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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Blizzloo] * 1
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Wait are we really giving such simple advise and people didn't think about this shit?

:lol:

Oh Lordy we're in trouble.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I need more autoclavable polycarbonate 90mm petri dishes!  Amazon is out of the ones I like (Viabooth), unless I want to buy a 500 pack, and I don't need that many.

Is anyone able to share a different, reliable source? 

I really don't want to use single use petri's, and glass is too pricey. I suppose I could suck it up and just get the 500 - and give away/sell some?  But I want to KIS (keep it simple).



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Eskawata kaya waikiki
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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Buy glass rather.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
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DERRAYLD said:
Buy glass rather.



Yeah I knowwwww.....but it's soooo expensive.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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Limit your work and it will help to improve focus as well.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
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DERRAYLD said:
Limit your work and it will help to improve focus as well.



Solid OG advice from an OG. You're right. Perhaps I'll suck it up and buckle down. :heythereyou:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said:
What kind of plates do you guys use. I need to order some and looked and they seem pricey. I need 20-50 plates for my aspirations I'd guess but I don't want to buy plates made of cheap material that won't survive long term use. Please point me in the right direction. I am so tired of pasty plates.



What's wrong with pasty plates? I have a giant collection of them and they seem to last forever. I'm playing around with using them for mini-grain masters these days, too.

Other than those, I also have a smaller collection of borosilicate petris. Ther are indeed the bee's knees. I was lucky to have them gifted to me, came from a university lab that was getting cleaned out. I'll probably buy a bunch more whenever I'm feeling not-broke.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Blizzloo] * 1
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Blizzloo said:
Good morning everyone

Can i use window cleaner instead of water with drop of soap to spray my SAB?
:notsureif:




Blizzloo said:
My question comes from this tek Bods sab tek
He's talking about spraying soapy water. Is this outdated information and nobody does it anymore?



Blizzloo said:
Thanks for all the contradictory answers :smile:
I'm also asking because I already have window cleaner in a spray bottle, and if I'm only supposed to use soap and water, I'll have to get an extra spray bottle, which will take a few days.

So if it's only meant to catch microbes, then perhaps the question should be, can window cleaner be harmful?

To be clear, I use ISO 70 and I use it a lot. I'm not asking if I can use window cleaner to sanitize or so, but if I can use it instead of soap and water.




Dish soap is basically just a surfactant. It breaks up surface tension and helps make water "more wet." It’s also a little sticky when it dries. It doesn't directly kill microbes or anything like that. Water with a tiny bit of dish soap in it will make smaller droplets when sprayed. Those droplets will take longer to fall through the air, trapping more particles in the process. The walls and floor of the SAB will be stickier and wetter as well. That's all we're trying to do- capture particles and keep them from floating around in the air.

Window cleaner is designed to evaporate faster. Any Alcohol will evaporate and create fumes. Same with Lysol, etc. 70% isopropyl, diluted with water, will get sucked into the cells of microbes and then make them burst. But that's got nothing to do with why we spray the walls of a SAB. Spraying with anything that creates fumes is going to be counter-productive. Fumes means more air currents, which could be moving particles around, when our goal is STILL AIR that makes particles just fall out of suspension.

But it's all relative, of course. We still need good technique when running transfers, because we're constantly introducing stuff that has contaminant particles on it. Our hands and arms, donor containers that have been sitting in open air, freshly sterilized containers that still need to pass through open air getting from the PC to the SAB, etc. It's always a numbers game.

That's why crazy motherfuckers like Kloakk can get away with running a dry SAB. Careful technique, a clean location, and a perpetually undisturbed SAB is all you REALLY need. If you're a crazy motherfucker like Kloakk, that is.

By contrast, window cleaner or iso or Lysol would arguably be WORSE than just doing transfers in a dry SAB. So, yeah. That would be your best bet if you really can't get ahold of another spray bottle: just run it dry and join the crazy motherfuckers club.

For what it's worth, though, I don't keep my iso in a spray bottle. I just use a repurposed water bottle with a sippy lid and slosh it onto a paper towel. Still need two spray bottles, though: one for misting the SAB, and one for misting the subs.


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Edited by B Traven (02/27/26 10:18 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 3
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B Traven said:
That's why crazy motherfuckers like Kloakk can get away with running a dry SAB. Careful technique, a clean location, and a perpetually undisturbed SAB is all you REALLY need. If you're a crazy motherfucker like Kloakk, that is.





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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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I think I have SAB Apnea.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind]
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Alright guize,

Going into desert weather my AC crapped out and might not get it fixed til Monday.

