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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pete Peterson]
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Pete Peterson said:
To a great extent thanks to China



No.
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/oil-consumption
More important China economy is slowing down because the housing market collapse. Other nations like loas are doomed with lack of energy security.

As to Russia invasion of Ukraine being the prefect time because Biden's weakness is correct.  Biden pulled out of Afghanistan because of his personal basis against that war. But to the world it showed the lack American military might and long term commitment. That's why the world put up with our wars and policy financial institutions because we "were committed " to helping our interests . It wouldn't matter if Dick Chaney had been elected in 2024, you can't put the weakness geney back in the bottle.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
More important China economy is slowing down because the housing market collapse.



Ghost cities were built to justify endless economic growth.

While simultaneously --
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People are living in apartments stacked with wooden boxes, known as "coffin houses," and sleeping in cages about the size of rabbit hutches.

The photos of these spaces are extreme and expose the harsh realities of a city with the highest levels of inequality in the developed world.



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When rural residents outflow, their land and residential sites often remain vacant due to strict transfer restrictions.





What is a logical way of explaining that.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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:lol: Personal bias? Do you think this withdraw was Biden's idea or plan?

Biden pulled out of Afghanistan because Dumpty had already signed the agreement, had already set it in motion, the draw down was substantially or nearly done by the time Biden took office, and most importantly dipshit Dumpty had already released over 5000 Taliban fighters who were closing ranks as the pullout continued.

Dumbo Dumpty most likely did this to sabotage Biden and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: HagbardCeline]
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:shrug: I don't believe in liberating territories and protectorates, which we have conquered and have become a national interest.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008] * 3
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durian_2008 said:
:shrug: I don't believe in liberating territories and protectorates, which we have conquered and have become a national interest.



Afghanistan was not conquered.  It was an unwinnable war because the US-installed government was not capable of standing up on its own to the Taliban insurgents.  The Afghan war was Vietnam 2.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: GerryD]
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GerryD said:
durian_2008 said:
:shrug: I don't believe in liberating territories and protectorates, which we have conquered and have become a national interest.



Afghanistan was not conquered.  It was an unwinnable war because the US-installed government was not capable of standing up on its own to the Taliban insurgents.  The Afghan war was Vietnam 2.



Could have made the arrangements to keep troops there like Germany and Korea forever.  It's a about keeping the idea of stability until 90 years when it could become stable.  It's called being an empire.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: HagbardCeline] * 1
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HagbardCeline said:
:lol: Personal bias? Do you think this withdraw was Biden's idea or plan?

Biden pulled out of Afghanistan because Dumpty had already signed the agreement, had already set it in motion, the draw down was substantially or nearly done by the time Biden took office, and most importantly dipshit Dumpty had already released over 5000 Taliban fighters who were closing ranks as the pullout continued.

Dumbo Dumpty most likely did this to sabotage Biden and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.



The hilarious part is that Trump gets screwed twice on the Afghan pullout. History remembers that Biden finished the war, then when yoe dig into the mess that it was, Trump gets credit for the that.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
GerryD said:
durian_2008 said:
:shrug: I don't believe in liberating territories and protectorates, which we have conquered and have become a national interest.



Afghanistan was not conquered.  It was an unwinnable war because the US-installed government was not capable of standing up on its own to the Taliban insurgents.  The Afghan war was Vietnam 2.



Could have made the arrangements to keep troops there like Germany and Korea forever.  It's a about keeping the idea of stability until 90 years when it could become stable.  It's called being an empire.



Do you just spew words without the slightest bit of insight? Seriously, have you read anything about the event or do you just let your bias and Dumpty's lies dictate your opinion on it?

TRUMPTY SIGNED the Doha agreement. It had a hard timeline for withdraw. TRUMPTY reduced military personnel from like 13000 to 2500 in the weeks before Biden's inauguration. TRUMPTY released twice as many militants as he left our soldiers there. TRUMPTY left no plans for withdraw or evacuation.

You can't even defend your position, you just switch to a new point (which is also wrong). Why do you refuse to blame Dumpty for anything?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: HagbardCeline]
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I dont see any reciepts, just words on a screen.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 3
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Per NBC

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Two senior U.S. officials tell NBC News that military commanders are allowing some Iranian missiles and attack drones to get through air defenses amid an effort to preserve the Pentagon’s shrinking supply of missiles to shoot them down.



The most incompetent people on the planet are running this country


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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They really blew their wad early by coming out guns blazing in the first week

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: GerryD]
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Who knew things would take this long?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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literally lol actively loosing brain cells reading this bs


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Edited by trepanationexprt (07/25/26 04:07 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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vietnam was right about cambodia


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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not only did the “great land of the free home of the brave” bomb a school and kill 150 children they triple tapped it because why would we spend our tax dollars in our own country?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: trepanationexprt]
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trepanationexprt said:
not only did the “great land of the free home of the brave” bomb a school and kill 150 children they triple tapped it because why would we spend our tax dollars in our own country?



Because if you divided the money between its people instead of war you get little to no benefit financially. But if you blow up an area then others by those weapons from you leading to jobs. If you want to go bullet point by bullet point on military spending and remove it "to spend on welfare" I'd be happy to break down how it wouldn't save most people and cause harm.  If your actually into that kind of thing.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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I’d say you’re just blatantly wrong. when you spend a majority of your ammo in the first year of a war how are you meant to manufacture more for yourself and others it’s insensible. That was 11 million for one girls school.It baffles me how you can try to explain it in a good way


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: trepanationexprt]
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And your wrong 27 million to bomb that school. It's  better to have civilians killed on accident then while killing warriors against you then none at all. As you again can disagree you can't even build a school in America for that amount of money.

You think when the hordes of enemies come to claim united states they will care about kill citizens here. Of course not,  never have and never will.

Let's say i take away the 1 trillion we spend on the military a year and divide it amongst the people, taken the fact the stranded of living would cost more like it has with increasing wages.
1 trillion ÷390 million people is 2564.10 dallors a year per person would that help even if i double section 8 budget, and food stamps and not even enough to fix roads. Where would you like to spend the money.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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Also, a trillion in cuts means 1 trillion less in income for people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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i guess i was wrong about the price i didn’t consider transportation and all that other pointless shit. you really buy that it was accidental after they hit it three times? man I want you’re smoking :lol:. iranian officials have said countless times this war isn’t against the american people  but american politicians who take aipac money (i trust them more than the us govt atp) that fear mongering has gotten to your brain you don’t see iranians saying kill all christian’s kill all americans thats usually just a zionist islamophobic christian thing .let’s say i take 4.8 trillion becuase who really wants to fund isnotreal anymore. only around roughly 1 trillion could be used to make 100 manufacturing start ups creating literally whatever without throwing peoples jobs away.it would be hard but it’s way better than exploiting the global south just to buy it “cheaper “ (which makes no sense youre not buying cheaper because consumers don’t have the jobs which were sent over seas:facepalm: read “arghiri emanuel’s unequal exchange” its a pretty good read)


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