Baba Yaga said:

I have had mixed results with outdoor beds of subs so far which I think is
because I do use too little spawn and expand at a too high ratio which
gives competition the chance of taking a solid foothold when spawning
straight into a bed in the ground. This time around I will play it safe and
leave everything in planters and not do a bed.

I guess I need someone to tell me what a solid spawn to fermented and
pasteurized wood chips ratio is to start off? .....and from there I
think I read that doubling the volume once fully colonized is the way
to go forward?

Got some good looking silky growth and will be ready for the next part soon.

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Yes. Low spawn ratio gives competitors more time to develop.
Also, grainspawn. If you want to play it really safe you can consider doing an extra step in the form of grain to sterile wood chips. And then use that wood spawn for your patch, rather than grains, straight to pasteurised or fermented chips.

I like ridiculously high spawn ratios when I go this route, like 1:3. Because why not. High spawn ratio improves chances of first year fruits dramatically and using wood spawn rather than grain spawn also makes for much stronger foothold for the mycelium.
It's quite easy to expand wood 2 wood before spawn, for example like I did here:

Colonized bags of sterile chips, inoculated with half a jar of grain spawn.


These chips were only soaked for 2 days. No further treatment. 1 bag for 6 or 8 of these flower pots. I also did a leaky cement tub that ripped open at the bottom from frost.


This was so convenient and easy in fact, that I took some healthy myc from most of my 'important' patches and made a flower pot with each. I think this is a great way of having a backup of your patch:

Super easy. If you want an extra patch next year all you do is soak some chips and expand from your source flower pot into oblivion. Or if you move to another place. You just take your favorite patches with you 😀

Leftover Cyanescens pots fruiting.

Tweeq said:

Baba Yaga said:

I have had mixed results with outdoor beds of subs so far which I think is
because I do use too little spawn and expand at a too high ratio which
gives competition the chance of taking a solid foothold when spawning
straight into a bed in the ground. This time around I will play it safe and
leave everything in planters and not do a bed.

I guess I need someone to tell me what a solid spawn to fermented and
pasteurized wood chips ratio is to start off? .....and from there I
think I read that doubling the volume once fully colonized is the way
to go forward?

Got some good looking silky growth and will be ready for the next part soon.

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Yes. Low spawn ratio gives competitors more time to develop.
Also, grainspawn. If you want to play it really safe you can consider doing an extra step in the form of grain to sterile wood chips. And then use that wood spawn for your patch, rather than grains, straight to pasteurised or fermented chips.

I like ridiculously high spawn ratios when I go this route, like 1:3. Because why not. High spawn ratio improves chances of first year fruits dramatically and using wood spawn rather than grain spawn also makes for much stronger foothold for the mycelium.
It's quite easy to expand wood 2 wood before spawn, for example like I did here:

Colonized bags of sterile chips, inoculated with half a jar of grain spawn.


These chips were only soaked for 2 days. No further treatment. 1 bag for 6 or 8 of these flower pots. I also did a leaky cement tub that ripped open at the bottom from frost.


This was so convenient and easy in fact, that I took some healthy myc from most of my 'important' patches and made a flower pot with each. I think this is a great way of having a backup of your patch:

Super easy. If you want an extra patch next year all you do is soak some chips and expand from your source flower pot into oblivion. Or if you move to another place. You just take your favorite patches with you 😀

Leftover Cyanescens pots fruiting.

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When I started out I spawned about 1:20 - 1:25. Most of those beds fruited, but it took 18 - 30 months.

Influenced by Tweeq I layed out the subaer beds 1:4 last year and they fruited after six months, and very prolifical.

Also, I don't know how you built up those beds that didn't fruit for you. But digging away the topsoil helps a lot with competing mycelia. Established mycelia can overrun new sub very fast in some cases. By removing the layer in which you can expect them, your spawn has better chances of settling in. And once it's a thick mat it is way more likely to overrun the neighbors instead of vice versa.

Once you've got them running on chips, you can just keep expanding and keep making backups. Just a handful of leftover chips can be a bucketfull in a month. That bucket can build you a patch and two handfulls of chips for a couple of buckets next month, etc

PhenoDreamers said:

You might also need better genetics dude. I have a banger subaeruginosa. If you want a print, just let me know. Also, cool to see you back

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Bra said:

Great shrooms, guys! Has anyone managed to grow Ps. serbica? I haven’t yet. I’m wondering how it’s going with serbica on your end.

Though... This is Ps. cyanescens indoors. The experiment was successful!

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