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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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very possible. thatd be a good test to see if its tools/technique vs the starting material. the fact hes workin in front of hood and flaming tools is what makes me think the latter

edit: no offense taken my friend! we're all jus tryin to help out. good to have differing opinions/ideas available

Edited by sloug (09/05/25 08:00 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Looks like a problem with technique rather than the method when the two members demonstrated decidedly different results.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug]
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Im sorry i love you guys but there is an obvious hole in the logic of thar hypothesis. 

i know how he could have solved this riddle you pose before it ever was.

i hate when i find myself beating dead horses i am sorry.  my eye just twitches when i see a good new member have these problems.



if we DO determine that the spore sources are bacterial, i think the swab streak technique you talked about is the way to salvage something.  me? id probably dump it all unless its something super special that cant be replaced. 

all i want right now is fahts charlie brown FUCK that is a beautiful culture, and i can all but guarantee, the spores he sends come clean as a whistle.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (09/05/25 10:41 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
Looks like a problem with technique rather than the method when the two members demonstrated decidedly different results.



We'll see.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i]
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ihansterx4i said:




There are two little white growths right at the water level. Is that contamination? The mycelium growing at the bottom seems nice and healthy.

Also I have a second jar of enigma that almost has no growth and the LC is cloudy. Is that contaminated?


contam :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tripdawg420]
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Do you guys save the caps after taking a print or trash em?

Got a nice print and decided to get a second print from a cap. But it’s getting wrinkly.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Lilgrower]
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Lilgrower said:
I’ll try to get better pics tomorrow, but I am a little concerned that perhaps spores from one of my various albino grows made it into my front yard? I know that once any type of shrooms growing outdoors tend to show very different characteristics from what we get indoors.




I stopped burying old sub early on in the hobby because I live in an area that never gets super cold and I don’t want to be ground zero for a shroom outbreak in my neighborhood.


Cant say for sure without a clear view of the gills, but i don't think Those are p. Cubensis.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 1
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Splittinghairs said:
Do you guys save the caps after taking a print or trash em?


Eat them

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Ps. I sounded like a robot when I took out all my personality from this post to make it short and to the point.. Lol.  Its still long.


Don’t do that! Don’t stop being you!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Should I or can i repasteurize CVG?

I have a bucket of CVG sitting in a room for about a month in 74-77 Fahrenheit, sometimes up to 80 degrees. I always use CVG that is weeks old until it is finished with no problems before, but it was in an airtight bucket and sitting in lower temps.  Im not totally sure if the bucket i have right now is totally airtight.

If I were to repasteurize it, should I pasteurize it like I do with peatmoss/verm casing layer? I just put it in mason jars with foil on top and put it on the stove with water in a pot and poke a meat thermometer through the foil to make sure it's at the right temperature. I only need around 1-2 quarts

I remember reading on here that someone just puts his substrate in ziplock bags or something and puts them in the dehydrator for a while at 140-160 degrees if he only needs a little bit of substrate.

I dont see any mold and the smell is different than I am used to because I am not at my house and I used different brands of vermiculite and coco coir. I have 2/2 successful grows so far with this substrate recipe with these brands,  just worried about how the bucket has just been sitting there in warmer temps and not really sure if the bucket is airtight since the lid is very easy to take off. The buckets i usually use is a bitch to take the lid off and also putting it back on


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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probably id toss it.  why untie your shoelace at the finish line? 

probably itd be fine but its just a matter of principal.

cvg is unneccesary for cubes. i just use coir bud.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Thanks

Yea i know, but im just too used to CVG lol

I guess i'll try straight coco coir once i run out of  verm and gypsum. Don't know the coco coir to water ratio though. I've seen multiple people say different things. I make my sub on the wetter side.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hey wondering if anyone could advise me on.
Got a tub that isnt fruiting in over 2 weeks (see my history), Im gonna just LITFA for now and start a new batch or two and wanted to know if humiodty and temp could have been the issue?

My room goes from about 20C at its coldest in the night upto about during the day 27C


I havent had anything to read the inside of my tub but id imagine the temps higher inside.

Would that temp range be too high and a possible cause for my tubs failure?
Is there a ideal i should be aiming for inside the tub?
I've read that FAE and water beading and evaporation matters more than a specific temp number or humidity number but if my temps too high to begin with then im sure thats not great either.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Jrey16 said:
Should I or can i repasteurize CVG?

I have a bucket of CVG sitting in a room for about a month in 74-77 Fahrenheit, sometimes up to 80 degrees. I always use CVG that is weeks old until it is finished with no problems before, but it was in an airtight bucket and sitting in lower temps.  Im not totally sure if the bucket i have right now is totally airtight.

