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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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:lol:

Oh and BTW.. I was just kidding about scoring and snapping coir bricks. I don't want anyone to get hurt trying lol. I actually gave up years ago and just prep the whole brick. I pretty much pasteurize everything with a sous vide and left overs of anything tend to stay good for a very long time.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Proposition 122 said:
For reference, regarding an earlier conversation about boiling dry/remaining water...

I just PC'ed 5 quarts of oats (oats forever :heart:) in my Presto 23 quart PC. Started with exactly 3 quarts (12 C.) room temp water: 15mins at 17PSi at 5,000'. The water REMAINING in the PC was 8 Cups.
FWIW my PC checklist is below.
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□ Always use the canning rack and avoid the jars touching the sides of the PC to avoid the extra/uneven heat.
□ Pour 3 qts room temperature water into the PC along with 2 T. white vinegar. (If you will be PC-ing over 100-mins add another quart of water.
□ Prepare the oat jars, foil tent them, and place in the PC.
□ ALWAYS check the vent pipe and clean if needed. Seal up the PC (no Jiggle weight) and place on Medium burner.
□ Vent for 15:00. Start your vent timer when there is a steady stream of steam, NOT when it first starts to steam. Reduce the heat, if necessary, to maintain a steady moderate flow of steam. After venting for 15:00 add the jiggle weight.
□ Wait until the air vent cover lifts up and the correct PSI is reached. Then lower the temperature to maintain the desired PSI. Then start your timer.
□ When time is up turn off the burner and let it cool overnight. DO NOT remove the jiggle weight until you are ready to open the PC!


That's solid advice I didn't know about lot of that until recently.

I didn't know the weight is what helps set PSI until really recently. I ended up getting a eltronic presure canner that hits 15PSI and it said in the instructions to not have the weight on till it says its ok. I got one for 10PSI and one for 15PSI it says 15PSI can overcook stuff at my altitude but thats what I wanted anyway. I guess the 15 min is for trapped air so it heats all the air evenly is it possible that can cause warping starting with the weight on? :shrug: I think venting at the end introduces unsterile air with contamination with grain bags it seems more important.

Only thing I dont understand why the vinegar?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 2
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Helps prevent mineral build up. :thumbup:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
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CaptainTrips420 said:
I guess the 15 min is for trapped air so it heats all the air evenly is it possible that can cause warping starting with the weight on?


The purpose of venting is to purge all of the air out of the pc and have only steam remaining. Without doing this the gauge will read 15 psi but the steam itself will actually be at a lower pressure and will not be as effective.

Failure to vent won't cause damage to the pc. You warped yours because you tried to hit 20psi on a pc calibrated for 15psi and ran it dry.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: the_chosen_one]
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Thanks guys!

I cased when I S2B. I have ingeli, subtrops, and ochras I did that way. Should I have waited to case until after the sub colonized?

I see folks using jiffy mix as a casing. Do I have to pasteurize it?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Idk if this pic is good enough. But does this look healthy?

To me it looks like shit compared to other jars an I have 5 that look all like this. Same variety.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle]
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Lower right spot is weird. Nothing a smell test won’t fix


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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That’s agar but can I just crack it open and sniff


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle] * 5
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MycoKyle said:
That’s agar but can I just crack it open and sniff


I wouldn't, personally. You won't always smell contamination anyway. If it smells bad, it is bad. If it smells fine, it could still be bad. 🤷‍♂️

I dont bother with sniff testing anything unless I've never been with her before.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle] * 1
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MycoKyle said:
That’s agar but can I just crack it open and sniff


Smell it when you spawn to bulk, if it's bad it's trash, if not, it's just coir, send it, Thurman is right, it can still be shit, but again, it's just coir, you ain't that broke right :uhoh: I am and there is no shame in that either, I would send it and deal with the loss later :muppet:


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
Thanks guys!

I cased when I S2B. I have ingeli, subtrops, and ochras I did that way. Should I have waited to case until after the sub colonized?

I see folks using jiffy mix as a casing. Do I have to pasteurize it?


Well, your grain prep will be tested but it should be ok. I like to let things fully colonize before casing. Then it goes to fruiting conditions within 24 hours.. right away if I'm not being lazy like I was with some tamps this week lol.

I pasteurize everything.. even coir, so I would say yes. Even if I'm wrong. :lol:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
MycoKyle said:
That’s agar but can I just crack it open and sniff


I would send it and deal with the loss later :muppet:


Atta boy!
:highfive:

#brokepeople

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: the_chosen_one] * 2
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the_chosen_one said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
Thanks guys!

