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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dopesauce]
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Synack]
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Synack said:
cronicr said:
Naw not even a bit lol, clean plates taste great.





MEA plates are just sweetened agar, so I expect it would taste a little like shitty jello. However, I am less optimistic about the taste of the myc. The fruits taste like shit, why would the myc be any better? :smile:



Dry fruit tastes like shit , cubes and most magic mushrooms are some of the best tasting mushrooms in the culinary world you could find :shrug:
But the taste test stands true...it's either going to taste like mushrooms or ass with sugar( don't ask how I know or we got issues )


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dopesauce]
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: misterswisher]
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misterswisher said:
Puffin said:
The stage after this is to generate auxotrohpic strains for each monokaryotic culture using UV mutagenesis. Auxotrophs are mutants that can't create a certain nutrient so rely on it being in their environment to survive. The idea is that each parent has a different auxotrophism, then after protoplast fusion (forced mating essentially), when the resulting cultures are cultured on minimal media, the only ones that will survive and grow are hybrids, with the working gene from the other parent for to fix their auxotrophism. Self mated parents do not survive do not survive, so it's a way to find 'the needle in the haystack' when a hybridisation does occur.




I skipped over this. How do you plan to create auxotophic strains ? I’m a poorly educated amateur so maybe this is easily achievable but that sounds like years of work in itself is it not?



I've started drafting the protocol for that here: Creating Auxotrophic Strains.

I think you're right that this stage will probably be a major undertaking, potentially the bulk of the work. I suspect that I'll have to get the protocol down to a fine art over time and run it many times until getting success.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dopesauce]
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dopesauce said:
First run og HG plates. Milo’s pda

Gonna try some sextoring.
Was thinking of putting 4 sectors from each player on one dish, to compare growth rates.

What should I do with the rest of the plate? Was thinking of just putting it to grain, then just clone the best fruits in order to start isolating from results vs conjecture from looking at the plates.



Take transfers leave the plate, maybe try send a couple but don't put a whole lot of effort into it, of they work sweet if not wait for your plates you ignored to pin


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
Puffin said:
My ambition is to create novel hybrids using protoplast fusion.



Is this possible without a high end lab?
How do you plan to remove the cell wall, for instance?



I don't have a high end lab but so long as I can get hold of the enzymes and a few chemicals then I don't see any reason why not, and there is usually a way with enough perseverance. I'm still formalising and drafting up the protocol for that stage, but I'll DM you with a link once it's written down.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Puffin] * 5
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puffin is about to cure cancer, meanwhile cron and I over here like

"what?! yall never eat your donor plates!? its DELiCIOUs!"

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
But I'm half buzzed , am I tripping or does the growth itself look suspect?



I recently got into a huge argument on reddit about similar growth being contam (not the halo). To me it looks powdery and unorganized. The argument centered on whether or not that was tomentose growth. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd appreciate the input.

If it were my plate, I'd probably toss growth like that. Note for OP, this is only what I would do, not me telling you to toss the plate.

I was burned many times when I started growing by running less than perfect plates. I'm much pickier now.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
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halos and concentric rings are from light cycles..  you got your light on a timer?  this plate looks like it was in the light for a week and then a long dark cycle.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
cronicr said:
But I'm half buzzed , am I tripping or does the growth itself look suspect?



I recently got into a huge argument on reddit about similar growth being contam (not the halo). To me it looks powdery and unorganized. The argument centered on whether or not that was tomentose growth. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd appreciate the input.

If it were my plate, I'd probably toss growth like that. Note for OP, this is only what I would do, not me telling you to toss the plate.

I was burned many times when I started growing by running less than perfect plates. I'm much pickier now.



Ok 👌 am beyond half buzzed now....fully fucked but I agree forget the halo wtf is with the plate itself lol


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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BeefSupremeJr said:
halos and concentric rings are from light cycles..  you got your light on a timer?  this plate looks like it was in the light for a week and then a long dark cycle.



Well I'll be damned. My ATL7 plates make this badass ripple affect of evenly spaced rings and 12hr light cycles would make too much sense.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dopesauce]
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dopesauce said:
Gonna try some sextoring.
Was thinking of putting 4 sectors from each player on one dish, to compare growth rates.




sExtoRing? Or Sectoring. Sextortion? Don't try that. haha.

Looking for "SECTORS" to transfer is b.s.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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:rofl:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: cronicr] * 1
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 3
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I bet ur sector is homokaryotic got the demeanor of a mf that eat corn the long way

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 4
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ThurmanMurman said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
halos and concentric rings are from light cycles..  you got your light on a timer?  this plate looks like it was in the light for a week and then a long dark cycle.



Well I'll be damned. My ATL7 plates make this badass ripple affect of evenly spaced rings and 12hr light cycles would make too much sense.



I get the zen garden rings when I have temperature fluctuations.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
halos and concentric rings are from light cycles..  you got your light on a timer?  this plate looks like it was in the light for a week and then a long dark cycle.



The plates were mostly face-down on a counter in a big room with lights that were on periodically. Now I'm keeping them in a stack in a cabinet, but the whispy growth was already there. Since the consensus is that it's pretty normal (even from ChatGPT if you look at my other thread, lol), I'm not too worried about it at this point.

I did note that other contam threads that talk about bacteria on agar show it as being very disorganized-looking growth, where this halo is very clearly *organized* rhizo-looking (albeit whispy and almost transparent) growth.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: catnip40] * 1
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catnip40 said:
I bet ur sector is homokaryotic got the demeanor of a mf that eat corn the long way



🤣🤣 Jesus Christ, man! Redact that!

Kloakk said:
ThurmanMurman said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
halos and concentric rings are from light cycles..  you got your light on a timer?  this plate looks like it was in the light for a week and then a long dark cycle.



Well I'll be damned. My ATL7 plates make this badass ripple affect of evenly spaced rings and 12hr light cycles would make too much sense.



I get the zen garden rings when I have temperature fluctuations.



That'd make sense too. Now I wanna keep the plates in the dark and see which it is.



Here's the ATL7. Just sharing bc I thought it looked cool, and I'm a simple man who's easily entertained.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
cronicr said:
But I'm half buzzed , am I tripping or does the growth itself look suspect?



I recently got into a huge argument on reddit about similar growth being contam (not the halo). To me it looks powdery and unorganized. The argument centered on whether or not that was tomentose growth. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd appreciate the input.

If it were my plate, I'd probably toss growth like that. Note for OP, this is only what I would do, not me telling you to toss the plate.

I was burned many times when I started growing by running less than perfect plates. I'm much pickier now.



Ok 👌 am beyond half buzzed now....fully fucked but I agree forget the halo wtf is with the plate itself lol



It's literally the only thing that grew on the two plates I dripped the LC on. Hard to imagine I'd get a vendor LC syringe of pure mold, no? Wouldn't it have sporulated on the plate after a couple weeks? I could certainly toss the whole shebang, as I've got a bunch of other cultures running that don't look at all weird, but I kinda wanted to try ochras..

I can make a pint jar of grain to run it on and try top-fruiting first? Is there a better and/or faster way to test?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Synack] * 4
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Idk bro don't listen to me ....I'm fully fucking cooked right now n that's my bad I should have stayed out n kept in my lane but my apologies n feel 100 percent free to shoot a message in like  6........maybe 18 hours


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