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KlarnEvil9
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29291340 - 07/22/25 04:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

boxtrotalpha said:

tree frog said:

If I had any attachment to it I would toss it in a shoebox and cover it with coir.

If not, squirrel food.

We've got rats around here cause of the cow farm nearby and I try my best not to give them reason to visit. Appreciate it though.

Then it sounds like it's time to pull up a chair and a cooler, load the shotgun, and spread the grain out in the yard.

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#29291354 - 07/22/25 04:52 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Take more pics as it progresses. Maybe 26 and 36 hr post shake

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[Re: KlarnEvil9]
#29291356 - 07/22/25 04:55 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

KlarnEvil9 said:

boxtrotalpha said:

tree frog said:

If I had any attachment to it I would toss it in a shoebox and cover it with coir.

If not, squirrel food.

We've got rats around here cause of the cow farm nearby and I try my best not to give them reason to visit. Appreciate it though.

Then it sounds like it's time to pull up a chair and a cooler, load the shotgun, and spread the grain out in the yard.

Thought about it by my neighborhood isn't very spaced out unfortunately. Have taken out like 40-50 of the fuckers since I moved in though with old fashioned spring traps. Rats not neighbors

:wtfsonic:

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dooooooohhhh! I've already covered it in coir in a take out container to see if I can pull anything. We can blame tree frog

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#29291419 - 07/22/25 06:00 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

when a cake shrinks and you get side pins, or you just get side pins, I've read it's (at least in part) because 'conditions are better ' there in the cracks. q: what is it that's most likely better? more humidity? air? warmth?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29291420 - 07/22/25 06:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

tryptkaloids said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

tryptkaloids said:

Harvest and rehydrate

So you’re saying harvest everything off the cakes and soak them?

Yes.

Thanks! Will do! And I’m actually thinking of trying Beef’s Punisher Tek on them to clean them up a bit before I soak them, I feel I have nothing to lose if I give that a shot.

tree frog said:

I think the fresh air is pretty good on those, you should see some of the spaghetti in the ochracentrata thread.

But, I've only grown them in tents. I just noticed my low spore pans have trouble orienting. But they also grow more before deciding to abort

I think if yours had dropped spores, they'd honestly look worse with how long they went. As once spores drop the colony will stop pushing nutrients and even start digesting the mushrooms.

Thanks TF! And yes, you are correct as they didn’t drop spores. I’m looking forward to these as they dried up pretty!

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#29291422 - 07/22/25 06:06 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Mackload said:

when a cake shrinks and you get side pins, or you just get side pins, I've read it's (at least in part) because 'conditions are better ' there in the cracks. q: what is it that's most likely better? more humidity? air? warmth?

Humidity

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#29291429 - 07/22/25 06:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I got this in my monotub (see photo). At first I thought it got contaminated, as i saw fruit-fly-like insects somehow multiplying in there. Shortly after ONLY ONE mushroom appeared. And grew into this monster mushroom over the next few days. Originally came as a z-strain. It smells good overall. How can I be sure it is safe? Planning to collect spores and consume at some point.

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#29291433 - 07/22/25 06:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

You saw fungus gnats. They feed on your sub and breed.

That mushroom is fine to eat. You can be sure the same way youd be sure if your grocery store produce has gone bad. Rot alters sight, smell, and texture.

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#29291434 - 07/22/25 06:30 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

it is safe

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29291437 - 07/22/25 06:32 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

j0in2me said:

I got this in my monotub (see photo). At first I thought it got contaminated, as i saw fruit-fly-like insects somehow multiplying in there. Shortly after ONLY ONE mushroom appeared. And grew into this monster mushroom over the next few days. Originally came as a z-strain. It smells good overall. How can I be sure it is safe? Planning to collect spores and consume at some point.

It's completely safe.

Why would it not be?
Imagine every wild mushroom being unsafe after a fruitfly or something sat on it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

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#29291440 - 07/22/25 06:36 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

You got fruit. Nice job.