I cased when I S2B. I have ingeli, subtrops, and ochras I did that way. Should I have waited to case until after the sub colonized?

I see folks using jiffy mix as a casing. Do I have to pasteurize it?


Well, your grain prep will be tested but it should be ok. I like to let things fully colonize before casing. Then it goes to fruiting conditions within 24 hours.. right away if I'm not being lazy like I was with some tamps this week lol.

I pasteurize everything.. even coir, so I would say yes. Even if I'm wrong. :lol:


:whathesaid:

Some get away with not pasteurizing jiffy, but is that want you want to do? I mean, I can get away with telling my kids I'm tired, but is that my best? You are dealing with living beings here Gil. Give it your best, they will give back if you do :rockon:

the_chosen_one said:
Kloakk said:
MycoKyle said:
That’s agar but can I just crack it open and sniff


I would send it and deal with the loss later :muppet:


Atta boy!
:highfive:

#brokepeople


:highfive:


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Had it in a Martha where the humidity was too much and nothing was growing. Decided to keep the tent but ditch the humidifier. Wasn’t really planning on keeping this tub either since it’s been in fruiting conditions (APE) for like 2 months with not much growth. Assumed the tub was toast but just curious what this yellow stuff was before I tossed it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i]
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ihansterx4i said:
Had it in a Martha where the humidity was too much and nothing was growing. Decided to keep the tent but ditch the humidifier. Wasn’t really planning on keeping this tub either since it’s been in fruiting conditions (APE) for like 2 months with not much growth. Assumed the tub was toast but just curious what this yellow stuff was before I tossed it.


It wasn't the humidifier, with a martha, keep the humidifier, toss the tub.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Oh it was the bacteria causing the pooling?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
the_chosen_one said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
Thanks guys!

I cased when I S2B. I have ingeli, subtrops, and ochras I did that way. Should I have waited to case until after the sub colonized?

I see folks using jiffy mix as a casing. Do I have to pasteurize it?


Well, your grain prep will be tested but it should be ok. I like to let things fully colonize before casing. Then it goes to fruiting conditions within 24 hours.. right away if I'm not being lazy like I was with some tamps this week lol.

I pasteurize everything.. even coir, so I would say yes. Even if I'm wrong. :lol:


:whathesaid:

Some get away with not pasteurizing jiffy, but is that want you want to do? I mean, I can get away with telling my kids I'm tired, but is that my best? You are dealing with living beings here Gil. Give it your best, they will give back if you do :rockon:


Great advice, guys! Thank you!

I try to save time where I can so that's why I was asking. To save a step, ya know?

I think I can do a bulk run of pasteurized sub and casing material by portioning them out in vacuum bags. That way I can do a bunch at once for future use in the name of "efficiency".


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i]
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:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
Kloakk said:
the_chosen_one said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
Thanks guys!

I cased when I S2B. I have ingeli, subtrops, and ochras I did that way. Should I have waited to case until after the sub colonized?

I see folks using jiffy mix as a casing. Do I have to pasteurize it?


Well, your grain prep will be tested but it should be ok. I like to let things fully colonize before casing. Then it goes to fruiting conditions within 24 hours.. right away if I'm not being lazy like I was with some tamps this week lol.

I pasteurize everything.. even coir, so I would say yes. Even if I'm wrong. :lol:


:whathesaid:

Some get away with not pasteurizing jiffy, but is that want you want to do? I mean, I can get away with telling my kids I'm tired, but is that my best? You are dealing with living beings here Gil. Give it your best, they will give back if you do :rockon:


Great advice, guys! Thank you!

I try to save time where I can so that's why I was asking. To save a step, ya know?

I think I can do a bulk run of pasteurized sub and casing material by portioning them out in vacuum bags. That way I can do a bunch at once for future use in the name of "efficiency".


Too add to the good advice here, if those are the Ochras from me, just case with straight coir at spawn. I got killer flushes from the Ochras spawning to straight coir and then a 1/4” of coir on top. Ingeli I’m following some stuff in the Ingeli thread by TCO and skyfox who have been doing real well with them. You should definitely read stuff over there if you haven’t. I’ve used the jiffy mix mixed with calcium sand and pasteurized in small bags just to case ATL7s and that was after full colonization and letting the shoebox sit for a little over a month to grow stones. ATL7s will not fruit until you case them. You want a casing that will not colonize. At least that’s how I’ve learned it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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Thanks, AZ!

I did add coir at spawn. It is colonizing but it is that last one to finish out of 6 different tubs. The cubes being the first, Ingeli, Subtrop HVC, then Ochras. I'll pop over to the Ingeli group and have a peek.


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