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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Not sure if that helps or not.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
I do the streaking and probaly I feel like most around here do it  for the reason Roscoe said exactly. But I don't do all the multiple flaming and stuff like that. I just simply do one zigzag down the center of the plate just to spread out what's clean from not clean just a tiny bit.

This way it's less complicated. You only lift the lid once and torch once and it's noob friendly.

Like this.





Uhh, hold the damn phone, my plates from streaking a spore syringe or spore print look nothing like these glorious things. Mine look like I stir fried shit and sprayed it onto the plate with a mister.

Three examples, all done in front of a hood with sufficiently good sterile technique that I've piles of clean plates (quite a few of which are pictured above in this thread). Fresh loop for each plate, flamed, cooled in front of the hood, then (admittedly messily) used to streak.

First two are from a vendor spore syringe, which I shook like I had parkinsons, then dripped from the dispensing tip onto the edge of each plate, and then streaked it across the plates in one shot. I don't remember if I changed loops between plates for these, or flamed between them...



The last is from a spore print sent to me in the mail. In front of the hood, opened it, used a scalpel fresh from the sterile packaging to scrape the foil a couple times towards the edge of a plate until I saw some black bits fall, then [again, messily] streaked it around with a fresh loop.



I already got a couple transfers off the first plate that just started growing on the new plates. Looks like a dodged all the contam but needs more time to really know. But... I want streak plates that look like yours. What on earth are you doing differently that I can replicate??


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
Like adding Peptone to agar. There are a lot of old posts here talking about doing that. But peptone is food for bacteria, not needed for shrooms, and increases the chance of bacteria out competing shroom mycelium.



Well, fuck. There's another thing I'm doing wrong then, lol.

[Goes to throw away the packet of peptone]


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Synack]
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I’ll try to get better pics tomorrow, but I am a little concerned that perhaps spores from one of my various albino grows made it into my front yard? I know that once any type of shrooms growing outdoors tend to show very different characteristics from what we get indoors.




I stopped burying old sub early on in the hobby because I live in an area that never gets super cold and I don’t want to be ground zero for a shroom outbreak in my neighborhood.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Lilgrower]
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"I stopped burying old sub early on in the hobby because I live in an area that never gets super cold and I don’t want to be ground zero for a shroom outbreak in my neighborhood. "

Expanding the network in every city park with a creek or a river is a life goal for me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: el53]
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Curious about everyone’s thoughts on brown rice for spawn grain. Im in the middle of my first grow (pins are coming up!), and used brown rice as my grain of choice (pressure cooked jars, not that uncle Ben’s bullshit). However, as I’ve been doing more research, it seems like a small minority of cultivators here use brown rice. Is it truly inferior to a grain like rye or millet? :ape:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: swankyorclord] * 1
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If you can afford it and are good at using it fly at it there's nothing wrong with it , some find it expensive as it is a food grain, some find it starchy and hard to expand but if that's not your case you'll grow plenty of mushrooms with it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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callmehippie said:
Also lots of us around here are on the Spectrum in one way or another. And long detailed explanations kind of comes with the territory.



Hey! I resemble that remark. Though some are further down that line than me.

I actually had someone get FURIOUS at me here a few years back, on the public forum, because I use a lot of separate short paragraphs to make things more clear.

Like this.

Hey, it beats the common alternative of run-on paragraphs where someone types 700 worlds with no line breaks or indentation.

This guy was getting mad because my writing style made his brain twitch.

I just try to make my posts easy to read.

I do often re-read them before posting, out loud in my head, and / or edit them right after posting if I see a typo, or a way to make something easier to understand.


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Edited by nektar61 (09/05/25 03:15 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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Fellas, what's causing this? I have it on multiple grows, different culture's ... To high humidity?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Synack]
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Synack said:
callmehippie said:
I do the streaking and probaly I feel like most around here do it  for the reason Roscoe said exactly. But I don't do all the multiple flaming and stuff like that. I just simply do one zigzag down the center of the plate just to spread out what's clean from not clean just a tiny bit.

This way it's less complicated. You only lift the lid once and torch once and it's noob friendly.

