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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hey everybody, I have a stack of reusable polycarbonate petri dishes and a bottle of agar that I need to restarilyze. From what I've read I figure I can do them both at 15 PSI for about 20 to 30 minutes. My plan would be to wrap the petri dishes in foil. After the run I'll cool the agar to 125° and pour the plates right away. Does that sound like a reasonable plan?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ikarus21] * 2
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Ikarus21 said:
They are really good at keeping terrariums free of mold, fungus and decaying matter/poop, which mean that pasteurized substrate could have a lower contam rate if it prevented any fungi or mold growing while storing, recollectig or drying, specially nutritious pasteurized substrate or even pc'd.
And since they decompose manure, it cpuld lead to a higher/faster absorption rate by our desired mycelium. One would need to get rid of 100% of them before spawning tho




This sounds to me like adding a really complicated extra several steps to curb a non-issue if good sub/casing prep + clean cultures are used.

Pasteurizing manure, straw, husks, peat, etc and combining with clean spawn in a fairly clean environment is already very effective and a reliable method for growing mushrooms. Mushrooms that like manure have no problem eating manure already.  I guess I just don't understand the proposed benefit...? I'm not saying there isn't a benefit that I can't see though and am not trying to discourage your exploration.

IME although a small animal species like springtails or micro mites may eat all the visible mycelium in an area like a terrarium, they also have biomes of their own and spread filamentous fungi, yeast, bacteria, amoebas, and nematodes all over the place by shitting and dying everywhere. Also, keeping a live breeding colony of extremely fast, jumping, micro mycelium predators anywhere near your grow area is playing with fire.

I do look forward to seeing your project though if you do it. I love springtails, and some of the biggest wild maitakes I find, the soil underneath is absolutely teaming with the cute little fuckers.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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Nokumana said:
Hey everybody, I have a stack of reusable polycarbonate petri dishes and a bottle of agar that I need to restarilyze. From what I've read I figure I can do them both at 15 PSI for about 20 to 30 minutes. My plan would be to wrap the petri dishes in foil. After the run I'll cool the agar to 125° and pour the plates right away. Does that sound like a reasonable plan?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: JuniperTea] * 1
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JuniperTea said:


First time with hillbilly pumpkin. These boys look ready to harvest? I've been having trouble finding good images of mature ones. These haven't changed much in probably a day or two now



If you want to, or you can wait a bit longer :cool: they'll probably get bigger too if you wait. They DO look lovely by the way! 🎃


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie]
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Is yeast in agar dead?

Been using the search engine. Seems like newer posts have moved away from it.

Trying to get my agar recipe a little more on point and just seems I’m getting to the point of too low. Think I ended up with something like an 8g agar 6g lme per 500 but would need to check notes.

Edit Wrong water amount

Edited by Splittinghairs (01/14/26 07:21 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 1
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I like what a little nutritional yeast does for the look of the cultures, but it's not really necessary. 2% agar (softer is annoying to work with IMO), 1.5-2% malt extract, 0.2% nutritional yeast if I use it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said:
B Traven said:
Yeah, if you can pull off a permanent SAB location, it's definitely a game-changer. Or, at least, it was for me.

Yeah, I know a valve is superior to a jiggle weight, but yah know, a Dodge Neon will still get you to work in the morning lol

With the way food prices are these days, I think just about anyone should be able to recoup their expenditures on a pressure cooker by doing some canning with it.



Depeneding on the unit, it's not difficult to change out jiggle weight for valve.

Jiggle weight still gets ya there. That what i had to work with first starting out way back when.

I've got an old aa915 that i bought on ebay for $60 many many moons ago thay i still use for all my agar and stuff. It came with an old valve closure on it versus a jiggle weight which was a lil surprising.

I eventually changed the old valve out to a new one from AA. Beacuse it was leaking pressure. I should probably change the gauge too but idk... something about the old look lol. The needle doesn't rest at zero anymore but at pressure it still seems fairly accurate: lol:





If you are in the US your County Agriculture center will test your gauge for free (at least mine does).
Oats forever :heart:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle]
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MycoKyle said:
cronicr said:
Idk I'm guessing not long enough lol, prolly can't breathe there's no extra agar it's not ideal for sure




Fuuuuuuuuck



Liquid Culture?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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In regards to using a sous vide to pasteurize substrate. Is it absolutely necessary to vacuume the bag first?

If not, will regular zip locks work? 

I've read about some using pillow cases.


Anyways just looking for a quick tips and tricks on pasteurizing substrate or casing with the sous vide..

Dos and donts and what's necessary or not plz.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Push the air out add a weight in the bag a ziplocks fine , pillow cases work as well but you end up stealing water and squeezing to.field capacity


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie]
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Thanks! This is my first time growing anything, and these guys were a surprise bonus to my purchase of GT lc. I think they look hilarious and I am kinda obsessed. I totally get why people get hooked on this hobby


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
Push the air out add a weight in the bag a ziplocks fine , pillow cases work as well but you end up stealing water and squeezing to.field capacity



... and if you push the air out while partially submerged, all the better.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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The yeast is dead, according to the expert (the TC without badge) it isn't even bioavailable. In order for it to be available it needs to undergo autolysis iirc. Kloakk himself will have to chime in on this one.

