tryptkaloids said:

^^^ yes

ladynightshade said:

The Ferryman said:

It really just depends on which path you would like to take. If you want to spawn to bulk then go with grains. If you want to do cakes then pf tek is the move. However since you seem to be struggling with agar work I would suggest you get a couple of pf tek grows under your belt to begin with. Totally up to you which way you go though.

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Yeah I think youre right. PF is probably the best way for me to begin and at least build some confidence with growing after all the hits I've had recently. Plus I have all the ingredients and tools already for a PF grow since I had prepared for that months ago, I just need to actually implement the practice.

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the_chosen_one PF Tek will have far less learned nuances if you follow the original Tek as close as you can and you are starting with a clean spore source. If I can ask, what is your spore source? Print or syringe?

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I have a cambodian syringe I was going to use and I also have some golden teachers in a spore print but Im not entirely sure how to transfer spore prints using PF tek. It looks like PF tek is syringe only.

I was thinking for my next spore purchase I'd use a liquid culture.

Edit: Mostly I just have a massive desire to really succeed at this. I'm learning tons of ways to NOT grow mushrooms, but I am looking forward to my first successful fruits.

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Buy the raw materials to do agar yourself while your cakes colonize. You'll learn a lot and be proud

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tryptkaloids said:

Its a game changer. Thrilled youre taking the step.

Imo growing without agar is like cooking meat without a thermometer.

It can be done, but if you want it perfect you gotta be able to have all the information in front of you

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tryptkaloids said:

Its a game changer. Thrilled youre taking the step.

Imo growing without agar is like cooking meat without a thermometer.

It can be done, but if you want it perfect you gotta be able to have all the information in front of you

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markh said:

toadking said:

QQ- On my last bigger grow I used a 1:4 Coir to Spawn ratio, it worked but due to the sub being too thin I was constantly having to mist. I plan to do another in the same tub with 1 1/2 bricks coir as opposed to 1 and already have my grain colonizing but it is insanely hard to break a brick of coir so how should I prep it or if I make 2 what should I do with the leftover?

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Or, you could use one of those new-fangled things called a saw to cut the brick in half.

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Even a hammer and chisel.
Or a jigsaw.
Or a food processor (don't tell the misses I said this)

SuburbanHerbin said:

Good morning Shroomery.  Happy holidays if that's your thing.

First, look at my first mushroom


QQ:
Should I be misting as needed to maintain tiny droplets on the surface of the verm at this point? I have the lid of the container flipped upside down for fresh air, and they seem to dry up if I don't lightly mist a couple times a day.


Thank you for any help.

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Chonker! Congrats! Doesn't hurt to mist lightly while peeking and talking to them lol. I'd probably flip the lid back over and leave it unclamped, see if you can get a little condensation on the sides of the tub. Lift the lid and air out briefly a once or twice a day if it's an unmodified. My only critique would be I like to see a little spikey fuzz here and there but that's pretty anal.

ladynightshade said:

tryptkaloids said:

^^^ yes

ladynightshade said:

The Ferryman said:

It really just depends on which path you would like to take. If you want to spawn to bulk then go with grains. If you want to do cakes then pf tek is the move. However since you seem to be struggling with agar work I would suggest you get a couple of pf tek grows under your belt to begin with. Totally up to you which way you go though.

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Yeah I think youre right. PF is probably the best way for me to begin and at least build some confidence with growing after all the hits I've had recently. Plus I have all the ingredients and tools already for a PF grow since I had prepared for that months ago, I just need to actually implement the practice.

Quote:

the_chosen_one PF Tek will have far less learned nuances if you follow the original Tek as close as you can and you are starting with a clean spore source. If I can ask, what is your spore source? Print or syringe?

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I have a cambodian syringe I was going to use and I also have some golden teachers in a spore print but Im not entirely sure how to transfer spore prints using PF tek. It looks like PF tek is syringe only.

