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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
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You kind of ignored  everything else I said too . So here's a repost , just for you .



Fair enough.

My apologies, it is late where I am, and I am kinda twacked...

Psilynut2 said:
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I just don't understand why people thought the DNC wasn't going to resist fundamentally being changed , by Bernie  .
Both Bernie and Hillary signed an agreement to give a portion of the money their campaigns raised to the DNC .
  Hillary raised a metric fuckton of money and gave the DNC 430 million . Bernie didnt raise any money through that agreement , he did grass roots and gave them nothing .
  Do you not see the problem ?





Interesting. I suppose that is an angle that I wasn't aware of. So, did Bernie make commitments that he didn't keep, or his donations didn't fund the DNC, because they were small dollar, grass roots donations?

Or are you saying he had obligations to do fund raising event type shit for the DNC, and he didn't deliver?

Either way, this actually is a good point against Bernie.



In 2015 the DNC was is major debt carried over after Obamas 2012 campaign. Bernie relied on grassroots donations, he didnt try to leverage big donors to bail out the cash strapped dnc.

The money Hillary gave to the dnc came with strings attached, because in exchange for keeping the dnc afloat, Clinton's campaign demanded joint authority over dnc staffing, budgeting, data, and communications.

It essentially forced a faustian bargain with Hillary Clinton, where after the election it was revealed the DNC had fundamentally compromised its primary neutrality.

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Memo Reveals Details of Hillary Clinton-DNC Deal

In exchange for Hillary for America's (HFA) helping the cash-strapped DNC raise money, the party committee agreed "that HFA personnel will be consulted and have joint authority over strategic decisions over the staffing, budget, expenditures, and general election related communications, data, technology, analytics, and research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/memo-reveals-details-hillary-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411




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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly] * 1
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sudly said:
In 2015 the DNC was is major debt carried over after Obamas 2012 campaign. Bernie relied on grassroots donations, he didnt try to leverage big donors to bail out the cash strapped dnc.

The money Hillary gave to the dnc came with strings attached, because in exchange for keeping the dnc afloat, Clinton's campaign demanded joint authority over dnc staffing, budgeting, data, and communications.

It essentially forced a faustian bargain with Hillary Clinton, where after the election it was revealed the DNC had fundamentally compromised its primary neutrality.

Quote:
Memo Reveals Details of Hillary Clinton-DNC Deal

In exchange for Hillary for America's (HFA) helping the cash-strapped DNC raise money, the party committee agreed "that HFA personnel will be consulted and have joint authority over strategic decisions over the staffing, budget, expenditures, and general election related communications, data, technology, analytics, and research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/memo-reveals-details-hillary-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411





Interesting.

Thank you, Sudly!

So, I suppose it's a bit more nuanced, than to say Bernie just fucked the Democratic party over. Clinton leveraged her donors, in an attempt to purchase the primary nomination (And she was successful in doing so).

I'm sure Bernie understood fullwell that no matter how much ass-kissing he did to the DNC, they had already chosen their candidate, and it wouldn't help him. Why waste the time and effort? It would have been a weird look for Bernie to be courting the donor class, while running the campaign he did also...


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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ever wonder why everyone in Texas smokes weed yet they are so interested in keeping crazy penalties on the books?

they want the option of hanging cases on the people they don't like.  it's always been this way.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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Because weed smells so its easy to catch and I'm willing to bet less texas smoke weed per capita then weed legalized states. Weed is a society trap.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 2
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dinosaurs said:
ever wonder why everyone in Texas smokes weed yet they are so interested in keeping crazy penalties on the books?

they want the option of hanging cases on the people they don't like.  it's always been this way.



The voters in Texas legalized marijuana via ballot measure, and then the state legislature made it illegal again.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: GerryD] * 1
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GerryD said:
sudly said:
She endorsed Mike rodgers which is as close as declaring herself a republican as you can get without making the final step in paperwork.

Fetterman did a Freudian slip and called himself a republican somewhat recently..



