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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: LotKid] * 2
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callmehippie said:
Gonna try this cheap 4L rubber maid cereal storage container. For my next round of 90mm no pours.  This will double the amount of plates you could do in one of those stainless canisters.




The container itself is pp5 but the lid isn't so I'll replace that with some  foil.

Maybe stuff some paper towels or foil or somthin in the middle of the columns to help stabilize them a little bit more but after that they basically have no room to move around at all.


Each container holds 36 plates at a time and you can fit two

of them perfectly in a 23 presto. There's a trivet in the bottom but it's not raised at all. There's a very limited amount of room left if you did want to raise it just a little.





Update.  The cereal containers worked out perfectly. 72 no poures done in one go.  I stuffed the container full of paper towels and all the little gaps just to make sure everything stayed perfectly sturdy. And bonus. I got a bunch of perfectly dry steril paper towels out of it as well.

I removed the containers from the PC about an hour after it finished and depressurized. Everything was still really hot. Place them in my sab and left them too cool slowly. I think the thick plastic container helps with that as well which helps with the condensation. Also the room my Sab is in has the AC off so the ambient temperature in there is about a steady 80°.  That helped as well.

As soon as everything was cool and solidified I removed all the plates stacked  them upside down and left them overnight. When I came back all my condensation was pretty much gone. Very happy with the results. 

Pic tax.




Ps. Don't mind the useless cheap ass sab you see in the picture. I got suckered into that thing when I first started out. I don't do any work in it. I'm just using it to store my plates for long-term.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: callmehippie]
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Lol, I have the same sab. It's pretty decent for the price.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Centerfinger] * 2
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I personally wouldn't recommend a sab like that.  When I said cheap. I actually meant cheap" like a non functional expensive vendor rip off.    The soft plastic static  tarp sides defeat the purpose of still air. 

I use a cheap(15$)hard sided  120qt sterile tub with huge armholes now.  like this



  Ever since I made the switch. my success rate skyrocketed. 


If it works for you that's cool. But I definitely recommend making your own if your having any issues at all with your sab work.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: callmehippie]
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Soft SABs are the work of the devil. Ditch that vendor made nonsense, I couldn't believe how much contam I was getting from mine.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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I used that sab once and remembered I really dislike sab's. I built a hepa hood and it has worked fantastically.

I found several new thick hepa filters at goodwill for $5 so the bulk of the cost was just the sterilite and the inline fan.




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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Centerfinger]
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Centerfinger said:
I used that sab once and remembered I really dislike sab's. I built a hepa hood and it has worked fantastically.

I found several new thick hepa filters at goodwill for $5 so the bulk of the cost was just the sterilite and the inline fan.







You’re about to get some hate for that most likely.

I’ve thought about building one very similar, now I’m looking at buying one, but idk that design seems better than the large fan directly behind the filter that the FFUs most here use. I’ve just heard a lot of people hate on gordotek ffu.

Does it work for you? Do you do a lot of transfers?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Centerfinger] * 1
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Centerfinger said:
I used that sab once and remembered I really dislike sab's. I built a hepa hood and it has worked fantastically.

I found several new thick hepa filters at goodwill for $5 so the bulk of the cost was just the sterilite and the inline fan.






If it works and suits your needs, then... :rockon:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: LotKid] * 3
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It works fantastic, but I do keep air purifier in my room. I tested it by leaving several Petris in front of it for 5 minutes, granted I did get 1 out of 5 to contam. I'd never leave anything open for that long while working and I haven't had any issues.

I'm just starting back up after 5 years. 60 petris poured, 4 shoe boxes working, one on second flush and so far a total of 12 grain jars and I've lost maybe 2 dishes. Imo The freedom is worth the risk.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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KlarnEvil9 said:
Soft SABs are the work of the devil. Ditch that vendor made nonsense, I couldn't believe how much contam I was getting from mine.





Lol. Exactly..That's what im saying. 

I was suckered into the soft sab when I first started out. Now I just use it to store plants and already wrapped plates that I am letting condensation get rid of etc. It's good for everything other than sab work LOL


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said:
SirPsycho said:
ReverendMyc said:
To be fair, I am team beaker now thanks to you, I believe.



handles save delicate fingers.


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Lol this quote post comment got all messed up.  Anyways. 

I've. Been using these.. they amazing.

Although these specific ones aren't autoclavable. Im sure they have them tho. So I've been transferring my media into them when I'm ready to pour.


One is called a fluted pitcher. It's really good because the pouring nozzle is super long and skinny.






The second one is regular measuring pitcher. But the cool thing about it is the nozzle for pouring goes all the way down into the very bottom of the pitcher so you barely have to tilt it to pour the media out.  and you never have to worry about it coming out of the top of the pitcher if you tilt it too much.




