on shrooms can be experienced without shrooms. What you are really telling us is that YOU are able to achieve this.

Now that's great to know, really, I'm sincerely fascinated by the level of self-knowledge, self-control, self-awareness -whatever you wanta call it- that you have reached.
But its something that has naturally come to you. Maybe this is why its hard for you to realize why we come back to shrooms, cuz we're not like you. We have no idea how you are able to do this. Its too easy to come here and say "whaaaat, u guys are still using drugs?? well check it out,i don't need drugs!".

I don't mean to be mean or anything. I'm glad you started this thread you are proof that anything is possible and that you are the creator of your own reality. I just wish you'd be able to add on to that. You vaguely mentioned that self hypnosis can help, but that's it.
I'm sorry, but i feel you're just bragging.

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Re: drugs [Re: exclusive58]
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this sounds like something that can be accomplished in a minimum of two lifetimes... ehhhh i'll stick with the shrooms and meditations.

it may sound like that but depends on how much one practice that and if thats what they want to achieve as a goal.

You know you're lucky to have taken this path ever since your youngest age (if what you say is true). You seem to have been blessed with some sort of pre-illuminated relation with reality. Maybe it has to do with previous lives of yours or something i dunno... but the only negativity that i'd like to get to you is that you're coming here all showy and all telling us that what we experience on shrooms can be experienced without shrooms. What you are really telling us is that YOU are able to achieve this.

i don't think i am lucky if i were to choose i would rather not have experienced any of it. but it was the cards i was dealt with so i play them best as i can. sorry if it might seemed showy but when people ask so many questions and expect more of an answer its hard not to answer to some of their expectations...

I just wish you'd be able to add on to that. You vaguely mentioned that self hypnosis can help, but that's it.

the only reason i mentioned self hypnosis is because the sub-conscious can work directly with super/christ consciousness. there is more to it but its something everybody have to figure out for themselves....

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as far as drugs go... [Re: Lakimada]
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I`m no veteran, I`ll be the first to admit it... I have tripped on shrooms before but they (although very spiritually enlightening for me) haven`t been quite as earth-shattering as they seem to be for other people, probably the dosage was inadequate or my mental state at the time prohibited my going further than myself.

even though often I`ve had the deja-vu experience when tripping of being filmed, and narrowing of reality down to nothing but scenes, played out, written beforehand, and the feeling of being watched by some creatures on the other side of some kind of t.v. equivalent.

For me shrooms have the uncanny ability of taking a person to completely different thought-patterns and experiences, far extended beyond the normal, average way of existence I think we all fall into from time to time (forced or voluntary), and even though I dabble in meditation to use a very unflattering term, and have found myself able to ascend to somewehere beyond my ego and bodily self in a sober state I have never experienced something as unique and profound as some of the realisations I came to whilst tripping with good friends or alone.

Drugs are doorways, and some of those doors look pretty damn alluring, brightly coloured, or are heavily scented with the most delicious and exotic of smells, or hold promises of earlier loves or lusts...

It is easy to live one`s life completely oblivious of what lies behind the doorways, a lot of people do it, and seem to thrive by it. But once you`ve opened doorways to places where reality is turned, is shifting, everchanging in beautiful auras, colours, shapes, thoughts, dreams, wisdom, laughter, truth, lies, I think it`s pretty much impossible never to desire returning to those worlds, even though one might argue that there are different ways of attaining similar experiences.

I think many drugs enhance and diversify life, and that many in our modern day world have lives that can probably use enhancing and diversifying, if only for the sake of creating more respect for the world, or opening eyes to different perspectives of truth or morals or values or life itself...


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Re: drugs [Re: Lakimada]
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a few more question lakimada, one why do you say you would rather not have experienced any of it?

and most importantly, would you care to actually describe even superficially one of these amazing drug free trips that youve had? as in what were some of the general perceptions / experiences that you had/ felt, what was the circumstance it happend in?

now when your saying you had drug like trips but better, i expect that means you had some kind of hallucinations, euphoria, etc. So give us a 'trip report'


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Re: drugs [Re: Moonshoe]
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are you saying you could know how it is driving a car before you actually get in a car and drive?


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Edited by Gomp (10/28/04 01:16 PM)

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Re: drugs [Re: Gomp]
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a few more question lakimada, one why do you say you would rather not have experienced any of it?

because when i was growing up, i had to meet with so many doctors, they would just refer me to one and another without getting any answers to what was actually happening to me and days in and out of hosptial, nobody knew anything ...until one day in my early teens i meet up with a long distant relative tha showed me how to ground myself in a balance between spirituality and life..and ground energy that i was recieving so i didn't get burned or burnt out. so much of a hinderence in the people's lives around me.

and most importantly, would you care to actually describe even superficially one of these amazing drug free trips that youve had? as in what were some of the general perceptions / experiences that you had/ felt, what was the circumstance it happend in?

sometimes it happened spontaneous/ i get a feeling and acutal vision of everything that is man made starting to disintegrate, i have brought this down to no energy force within the structures of man made objects. when that starts to happen i go straight outside and sit or lay down on the lawn or close to near a garden. so i have something to concentrate on that i still can see....
if i want it to pass i just keep concentrating on trees/plants or anything with or that has life force...
if i want to continue with the "trip" or state of being.. i just start to meditate on letting everything go "deattachment". besides from that there is no coming on effects. then nothing... i have no me, no physical body, no identity, become god consciousness. everything becomes orchestrated, from the cosmic dance of energy to life. and it all happens in an instant. experince of life becoming and experience life going, of the universe, people, all living things, everything...after that it become inexpressable. emotions are inexpressable sure i could say love/or unconditional love but that wouldn't do it justice....sometimes i would wake up a few days later, but it all seems like a click of the finger....everytime something like that happens it feels like i have lost apart of my identity.
the one thing that confuses me is why i keep coming back...
but i guess that shouldn't be of worry when it happens it will happen..
i know that this isn't much of a report but its the best i can do with words. and probably wasn't what you expected but oh well.

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Re: drugs [Re: Lakimada]
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wow that sounds pretty awesome  :thumbup:


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Re: drugs [Re: Moonshoe]
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sometimes scary especially when everything that is solid around you just dissapears. but like all things you get used to it

Edited by Lakimada (10/28/04 06:17 PM)

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