Like this.





Uhh, hold the damn phone, my plates from streaking a spore syringe or spore print look nothing like these glorious things. Mine look like I stir fried shit and sprayed it onto the plate with a mister.

Three examples, all done in front of a hood with sufficiently good sterile technique that I've piles of clean plates (quite a few of which are pictured above in this thread). Fresh loop for each plate, flamed, cooled in front of the hood, then (admittedly messily) used to streak.

First two are from a vendor spore syringe, which I shook like I had parkinsons, then dripped from the dispensing tip onto the edge of each plate, and then streaked it across the plates in one shot. I don't remember if I changed loops between plates for these, or flamed between them...



The last is from a spore print sent to me in the mail. In front of the hood, opened it, used a scalpel fresh from the sterile packaging to scrape the foil a couple times towards the edge of a plate until I saw some black bits fall, then [again, messily] streaked it around with a fresh loop.



I already got a couple transfers off the first plate that just started growing on the new plates. Looks like a dodged all the contam but needs more time to really know. But... I want streak plates that look like yours. What on earth are you doing differently that I can replicate??



You wanna take this one beef? :rofl:
Jk.

It could just be those cultures aren't that clean to begin with.:shrug:

For wedges.

Flame loop. Dip loop into receiving  plate to cool.

Use loop to scoop some agar.

Then streak. I zig zag don the center. Giving my some some room from the edges of the plate. 

Or I somtimes i also use a sterile swab. For smashed agar recived In the mail. Just dip and streak.

For spores

Flame Loop. Dip in receiving dish to cool. Scrape print. Streak in the same fashion.

I also use swabs. scrape  print and stresk. I've never had any issue doing this dry.

For MSS, LC, or LI.

Flame loop. Cool loop.  drop a small amount of the liquid from syringe onto the loop. Then streak.

Or dip swab/loop  and streak.  Ex. I recently used a swab/loop and dipped it in a cryovile and then streaked the plate with it.

The cleaner you're inoculant the better your chances. I believe in you


Good luck.
🤖




Ps. I sounded like a robot when I took out all my personality from this post to make it short and to the point.. Lol.  Its still long.

Edited by callmehippie (09/05/25 05:00 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Seems your out of the package tools need to be flamed.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Some of these look pretty rhizomorph (if I have the name right). I mean they look pretty willing, right? In the jars thy weren't and were actually really slow. Probably because I had some of them on SWFP and coir, both with more or less grain as well. Anyways, after about 4 months in jars, I put them on coir, and this is how they look. This looks promising, yes? Are these good ones to clone? They are all 10 days in the shoebox now.








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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23]
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koma23 said:
Fellas, what's causing this? I have it on multiple grows, different culture's ... To high humidity?






Mushrooms do weird things, but typically split caps are a sign of less than ideal humidity. Other than a bit of dialing in on the tubs it’s really nothing to worry about.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: OLDDAD77] * 1
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Split caps can be genetic or environmental.

If you see it as a genetic expression then it will be naturally occurring with each flush.



These phobos always split, nothing changes that.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: OLDDAD77]
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OLDDAD77 said:
koma23 said:
Fellas, what's causing this? I have it on multiple grows, different culture's ... To high humidity?






Mushrooms do weird things, but typically split caps are a sign of less than ideal humidity. Other than a bit of dialing in on the tubs it’s really nothing to worry about.



Tnx. I'm not really worried about it, but as it's happening to a about a quarter of my tub's I'd like to figure it out.

The caps aren't just split, they are black, looks like they're rotting or something ...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Synack] * 1
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Synack said:
callmehippie said:
I do the streaking and probaly I feel like most around here do it  for the reason Roscoe said exactly. But I don't do all the multiple flaming and stuff like that. I just simply do one zigzag down the center of the plate just to spread out what's clean from not clean just a tiny bit.

This way it's less complicated. You only lift the lid once and torch once and it's noob friendly.

Like this.





Uhh, hold the damn phone, my plates from streaking a spore syringe or spore print look nothing like these glorious things. Mine look like I stir fried shit and sprayed it onto the plate with a mister.