Highs in the high 80’s and might kiss 90 degrees F

Four tubs with mycelium eating the top pseudo. 3 sets of grains.

How fubared am I with temps like that for 4 days?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 1
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Theyre tropical
Species.  Youll
Be fine but dont choke it.  Make sure you have airflow or youre sure to trich out

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I did turn the ceiling fan on counter clockwise in the room.

Add a smaller fan pointed away?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Blizzloo]
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Blizzloo said:
That explains a lot.

Kloakk said:
you should be able to find a spray bottle with premade dishwash soap, that will work.



we dont have that in country I live, but no problem.

PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
If you're in a pinch, put the window cleaner in something else, rinse it out, and replace with soapy water



Thats also an idea. Thx




even more simple, get a paper towel, wet it, put a drop of soap on it, make it somewhat soapy, rub the walls of the SAB. Use it as the floore of the SAB laid out.


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Supplemented coir experiments< Currently ongoing spring 2026.

~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

Everything I have typed is purely fiction, and is purely for personal amusement.
All images I've posted are not mine and I am simply posting interesting things I found on the Google.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefExtreme said:
Theyre tropical
Species.  Youll
Be fine but dont choke it.  Make sure you have airflow or youre sure to trich out



:whathesaid:
Has happened to me a couple of times. Desert highs will only last for a couple of hours per day this time of year. I have seen them start to struggle if indoor temperatures are in the low 90s for more than a few hours a day, but they can take it for a little while.

If you can, place the tubs and jars on a tile floor in the lowest or coolest part of your home. You should be fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
I need more autoclavable polycarbonate 90mm petri dishes!  Amazon is out of the ones I like (Viabooth), unless I want to buy a 500 pack, and I don't need that many.

Is anyone able to share a different, reliable source? 

I really don't want to use single use petri's, and glass is too pricey. I suppose I could suck it up and just get the 500 - and give away/sell some?  But I want to KIS (keep it simple).





They'll pop up on ebay rarely

Or split a 500 pack with a few friends and you can have an excuse to send petris with genetics in them


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
Meh just use soapy water.

Let's not go back to days of lysol.



Oh I agree I'm just saying it would work.

Though on that note it's interesting how much techniques have evolved around taking stuff away with this.

Fewer materials, less cleaning, far less aeration and fertilization and humidifying and keeping warm.

... could you do "G"2G with a spent PF cake? I think most people have had substrate revive at least once in the compost. I'm not sure why I'm thinking about it except it's just a fun little ritual symbolism.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 2
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Nokumana said:
I need more autoclavable polycarbonate 90mm petri dishes!  Amazon is out of the ones I like (Viabooth), unless I want to buy a 500 pack, and I don't need that many.

Is anyone able to share a different, reliable source? 

I really don't want to use single use petri's, and glass is too pricey. I suppose I could suck it up and just get the 500 - and give away/sell some?  But I want to KIS (keep it simple).





Have you tried the 60mm ones? :smile:

I bought a lifetime supply of those and haven't looked back. (OK, OK, every once in a while I wish I had some bigger ones. But then I just pour a sleeve from the unfinished case of 90mm disposable dishes I have, the itch is scratched, and I remember why I actually do prefer the smaller ones.)

The 60mm dishes have some pretty nice advantages:

- They take up a lot less space
- Agar media goes a lot further (only about 10 ml per dish makes quite thick plates)
- Their size is perfect for a wide mouth mason jar. Quart jars are convenient because a whole 10-dish sleeve fits in one, but after a few rounds I switched to pints because they are more space efficient overall. I fit 8 in a wide mouth pint and usually sterilize and pour multiples of 5 jars (40 dishes, one 400ml batch of agar media). The poured plates can go back in the jars unwrapped. I used to try leaving uninoculated plates unwrapped in Ziploc bags but always fucked up handling them; never have I contaminated any in a pint jar, though I usually do use up a jar within a couple of sessions. I like to use a strip of parchment as a sling and keep them upright in an upright jar. Someone suggested skipping the parchment and stacking them on the lid, but I didn't like the stability of upside down jars and my fingers are too fat to grip the bottom dish to lift the stack - YMMV.

A culture does fill the plate a bit quicker, and you get less mycelium (about half) per plate. But I don't mind that because the plate is still usable for months if thick enough, and small wedges are fine for pretty much everything. (I can get about 5 smash wedges for trades/giveaways out of a plate - that small number is probably the biggest disadvantage for me. But it's easy to make more plates when planning something like that.)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Quik question. 



Why am i sucha dumbass??

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