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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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That's the only thing I can think of that's different from the last time I did this without any issues. That the water in the pot was getting hot before I put the actual agar in. 

I wonder if this doesn't allow  to emulsify properly and the agar stays in sort of a denser mass of  gel surrounded by water



Taking my son outside to play. Then I'll be redoing them. I'll let y'all know how it goes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Oyeah everything goes in to the pan cold, I should have specified.  I use grain water, add agar, turn on the heat and stir once I see bubbles.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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oh you blended it? man i have no idea.  this should have worked.  maybe boil longer like i say until its nice and homogenized.

i have a feeling you might realize your error as youre trying again. 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: kingboomer]
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Just curious. to anybody's knowledge agar doesn't benefit from  like gelatin needs to be bloomed? Does it. If that even makes any sense.

I know they're two completely different things. It just popped in my mind. so I'm asking.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: kingboomer]
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I stir constantly

Cooking crack is a lot similar

What did master p say 1g of baking soda every 7g of coke

I stop and turn off heat/continue mixing and then remove from heat when the mix becomes viscous and u can see a sheen form on the surface it becomes less clear and more shiny and becomes pretty thick pretty quick after that point

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40]
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It doesn't really need bloomed but it needs fully wetted and like beef said it will become hygrophobic and form a outer shell with dry powder inside of it they becomes a pain in the ass but not impossible to homogenize after that point

It can still happen with any temp water but it always happens when you add hot or boiling water to dry agar

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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I use whatever agar I can get my hands on. Sometimes it's the full-on strands that I have to cut with a knife in order to fit into the pot, and then cook until I can't see the individual strands anymore. Sometimes it's whatever powder they had at the Asian Grocery. I stopped measuring amounts a long time ago. I just add my agar and water and whatever basic-ass ingredients I'm using, and bring it slowly to a boil. Stir it a little to keep from sticking to the bottom of the pot. All of this in an extremely passive and distracted manner, usually in and out of the kitchen the whole time.

I let it cool down in the pot to see if I like the consistency. Then I reheat it, either adding water or boiling some off or just trying to get it back to liquid depending on how I liked the set in the pot. Then pour into plates, let cool, and load into the IP.

It's all a very end-of-the-night, I'm-too-tired/stoned-to-do-anything-else sort of activity.

My only real point here is, it shouldn't be hard. And it certainly shouldn't require the immersion blender.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Any ideas why my agar wouldn't have set properly?

I did 5gs lme×10g agar× 500ml

I poured them and went to bed came back and they looked like they were set but then once you move them around. Some like  a "broken sauce" a  watery jelly. And some are kind of like apple sauce consistency.

The applesaucey ones had a lot of sediment and stuff when I poured. The other ones had almost none.

I'm thinking maybe for some reason everything didn't emulsify properly in the pot?






The only thing I can think of that might have been a little bit different than last time. I put my pot of water on the stove dissolved the lme.

Then I turned on the heat low weighed.  out my Agar and added that. So the water was just a little bit warm. I don't know if that makes a difference or not?


When I put everything in the pot how long does it need to stay on the stove?

Does it need to come to a boil or does it just need to be nice and hot for a certain amount of time before I take it off?


Im about to redo them now.


Ps. Not telephone brand



i reckon u just measured wrong home dog. like a woopsie. everything else sounds normal. the brand shouldnt matter

edit: just reread ur post. pretty sure u gotta heat that shit up to like 190 at least for the agar to melt into the water fully. or react with the water or whatever

edit again: wait im confused. ur pouring to solidify in the petri then ur gonna pc it after? u might be able to just toss em in the pc then they will do their thing and set proper as they cool in the pc. u can reheat agar media no problem.

Edited by sloug (09/02/25 08:42 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sloug]
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I am trying to streamline my agar production. I poured 20 plates last time. Put my dry ingredients in a pyrex measuring cup. Heated the water in electric kettle to hard boil. Poured a little at a time while whisking the tits off of it. Let cool with lids off before PC. 1.5% MEA.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Anybody got any Enigma experience?
ISO to Rye(Yoshi’s low prep style), to bucket tek to CVG. 19L tub (easy dial style). Uncovered holes for fruiting on 8/24.