If I were to repasteurize it, should I pasteurize it like I do with peatmoss/verm casing layer? I just put it in mason jars with foil on top and put it on the stove with water in a pot and poke a meat thermometer through the foil to make sure it's at the right temperature. I only need around 1-2 quarts

I remember reading on here that someone just puts his substrate in ziplock bags or something and puts them in the dehydrator for a while at 140-160 degrees if he only needs a little bit of substrate.

I dont see any mold and the smell is different than I am used to because I am not at my house and I used different brands of vermiculite and coco coir. I have 2/2 successful grows so far with this substrate recipe with these brands,  just worried about how the bucket has just been sitting there in warmer temps and not really sure if the bucket is airtight since the lid is very easy to take off. The buckets i usually use is a bitch to take the lid off and also putting it back on


Personal experience

I have a huge cooler for my CVG. I started with 6 bricks and used most of it but still had at least a bricks worth left.

As other jars came close to be I put dry bricks in to soften before I was ready to add the boiling water and CV parts.

I just keep cycling it like that. Adding bricks and stuff as I go. My cooler tends to keep all the heat for at least a couple of days at least as well. None of the later tubs have had contam.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Xegarus]
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Xegarus said:
Hey wondering if anyone could advise me on.
Got a tub that isnt fruiting in over 2 weeks (see my history), Im gonna just LITFA for now and start a new batch or two and wanted to know if humiodty and temp could have been the issue?

My room goes from about 20C at its coldest in the night upto about during the day 27C


I havent had anything to read the inside of my tub but id imagine the temps higher inside.

Would that temp range be too high and a possible cause for my tubs failure?
Is there a ideal i should be aiming for inside the tub?
I've read that FAE and water beading and evaporation matters more than a specific temp number or humidity number but if my temps too high to begin with then im sure thats not great either.


Your high end temp is dangerously high. It’s 27 Celsius outside so the inside of that tub is definitely in the “let’s breed bacteria and kill mycelium” range.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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Sorry to sound dumb, but besides turning on the AC and hoping to reduce the ambient temp(which is expensive as hell for me in the UK), is there any "easy" or reliable way to get the tempreture down inside the tub without moving the tub elsewhere?

Or do you think it mioght be best for me to try again in a month or two when temps are lower?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Xegarus]
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Xegarus said:
Sorry to sound dumb, but besides turning on the AC and hoping to reduce the ambient temp(which is expensive as hell for me in the UK), is there any "easy" or reliable way to get the tempreture down inside the tub without moving the tub elsewhere?

Or do you think it mioght be best for me to try again in a month or two when temps are lower?


I would let this one ride out but if you can’t get AC temp down then might be stuck for a couple months.

Maybe open tub fruiting? Then the temp isn’t stuck high in there.

But with the stall who knows what nasties MIGHT be growing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Xegarus]
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Xegarus said:
Sorry to sound dumb, but besides turning on the AC and hoping to reduce the ambient temp(which is expensive as hell for me in the UK), is there any "easy" or reliable way to get the tempreture down inside the tub without moving the tub elsewhere?

Or do you think it mioght be best for me to try again in a month or two when temps are lower?


The Old reliable is to put the tub in the refrigerator for a few hours or even overnight. It's one of those things that can't hurt and I've seen it make the pins pop but I have no scientific testing to prove that it does work.

Add it to add one other thing- since you have been relying on moisture to keep things pushing along check the bottom of your tub. If you have any standing water drain it off by tilting the tub or perhaps dabbing it with a tissue or paper towel. The bottom of the tub should look moist. If it does look dry might be time to consider bottom watering by simply pouring a couple of ounces of water down the side of the tub.


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Edited by el53 (09/05/25 11:53 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Xegarus] * 2
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Xegarus said:
Sorry to sound dumb, but besides turning on the AC and hoping to reduce the ambient temp(which is expensive as hell for me in the UK), is there any "easy" or reliable way to get the tempreture down inside the tub without moving the tub elsewhere?

Or do you think it mioght be best for me to try again in a month or two when temps are lower?


Fill a tub with water and hang a towel in the tub, setup a fan to blow through the wet towel.

The towel will wick up the water and the fan will  blow through the wet towel which will cool the air.

Edited by DERRAYLD (09/05/25 12:16 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Personally I reserve a quart jar in the refrigerator when I make mine. A lot depends on the climate where you live. We are just out of Summer where I am and honest to God summer is just awful for trichoderma spores everywhere here. I know people say it can't grow in cor but it can. There's a low nutrition substrate but it is not without any nutrition and it's the pH that usually keeps trich from growing. When we leave in water we lower the pH taking our cor the happy place for that particular pathogen. Personally I stick extra cor into a silicone bag and PC for 2-3 hours before use during the summer. A lot of what we say is dependent on the climate where you've done these things so there's no one solution answer.


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