If you have doubts that it is an active mushroom: once you are ready to harvest, give it a little squeeze near the base. Psilocybes will usually bruise blue. If you cut it it will very likely turn very dark blue on the cut line as well. That is psilocin converting to a non-active chemical. It is not necessarily an indication of potency, but it is a reliable indicator that it is a psilocybe and "safe" to eat.

If all you are concerned about is the fungus gnats, like everyone else said, it is fine. They don't eat much.
:rofl:

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#29291459 - 07/22/25 06:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I did a grain to grain transfer, the jars were fine and came from petri dishes that were fine too.
Half the jars are fine and ready to be mixed with coco, the other half look like this...

The grains look wetter now after being in the jar for a week than when I first put them in. They look slimy.
I know they are no good, but why are they no good, whats wrong?
What did I do wrong?

Did they get too hot? kept at 80-88f
Have they some kind of bacteria?

The berries are rye and I pressure cooked them at 14-15psi for two hours (Presto pressure cooker).
I soaked the rye over night and washed it, until the water ran clear. Should I soak it for 36 hours and wash more?
Most jars are 32floz, some are 64floz. They must have 2-2.5lbs of grain in them, the bigger jars must have about 5lb of cooked rye grains in them.

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#29291462 - 07/22/25 06:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

And how do I clean these jars?

Soak them in water with bleach in it over night, together with the lids. Then wash them, dry them, wipe them with 70% iso and use them again right?

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#29291480 - 07/22/25 07:08 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Two bit said:

And how do I clean these jars?

Soak them in water with bleach in it over night, together with the lids. Then wash them, dry them, wipe them with 70% iso and use them again right?

Just run em with your other household dishes. Soap water done. Some dont even do that.

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#29291481 - 07/22/25 07:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Two bit said:

I did a grain to grain transfer, the jars were fine and came from petri dishes that were fine too.
Half the jars are fine and ready to be mixed with coco, the other half look like this...

The grains look wetter now after being in the jar for a week than when I first put them in. They look slimy.
I know they are no good, but why are they no good, whats wrong?
What did I do wrong?

Did they get too hot? kept at 80-88f
Have they some kind of bacteria?

The berries are rye and I pressure cooked them at 14-15psi for two hours (Presto pressure cooker).
I soaked the rye over night and washed it, until the water ran clear. Should I soak it for 36 hours and wash more?
Most jars are 32floz, some are 64floz. They must have 2-2.5lbs of grain in them, the bigger jars must have about 5lb of cooked rye grains in them.

You let bacteria in while doing the g2g.

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Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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#29291484 - 07/22/25 07:11 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I just bought cordyceps spores... How challenging are they to grow?

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#29291492 - 07/22/25 07:19 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

thank you. Just needed reassurance. These gnats looks somehow more intelligent compared to regular fruit flies ))

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#29291504 - 07/22/25 07:33 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

A little unsure of what's going on with my tubs, and if it is normal...

The first tub started showing pins about a week ago, this is it today. The mushrooms are pretty small, under 1 inch. Wondering if I could be doing something to stunt their growth? Maybe not enough fresh air exchange? Otherwise they look pretty good.

The second tub colonized faster than the first but still no pins! It has been fully colonized for around 8-10 days.

Am I doing something wrong or should I stay the course?

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#29291571 - 07/22/25 08:46 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

1NFIN8 said:

ok, fuck em. I'm crying uncle and buying a pc, jars, and my own grain. I may be stubborn but I'm not stupid.

Good call. Jars aren't as far to the middle so more likely to be sterilized all the way through in PC compared to bags.

Good start post for clean tek:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27646632#27646632

Jar tek in specific:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29065574#29065574

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#29291574 - 07/22/25 08:48 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Two bit said:

And how do I clean these jars?

Soak them in water with bleach in it over night, together with the lids. Then wash them, dry them, wipe them with 70% iso and use them again right?

Whatever you do don't mix bleach and alcohol. Even trace. Toxic gas.

I clean jars and lids in the sink to get everything out then put in the dishwasher.

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