I was thinking for my next spore purchase I'd use a liquid culture.

Edit: Mostly I just have a massive desire to really succeed at this. I'm learning tons of ways to NOT grow mushrooms, but I am looking forward to my first successful fruits.

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Buy the raw materials to do agar yourself while your cakes colonize. You'll learn a lot and be proud

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Will do. I'll work on that while I'm waiting for the cakes.
I know Agar isnt *difficult* to make but just adds more steps to the process. I just dont want to mess up these cakes. But if I do, I'll keep trying until success is learnt.

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Proposition 122 said:

markh said:

toadking said:

QQ- On my last bigger grow I used a 1:4 Coir to Spawn ratio, it worked but due to the sub being too thin I was constantly having to mist. I plan to do another in the same tub with 1 1/2 bricks coir as opposed to 1 and already have my grain colonizing but it is insanely hard to break a brick of coir so how should I prep it or if I make 2 what should I do with the leftover?

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Or, you could use one of those new-fangled things called a saw to cut the brick in half.

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Even a hammer and chisel.
Or a jigsaw.
Or a food processor (don't tell the misses I said this)

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Score and snap.

the_chosen_one said:

Chonker! Congrats! Doesn't hurt to mist lightly while peeking and talking to them lol. I'd probably flip the lid back over and leave it unclamped, see if you can get a little condensation on the sides of the tub. Lift the lid and air out briefly a once or twice a day if it's an unmodified. My only critique would be I like to see a little spikey fuzz here and there but that's pretty anal.

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Thank you for the tips, I'm stoked just to see a couple of them grow .  I flipped the lid back over, the tubs are unmodded & the room they are in is a little dry.

That larger one has its veil starting to break, wasn't ready at all for that! lol.  I had other plans today, but now its time to read about cloning

ihansterx4i said:

First time seeing this kind of mold/bacteria. Anyone know what it is?

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Are you referring to the blob like things? They look like primordia in a few of the picks, but fuzzy in the other lol. It's pretty wet in there and I think I'm seeing wet sub against the tub side or possibly tannins. My old eyes need help.

SuburbanHerbin said:

the_chosen_one said:

Chonker! Congrats! Doesn't hurt to mist lightly while peeking and talking to them lol. I'd probably flip the lid back over and leave it unclamped, see if you can get a little condensation on the sides of the tub. Lift the lid and air out briefly a once or twice a day if it's an unmodified. My only critique would be I like to see a little spikey fuzz here and there but that's pretty anal.

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Thank you for the tips, I'm stoked just to see a couple of them grow .  I flipped the lid back over, the tubs are unmodded & the room they are in is a little dry.

That larger one has its veil starting to break, wasn't ready at all for that! lol.  I had other plans today, but now its time to read about cloning

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Damn mushrooms and their interrupting shit.

Yeah, I run mostly unmodified and the room has electric heat so it's dry. Lid flipping doesn't work well in there but it's a viable option for air. Cubensis are fairly forgiving when it comes to lack FAE so I'd go in that direction instead if I were growing some lol.

Gilmour Hendrix said:

Are there varieties of actives that need to be cased after full sub colonization? Or is this an "as needed" situation?

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Off the top of my head the species I've seen not requiring casing are cubensis, subtropicalis and zapotecorum. I prefer casing everything because I like my rut. Most species will perform better with a casing layer IMO. Cubensis requiring it the least. * Wood lovers don't need it at all.

Churpee Choozle said:

Looks like Coprinus / Coprinopsis primordia from here. Why is the sub standing in water?

@Gil, yeah, pretty much everything. Cubensis doesn't need a casing, most of the woodlovers don't need one. Subtrops fruit without a casing if you let them. AFAIK the rest really wants one.

Edit: damn TCO, you probably type with like, a lot of fingers.

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All four

Shit that is a water line isn't it. I thought it was like a male bottom of the tub or something.

It's all in the village brother!