These social media posts aged like milk:





She was on Anderson Cooper this evening and gave the most mealy-mouthed response imaginable, trying to play both sides and pretend she’s still a member of the democratic party.

is=pJ_2QYQRooJuyi-l




thats all she is.  I heard her on NPR in the runup to the primaries (they tried to feature all of the senate candidates prior to and after the primaries) and every response was entirely devoid of substance.  just that just a lot of meaningless responses along with how israel is our greatest ally. 

meanwhile mike rogers flat out declined to appear on NPR at all.

if she was ever actually a democrat, she was exactly what Im talking about when I mention these ideologically weak status-quo motherfuckers that would win power and do absolutely nothing to help, and nothing to punish MAGA for what they've done to this country.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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I've not heard her speak until yesterday. I was wearing headphones. I hate her voice.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
dinosaurs said:
ever wonder why everyone in Texas smokes weed yet they are so interested in keeping crazy penalties on the books?

they want the option of hanging cases on the people they don't like.  it's always been this way.



The voters in Texas legalized marijuana via ballot measure, and then the state legislature made it illegal again.



Undoubtedly, in part, due to pressure from fundamentalist religious groups, Law Enforcement associations, and various special interests.

And they still get away with it, in part, because there are enough wealthy white people who know they're not in any real danger while also being a little apprehensive about POC hanging around. And knowing, deep down, that weed is the easiest thing to nail them on. Same basic mentality as Giuliani's "stop and frisk" policy.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: B Traven]
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She got 37 million from aipac, and some will be insane enough to say that doesnt sway someone.

Don't believe your lying eyes :rolleyes:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly] * 1
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sudly said:
She got 37 million from aipac, and some will be insane enough to say that doesnt sway someone.

Don't believe your lying eyes :rolleyes:



Uae is also funding many campaigns as well for "speaking fees" . Aipac is just the first they aren't the biggest bribery going on anymore.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: vicepope]
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If thats true, how much are people getting, who, and what policy choices align with the agenda of the UAE donors?

And whatever your answer, nothing wipes out, mitigates or minimises the influence of Aipac money for turncoat ratfucking actions like Stevenson has unequivocally and irrevocably proven.

You want to add others to the list? Go ahead, AIPAC is on it.

Trump got a 400 million dollar jet from Qatar which is just another form of corruption.

Speaker fees are like lobbying, another form.

The scale of aipac spending is more than speaking fees.


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Edited by sudly (11/03/26 02:52 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2023/04/pentagon-leaks-suggest-the-uaes-russia-ties-may-go-beyond-spirit-of-mediation-touted-by-u-s-lobbyists

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-clients-spent-64m-us-lobbying-between-2020-2021-new-analysis-finds

https://www.sudaninthenews.com/international/uaelobbyusa

Aipac came first I'll grant you that.  But as the crow flies Isreal is a poor bicth to oil funded states. The united states election and policy's are just a proxy for richer oil barons to fight over.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: vicepope] * 1
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So Haley Stevens got more from Aipac than the UAE spent lobbying in the US for all of 2022.

UAE spent about 32 million a year lobbying between 2020 and 2022.

Haley got 36 million from AIPAC for the primary against abdul.

There's plenty of lobbyist about, fact is, AIPAC spends the most doing it.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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Oh boy... here we go..

Tucker Carlson said Netanyahu is pushing Trump to use nuclear weapons in Iran. Looks like Trump is gonna throw a big baby fit about the midterms.

Using nukes over something as stupid as your butthurt feeewings firstly, really tracks, with the Republican party.. but also it's the #1 reason why nuclead disarmament is so important!


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
So Haley Stevens got more from Aipac than the UAE spent lobbying in the US for all of 2022.

UAE spent about 32 million a year lobbying between 2020 and 2022.

Haley got 36 million from AIPAC for the primary against abdul.

There's plenty of lobbyist about, fact is, AIPAC spends the most doing it.



I recently heard that AIPAC spends more $$ than any other lobby in America. I'm not entirely sure thats true, but I wouldn't be surprised at all...


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Shot



Chaser


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
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The Dems are crushing it in Texas right now .
  I'm going to go ahead and just call the house Dems win .


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Edited by Psilynut2 (11/03/26 09:43 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods] * 2
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Holy shit Greg Abbott is having the worst night since that tree fell on him.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
The Dems are crushing it in Texas right now .
  I'm going to go ahead and just call the house Dems win .




Every person of Hispanic decent in texas has already had relatives deported, or are worried they will be. The immigration crackdown has totally backfired, as has redistricting


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods] * 4
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This is a bloodbath. democrats just flipped the South Carolina senate seat.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/03/26 10:00 PM)

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