Both have handles both make pouring media extremely easy.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ogelite]
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ogelite said:
tryptkaloids said:
ogelite said:
DERRAYLD said:
Odd that nothing happened, not even a bit of biofilm?



I am not sure for the agar also because it came from a vendor and correct , nothing happened.
ill try this time another vendor and lets see what happens.

Kloakk said:
I love my #7 handle, but I could use a higher quality one :begger: but uh, isn't anyone(who's not me) gonna have the "how to wrap with parafilm" talk with ogelite :hehehe:




Ouchh Kloakk,
Kick in the nuts.:sad:



I believe it was a lighthearted jab. I cut the thick strips in half so i dont have excess on the top of the plate.



Thanks for advice , ill try it asap.




I just fold them in half then half again.  Its thick. Takes a little bit of practice on stretching it so you don't immediately Rip it. But once you get it  it works perfectly. And it's just wide enough to cover only the sides.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: callmehippie]
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Question about 'water agar'.  I gather that plates with as low nutrients as you can manage are best?

I ran tests with MEA at 0.5%, 1%, and 1.5%.  0.5% was so jelly-like it would be unusable for transfers. 1% is marginal.

So I made up a batch of plates with 1% and did transfers to them on 7 Aug, myc side down.  The myc has attached.  Maybe I am impatient or frightened of losing my cultures but they seem to be taking a long time.

Am I Doing It Wrong®?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: anders]
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anders said:
Question about 'water agar'.  I gather that plates with as low nutrients as you can manage are best?

I ran tests with MEA at 0.5%, 1%, and 1.5%.  0.5% was so jelly-like it would be unusable for transfers. 1% is marginal.

So I made up a batch of plates with 1% and did transfers to them on 7 Aug, myc side down.  The myc has attached.  Maybe I am impatient or frightened of losing my cultures but they seem to be taking a long time.

Am I Doing It Wrong®?




Water agar is usually referring to agar with no added nutrition. Mycelium will travel out in search for the nutrients. It’s how you’re supposed to ship genetics from the MP.

And great for getting the mycelium away from contamination.

Low nutrient agar can be used for the same affect, the mycelium should run away from the bacteria faster(should) but there’s better ways to de contaminate than just using low nutrient agar.

With added nutrients it’s definitely growing you may just not be able to see it with the naked eye. You’d be surprised how far past the “halo” you can find strands of mycelium.  3 days is barely time to let the culture establish after being cut, let alone to let it venture out. Give it a week.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: misterswisher] * 8
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Look at these plates... Machine Elf Pheno Hunt.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DV8DUG]
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DV8DUG said:
Look at these plates... Machine Elf Pheno Hunt.





I love that you demanded I look and then they were worthy of looking. Very nice, my dude.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DV8DUG] * 1
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DV8DUG said:
Look at these plates... Machine Elf Pheno Hunt.





Are those all clone plates? How are you doing your pheno hunting?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DV8DUG]
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DV8DUG said:
Look at these plates... Machine Elf Pheno Hunt.





Will quote again.  Look more.
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: misterswisher] * 1
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misterswisher said:
Water agar is usually referring to agar with no added nutrition. Mycelium will travel out in search for the nutrients. It’s how you’re supposed to ship genetics from the MP.

And great for getting the mycelium away from contamination.

Low nutrient agar can be used for the same affect, the mycelium should run away from the bacteria faster(should) but there’s better ways to de contaminate than just using low nutrient agar.

With added nutrients it’s definitely growing you may just not be able to see it with the naked eye. You’d be surprised how far past the “halo” you can find strands of mycelium.  3 days is barely time to let the culture establish after being cut, let alone to let it venture out. Give it a week.



Reassuring.  I was very careful moving the slices, only cracking the plates enough to set the slice, and making small slices.  18 plates and only one with contamination, and it's all over.  No idea how that happened. 

Using a SAB but armholes open.  Today I sprayed the whole inside with hydrogen peroxide 3%.  After prior experiences I'm worried about this SAB.  I washed it all down with a hose a week or so ago because of prior contaminations.

I took several slices with plins and I can't tell whether they have contamination or it's just the aborted caps yet.  All plates sealed with clingwrap cut to width -- cheap and easy.  TEAM CLINGWRAP!

Looks like I'm on the right track with this 1% agar.  Maybe this will be the time I can go to grain.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: anders]
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You need two separate powders.  One is malt and the other is agar.
That way you can adjust one without changing the other.
Still making solid agar even if no malt included. (Water agar)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nocap]
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Oh.  I have this huge package of MEA and at 1% it'll last longer than I will live.

Also just got a packet of agar-agar, which it seems is what you are saying.  I wouldn't know how much of either to use, when.

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