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#29328682 - 08/29/25 02:23 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

catnip40 said:

1. spore germination of (n) haploid, monokaryotic, primary mycelium
2. hyphal anastomosis between two compatible monokaryons and they fuse
3. plasmogamy occurs (mixing of cytoplasm) nuclei migrate but do not fuse
4. resulting in dikaryotic state, vegatative, secondary mycelium (n+n)
5. dikaryotic mycelium produces basidiocarps (fruit bodies, tertiary mycelium) where karyogamy (fusion of the nuclei) occurs inside the basidia and creates a diploid cell (2n)
6. meiosis follows and new haploid (n) genotypes are created

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#29328685 - 08/29/25 02:29 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Tweeq said:

Outboard said:

My shoebox literally exploded with pins. The sub consists of one quart of spawn and 1.5 quarts of coir. I added water according to Beef's formula: weight of coir in grams x 4.25 = water in milliliters. It's been three days since the first pin appeared. But what should I do with so many pins? Should I try bottom watering?

Should be enough h2o in there to support the flush. I would LITFA.
And congrats! Looks great.

The pins look healthy but alot of times when you see insane pinsets it can be in response to something and theyll all abort. Let us know how it turns out.

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#29328700 - 08/29/25 03:12 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

QQ - I’m going to spawn a shoebox of Bluey Vuitton to coir in a couple days. I can’t find too much info on whether or not it’s prone to blobbing. Should I treat it like PE or more like a regular cubensis?

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#29328736 - 08/29/25 05:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

In my limited experience, nothing is as picky as PE

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#29328760 - 08/29/25 06:41 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

tryptkaloids said:

In my limited experience, nothing is as picky as PE

I dont understand why people bother with PE when melmac exists and doesn't require the special care.

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#29328770 - 08/29/25 07:11 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Melmac is homestead

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#29328773 - 08/29/25 07:12 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Wasnt a thing when i grew pe.
(atleast in my world, someone tried telling me melmak was before pe recently but idk)

Cubes have personalities.

PE wants to be my therapist.

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#29328777 - 08/29/25 07:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Melmac is the original p.e. from homestead book company

Someone bought out homestead book company in like 2015-17(?) and renamed homestead pe to melmac

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#29328780 - 08/29/25 07:21 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

So where did they split? I dont get it and i should be asleep lol. See yall tomorrow.

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#29328783 - 08/29/25 07:28 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

It's literally just homestead pe. The guy might have stabilized out something from the original homestead culture but I never really cared for or understood the rename

cronicr said:

Yes they went out of business years ago but a friend on fb managed to get his hands on the pe lineage from them and got them to germinate and we now have the original lineage in the community dubbed melmak

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#29328785 - 08/29/25 07:30 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

lol gather round kids catnip telling stories of the before times

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#29328788 - 08/29/25 07:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

catnip40 said:

1. spore germination of (n) haploid, monokaryotic, primary mycelium
2. hyphal anastomosis between two compatible monokaryons and they fuse
3. plasmogamy occurs (mixing of cytoplasm) nuclei migrate but do not fuse
4. resulting in dikaryotic state, vegatative, secondary mycelium (n+n)
5. dikaryotic mycelium produces basidiocarps (fruit bodies, tertiary mycelium) where karyogamy (fusion of the nuclei) occurs inside the basidia and creates a diploid cell (2n)
6. meiosis follows and new haploid (n) genotypes are created

Perfect. Now can you explain it like I'm a bit slow? :lol:

:lol:

Edit: if it's not obvious I'm joking. I'm sure if I Google all your fancy wizard words it would make more sense

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#29328802 - 08/29/25 07:58 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

ogelite said:

Hey mush fam!

I was wondering does Cronicrs container tek pf one works with steamer also?

My mycelium didnt colonized good in the boxes and i too early put to fruiting conditions, what do you suggest to put lid over again and wait for colonizing or just wait in fruit conditions?

Many thanks

Please anybody

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#29328824 - 08/29/25 08:30 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Yes it should work with steaming as well np. I mean we def can use the steaming in a pot method with the jars. So its just a different container.

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#29328825 - 08/29/25 08:33 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

ogelite said:

ogelite said:

Hey mush fam!

My mycelium didnt colonized good in the boxes and i too early put to fruiting conditions, what do you suggest to put lid over again and wait for colonizing or just wait in fruit conditions?

Maybe can help with this also.

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#29328831 - 08/29/25 08:46 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Pics? Rinse off any uncolonized areas

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#29328837 - 08/29/25 08:57 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

catnip40 said:

Melmac is homestead

melmac was worked and distributed by homestead book company, but isn't it the same fundamental genetics as PE?

melmac seems very very stabilized in my limited experience. even the weird "forks" are very consistent.

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#29328840 - 08/29/25 09:04 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

homestead is the original pe that homestead book company sold. alf got ahold of those genetics at some point and started calling whatever he was working with melmac. idk how much difference in the lineage it is to rename to melmac though. but ya its the same genetics as the original PE / comes from that original lingeage at least

the story is that rich gee was supplying the original pe spores to homestead book company in the early years

maybe cron can chime in at some point since he had gotten the spores from the guy who had got them from homestead and then germinated them ect

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#29328846 - 08/29/25 09:12 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

this is how i started growing mushrooms the home stead mushroom kits back in like 06 07 yes that was the real pe :thumbup:

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#29328855 - 08/29/25 09:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I've been growing Albino Normak lately, which is an albino variety of Melmak OG. I got it as a swab from a trusted vendor.

It grows big, sometimes doubling or trippling in size after the veil breaks.

I'd love to take some prints from it to give away, but the last run didn't seem to drop any. The spores are albino as well, so maybe I just didn't see them. Still, I got the genetics from a swab so it should be possible.

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