Three examples, all done in front of a hood with sufficiently good sterile technique that I've piles of clean plates (quite a few of which are pictured above in this thread). Fresh loop for each plate, flamed, cooled in front of the hood, then (admittedly messily) used to streak.

First two are from a vendor spore syringe, which I shook like I had parkinsons, then dripped from the dispensing tip onto the edge of each plate, and then streaked it across the plates in one shot. I don't remember if I changed loops between plates for these, or flamed between them...



The last is from a spore print sent to me in the mail. In front of the hood, opened it, used a scalpel fresh from the sterile packaging to scrape the foil a couple times towards the edge of a plate until I saw some black bits fall, then [again, messily] streaked it around with a fresh loop.



I already got a couple transfers off the first plate that just started growing on the new plates. Looks like a dodged all the contam but needs more time to really know. But... I want streak plates that look like yours. What on earth are you doing differently that I can replicate??



i rest my case

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: el53]
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Synack,

u arnt doing anything wrong. your print/syringe seem to be lousy with bacteria. suggestion: sterile swabs when streaking prints. you can spread the spores accross multiple plates with a single swab. similarly with with a syringe, just a drop on the end of a swab then get to swipin'

good luck

        :sunny:
:boombox2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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i dont think so.  i bet the syringe is fine as they mostly are and im guessing the member print is even finer. so lets see if we can get snyack to test this for us.

I didnt want to make that post any longer but thats exactly what i was talking about yesterday. 

i do not think he would have had all that bacteria from a vendor syringe had he just skipped this whole streaking thing and kept it simple. 

but lets say there IS bacteria present in both the syringe and print, however unlikely it is:  now that he's followed instructions and made an absolute bacterial mess by zoro'ing it all over the pitch, hes wasted what five or six good plates and MAYBE gotten one clean transfer, if he is both lucky and might i say, very skilled! (so good job on that bud.  seriously.  i just feel bad that you had to go through this gauntlet to get a good culture anc call yourself proficient with agar)

santizie the syringe with iso.  flame your needle, then go into the sab. squirt a drop to cool the needle. 

left hand opens the plate a just a crack while the  right hand puts a few drops in the center of the plate.  close the plate with the lid thats STILL in your left hand.  put the syringe down and wrap the plate. 

thats it.  thats the job.  i always do two plates but i never needed the second. 

if that grows bacteria, throw the syringe away and never buy from that vendor again. 

this streaking thing man.. im telling you.  i can get down with a little zoro Z once a guy has a good grip on work flow but i still think its a silly vector.  the guys who are getting really nice patterns are clearly getting the hang of a good work flow though ill give it that much.

there is no way to streak even at a minumum without leaving a plate spreadeagle while both hands leave the sab and re-enter and you'll never convince me that its "better" in terms of contamination.

im not even going to talk about this again.  im just going to change the hhg and ill talk about it on a podcast or whatever.

Edited by BeefExtreme (09/05/25 07:47 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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and no offense slough.  youre a solid dude i just disagree although i will say, the sterile  swab technique is a lot better than flaming the stupid loop.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: swankyorclord]
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swankyorclord said:
Curious about everyone’s thoughts on brown rice for spawn grain. Im in the middle of my first grow (pins are coming up!), and used brown rice as my grain of choice (pressure cooked jars, not that uncle Ben’s bullshit). However, as I’ve been doing more research, it seems like a small minority of cultivators here use brown rice. Is it truly inferior to a grain like rye or millet? :ape:



As someone who did broke boi for more times than I like to admit, I’ll say brown rice is definitely inferior.

The hydration level was always an issue.

Making break and shake more of a challenge than need be.

I’ve had some questionable grows with brown rice.

Rye berry (for me) is amazing and way better and easier. Especially if you follow something like the 10/10 tek

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25047342

With brown rice I remember constantly committing domestic violence with the jars for BnS. With Rye I shake before inoculation, when I get to near 50% (even at 100%) just need a couple palm strikes and then when I start shaking it all crumbles easy and that’s even using an instapot for sterilizing for 3 hours and leaving in the instapot while I sleep.

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