That being said, I also used nutritional yeast in my agar for a while. And liked it.

If you have live yeast on your plates you'll notice soon enough


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Edited by Churpee Choozle (01/14/26 05:46 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
You might already know this, but I want do add(for those who don't know) that just boiling spent yeast will not give much nutrients because they are biounavailable. It is however pretty easy to make the nutrients bioavailble. How? Autolysis.

What you need is a instapot, souse-vide, or other device that can hold the temperature at 50°C(122°F) for 24 hours. Yeast will die quite quickly at this temperature, but their enzymes will not. This releases the normal control a yeast would keep on these enzymes, allowing them to break down proteins, ipids, DNA, and other molecules not normally bioavailable in boiled yeast into a form which is bioavailable. This also breaks apart the yeast cell sufficientl to free all the nutrients.

It's how Lallemand makes Fermaid O.

[url=https://suigenerisbrewing.com/

Edit: I did it! I practically linked something!


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Edited by Churpee Choozle (01/14/26 06:00 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Just wanna try something different with the agar. Gonna do one last clone grow and see if I can get some yetis before I pack it up for awhile.

I saw 10g agar/ 7g lme/ and 2g yeast on the forums. Figured it should be good.

So take it regular nutritional yeast from the grocery works. Just not live?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
In regards to using a sous vide to pasteurize substrate. Is it absolutely necessary to vacuume the bag first?

If not, will regular zip locks work? 

I've read about some using pillow cases.


Anyways just looking for a quick tips and tricks on pasteurizing substrate or casing with the sous vide..

Dos and donts and what's necessary or not plz.



I’ll add to what cron & DV8 said. Don’t use thin ziplocks, only the thicker freezer style ziplock bags. Sous vide weights or stainless spoons from your silverware drawer is a good weight. For ziplock you can start to submerge open and zip them at the waterline to get all the air out. I would clip ziplocks to the side of the pot or container and not submerge the whole bag. That all being said, I have had ziplocks fail, and ruin an entire meal. Common? No. So why chance it.

Vac seal bags you can get cheaply from the Zon in multiple sizes. I’ve NEVER had one fail in a sous vide in the 12 years I’ve owned my sous vide.

As far as using a pillow case, I know it is done. But why have all those particles or whatever is gonna leach out of the pillow case running through your sous vide pump, heating element & thermostat? Especially since it is a fine cooking appliance. I’m gonna call an hard pass on that because it can’t be too good for the unit. And what ever leaches out, is now not in your substrate any longer. Possible micronutrients? For me I like pure clean H2O running through my sous vide. It keeps it clean and the only maintenance I have to is remove any calcium or lime build up. In 12 years I’ve only had to do that twice.

Also stay in smaller bags and amounts with your bags so they come up to temp quicker making the process effective. To give you an idea, this is a bag that contains about a quart and a half of sub I use for ATL7. The 90mm petri dish is for size comparison. It is a vac seal bag, no weights, proper field capacity, that I pasteurized at 160° for two hours back in August. It is still perfect. Good seal, proper pasteurization. It goes a long way. Hope that all helps Hip!




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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Nice im definitely thinking about getting a sous vide machine. Where do you get manure from I got Black Kow but been thinking about driving to a farm and asking the owner if I can get some and if they say no offer $5.

I mostly want it for 125F on agar media bottles. Im not certain that actual manure and Black Kow preform different but I can always test it. I was planning on oven pasteurization of Black Kow but the sous vide seems more accurate and won't dry it out.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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I pc'd some oats and nocced them up with king oyster but saw trich had got in after a couple of days(shit sab technique). I pc'd them again for about 20 minutes, reckon they'll be good to noc up again? I'm gonna try anyway so I'm soon to find out.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 2
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Splittinghairs said:
Just wanna try something different with the agar. Gonna do one last clone grow and see if I can get some yetis before I pack it up for awhile.

I saw 10g agar/ 7g lme/ and 2g yeast on the forums. Figured it should be good.

So take it regular nutritional yeast from the grocery works. Just not live?



Yes, nutritional yeast is made the same way Fermaid O is, autolysis. Fermaid O just has a different nutrient profile :rockon:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Maybe. I’ll see if the grocery has fermaid o. Just gonna be whatever nutritional I can find this go around.

My APE clone is taking its sweet APE time. I did the newb shit and dumped LC from someplace into grains for JF cause I was “dying” to have them and had spent my plates and am suffering the consequences of lazy by only getting one jar of JF to be clean.

It’s off in a shoebox and at day 10 and looking good. But figured might as well clone what I get and redo the grow PROPERLY.

But don’t need 50 plates for one grow. Got one swab of yeti left from a failed attempt so here we go!

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