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I kno these things are slow just curious how progress look so far.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: lostsoul1976]
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pretty blurry picture but it appears to appear ok.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 1
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B Traven said:
I use whatever agar I can get my hands on. Sometimes it's the full-on strands that I have to cut with a knife in order to fit into the pot, and then cook until I can't see the individual strands anymore. Sometimes it's whatever powder they had at the Asian Grocery. I stopped measuring amounts a long time ago. I just add my agar and water and whatever basic-ass ingredients I'm using, and bring it slowly to a boil. Stir it a little to keep from sticking to the bottom of the pot. All of this in an extremely passive and distracted manner, usually in and out of the kitchen the whole time.

I let it cool down in the pot to see if I like the consistency. Then I reheat it, either adding water or boiling some off or just trying to get it back to liquid depending on how I liked the set in the pot. Then pour into plates, let cool, and load into the IP.

It's all a very end-of-the-night, I'm-too-tired/stoned-to-do-anything-else sort of activity.

My only real point here is, it shouldn't be hard. And it certainly shouldn't require the immersion blender.



Since you let it solidify in the pot first, you could skip remelting, slice it up equally like a pizza and put the pieces on the plates.:shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
There is so much science in brewing a great beer, not just a beer. You seem to know what the fuck you are doing and I wish I lived near you so I could taste your brews! 🍻



Thanks man :hatsoff:

I think brewing a good beer can be achieved by most if one is willing to learn some basics and(unfortunately) get some gear, but it doesn't have to be expensive. In my view a fermentation fridge is one of the most important brewing equipment to make good beers.

Some yeasts are more forgiving then others, but they can all ruin a beer real fast if they are taken out of they're temperature comfort zone.

Another is oxygen, you could do everything right, mash, boil, ferment and when it's time to bottle, expose the beer to oxygen and within 2 days you're straw yellow
hazy neipa goes from tasting like a basket of different fruits to a brown sludge tasting like old tea bags and cardboard, so a pressure fermenter and a keg to do closed transfer is a game changer, even for beers that are not hop forward(hoppy beers oxidize so fast) a closed transfer will increase shelf life by months.

But hey, I've done lots of tasty beers fermented in a bucket on the floor of my man cave too. Cream ale(lawnmower beer) is an excellent option for doing just that :toast:



That’s amazing! It’s all above me though. Wife and I are or were real big beer snobs. Been to hundreds of breweries. We used to travel just to go to breweries and bbq joints. Friends always asked me… “Why don’t you brew your own beer?”.  Basically, they knew I could cook, and my bbq game is better than most bbq joints as well as my jerky, pickle & sauce skills. My answer was always, “I have too many hobbies, so I’ll leave brewing beer to the professionals and just drink theirs!”

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight]
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Hippie, was it all the plates or just some?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40]
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catnip40 said:
I stir constantly

Cooking crack is a lot similar

What did master p say 1g of baking soda every 7g of coke

I stop and turn off heat/continue mixing and then remove from heat when the mix becomes viscous and u can see a sheen form on the surface it becomes less clear and more shiny and becomes pretty thick pretty quick after that point




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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All the plates.  The first half poured were the watery jello consistency. The second half were the ones that ended up with a lot more sediment from the bottom of the pitcher I was using and those ones ended up like applesauce.

Upon first glance everything looks okay but then when you pick them and movevem a bit it quickly breaks and loses extra structure


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I mean technically I could just pour and then go straight to the PC with them but then if I would have done that I wouldn't have noticed this issue until wasting all that time and energy with the rest of the process. That's the only reason I'm letting them set up first


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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New brand?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
pretty blurry picture but it appears to appear ok.



Shit! 13hr work day, weed, beer, phone camera, nothing good can come from that.
Sorry bout that. Hopefully this is better. Put the phone on a stand😋


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Nope.  Only brand I've ever had. Actually this will be my third time making it. First two times went off without a hitch. Everything was done  time with the same ingredients. That's definitely confusing me.

Only thing I can try different that was different this time.  Is making sure everything is cool and mixed before turning on the heat. And then heating for longer.

I should be able to pour, come back 15 minutes later and check and it should all be set up the way it supposed to be right?


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