Mr Piggy said:

Yeah, cut all that crap away from the arm holes.  The holes are supposed to be open so there is no billows effect from your arms moving while you work.  This is why a glove box is outdated and insufficient for what we do.  By making those tape covers or sleeves or whatever you are creating a billows effect that will turn it from a still air box to a moving air box.

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Mr Piggy said:

I wouldn't have side shelves, or store things in there, or use alcohol inside the box.  Doesn't matter if your torch is in there, have a box full of alcohol fumes and an open flame anywhere in the vicinity and you will experience what a lot of people here already have, a big woof and no eyebrows.  Sure wipe down your box before hand, wipe down plates and jars when putting them in, but leave the box there with the arm holes open so while the air in the box goes still and the particulates drop the alcohol fumes will vacate the box.

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Archespore said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Don’t work with an open flame in the SAB. It creates currents and if you’re working with ISO, bad idea. Develop a smooth flow and flame your tools outside the SAB.

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I'm not working with an open flame inside of the alcohol fumed SAB, I'm not a complete idiot. Thanks for the advice, lol.

I felt that I was rather specific with my question regarding the arm flap and insertion of my tool laden hand...

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Nokumana said:

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Don’t work with an open flame in the SAB. It creates currents and if you’re working with ISO, bad idea. Develop a smooth flow and flame your tools outside the SAB.

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I'm curious what your thoughts are about what I do. I have an induction coil sterilizer which I keep inside the SAB. I can heat the scalpel blade to red hot without removing my arms. I often keep a small jar of ISO inside the SAB also which I will drop my scalpel into when I need to put it down.

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Mr Piggy said:

Ditch the iso and keep that induction coil OUTSIDE of the box.  The heat is creating convection currents in the box, the alcohol is inflammable, and the iso is not required because heat sterilizing is what is keeping things clean.

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AZ Starman2112 said:

Archespore said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Don’t work with an open flame in the SAB. It creates currents and if you’re working with ISO, bad idea. Develop a smooth flow and flame your tools outside the SAB.

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I'm not working with an open flame inside of the alcohol fumed SAB, I'm not a complete idiot. Thanks for the advice, lol.

I felt that I was rather specific with my question regarding the arm flap and insertion of my tool laden hand...

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Sorry man, I didn’t understand what you were saying and definitely didn’t mean you were an idiot. However, stick around a while here and you get to see some crazy stuff. I spray down my box with ISO 1/2 hour before using it and when I’m done. I never work with ISO in the box though nor an open flame in the SAB or near the openings. But yeah as Piggy said, flaps aren’t really needed. Covers for the holes when the box isn’t in use or when you have plates setting and cooling is a nice thing to have.

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All good, brother. I was definitely being a partial idiot, I was working with ISO inside of the box. That's no bueno, I have since been educated. Fortunately I had enough good sense to only stick my hands inside of the bomb, instead of putting fire inside  

Sorry about the tone, I forget to write smiley faces sometimes and my words can seem ... Abrasive.

Thanks for sharing your methods.
Do you think the iso spray is necessary? Is it standard practice?

Also while I'm here:
I'm currently working with a Golden Teacher culture, seeking "uniform growth" here's how it's lookin'




QQ: is this growth uniform enough or should I take another transfer?

Archespore said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Archespore said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Don’t work with an open flame in the SAB. It creates currents and if you’re working with ISO, bad idea. Develop a smooth flow and flame your tools outside the SAB.

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I'm not working with an open flame inside of the alcohol fumed SAB, I'm not a complete idiot. Thanks for the advice, lol.

I felt that I was rather specific with my question regarding the arm flap and insertion of my tool laden hand...

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Sorry man, I didn’t understand what you were saying and definitely didn’t mean you were an idiot. However, stick around a while here and you get to see some crazy stuff. I spray down my box with ISO 1/2 hour before using it and when I’m done. I never work with ISO in the box though nor an open flame in the SAB or near the openings. But yeah as Piggy said, flaps aren’t really needed. Covers for the holes when the box isn’t in use or when you have plates setting and cooling is a nice thing to have.

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All good, brother. I was definitely being a partial idiot, I was working with ISO inside of the box. That's no bueno, I have since been educated. Fortunately I had enough good sense to only stick my hands inside of the bomb, instead of putting fire inside  

Sorry about the tone, I forget to write smiley faces sometimes and my words can seem ... Abrasive.

Thanks for sharing your methods.
Do you think the iso spray is necessary? Is it standard practice?

Also while I'm here:
I'm currently working with a Golden Teacher culture, seeking "uniform growth" here's how it's lookin'




QQ: is this growth uniform enough or should I take another transfer?

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Dj_karma_magnet said:

Is there a preferred hot plate/convection plate for running a 23 qt pressure cooker? My apartment has an electric stove and I heard it’s not preferred when using a pc. Doubt a plate would be much better but looking for some community input, don’t want to have to go to someone else’s house to sterilize my shit.

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cf7f36d6 said:

What's your typical time to go from agar to inoculated substrate to bulk substrate to fruit? I have some spotty notes on my process, but I think it's typically two to three months, maybe? I'm curious how I'm doing and if there's a reasonable way to speed it up. Maybe I just need more batches going in parallel, but I'd love to learn if there are better ways.

FWIW, I'm doing PC rye berries then mixing with coconut coir.

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Why do you want to speed things up? Trying to produce large amounts? You mention increasing the number of batches, but that only increases quantity. It doesn't reduce time.

I cultivate as a hobby, ( mostly c; ) so I prefer to have a little bit of something at each stage "so there's always something cool to look at" as a wise man once said. Like an assembly line you know? Once you have a jar or 3 of dried shrooms you're set for personal use lol. Time it better next time and don't run out!

But you're here for better answers so...

For me I'd say it takes 2 or 3 weeks to fully colonize a jar , then 3 or 4 weeks ish to fruit. Species, variety, and temperature can affect the timelines greatly.

If you want specifics, then I spawned to bulk some overdue jars of BV on December 28th and then harvested the chonky fruit in my signature on Jan 23rd... So 26 days. So yeah your 2-3 month estimate seems right to me.

Now if you wanna speed it up and that's your main priority, here's some things you can do:

-transfer your agar wedge as soon as you see it's clean
-use liquid culture
-keep your temps at the higher end of comfortable for cubes
-break and shake asap, use a smaller grain for more inoculation points

I'm sure there's more but that's what I got, off the dome.

Please keep in mind that if you start taking shortcuts, you will experience more failures. It's kinda like a tradeoff, the more you start min maxing this shit, the more fuckups you'll have as you test limits.

You gotta decide if it's worth it. I reckon most folks around here will tell you it isn't worth it but we all have different goals and motivations. I would not tell a newbie to do any of the things I mentioned up there , but you said you have some experience so... Do with that info what you will!

Now if you wanted the absolute fastest way to get mushrooms growing (and you've no soul, nor shame) and are willing to accept heavy losses I'd say get a 10cc LC syringe from a trusted vendor of a fast grower, say Ochras,  and buy yourself 8 AIO bags from amzn because you'll probably lose half of them, knock them each up with 1cc and throw em on top of your fridge. You're bound to get a mushroom pretty quick.

Best of luck, bud!

Archespore said:

All the cool kids are asleep.

Cheers!

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DERRAYLD said:

It's okay Kloakk, we aren't kids anymore.

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Oh man, you're not only telling me I'm not going to grow any taller, but that we're old as well What a way to start the day