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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha]
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Guessing the latter but ‘tis just that… A guess.

:ruggedwink:


Never done PDA but have seen solids and sediments in other recipes if I didn’t get it hot enough and mixed well enough before sterilizing.

Edit - also made a SSLC and ended up with chunks at the bottom from shoddy mixing on my part. The agar was not initially dissolved and settled out of suspension during the cook.

Edited by nocap (07/20/25 05:49 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 1
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LadysKnight said:
Theoretically speaking, if you had a clean, fully colonized jar of grain spawn, do you think it would be dangerous to open the jar, sniff contents, replace lid until spawned a couple weeks later?



anecdotal 2 star evidence but I've accidentally opened fully colonized unmodified jars before and never had them catch cooties.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Its definitely bacterial. Id let it ride and just give it a massive top layer instead of spawning it



Noob here so let me make sure I understand. Let it continue in the bag. Then don’t don’t bother with a monotub? Just open the bag and give it a thick layer of coir on top and let it fruit as-is? Or if it continues and fills in then go ahead with the tub?

This is one of two bags for a 66q monotub. The other looks fine. Could I cut the bad part out with large margins and spawn the 1.X bags?

I appreciate the advice.


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Edited by 1NFIN8 (07/20/25 06:21 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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dinosaurs said:
LadysKnight said:
Theoretically speaking, if you had a clean, fully colonized jar of grain spawn, do you think it would be dangerous to open the jar, sniff contents, replace lid until spawned a couple weeks later?



anecdotal 2 star evidence but I've accidentally opened fully colonized unmodified jars before and never had them catch cooties.



I've opened jars, hydrated them with tap water trying to get stones to grow, and spawned them weeks later.

They didn't fruit (true nats :mad2:).  But did sit in my tent fully colonized until I gave up and composted them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Did u use potato flakes ? U can steep the potatoes flakes and then decant off the solids and just use the potato liquid + agar %

It doesn't really matter either way but you need to mix it pretty well before pouring if you left any solids in

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 1NFIN8]
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1NFIN8 said:
I bought a 12 pack of coir and they arrived sealed in sixes. Am I the only one ocd/perfectionist/paranoid to vacuum seal the remaining 5 like this?





Vacuum sealing might be worse than just keeing them in a bag.

Some vacuum sealing bags let in moisture without letting in air. Perfect environment for anaerobic bacteria.

I didn't believe it until I you've thrown away several ounces of mushrooms.

This is a known issue, I'm not the only person here who's had it. (this person is blaming DampRid, but I didn't use any) Here's a thread about it from BigWorm.

Other dried mushrooms from one of the same grows that I had just stuck in a zip lock bag in a drawer for 3 years were fine.

Probably lower potency than they would have been vacuum sealed in a Mason jar, but fine.

I bought a lot of Coir several years ago, I keep it in the lose paper wrapping it came in, stacked in a cardboard box. No issues after years.

You're going to pour boiling water on it anyway to prep, that will kill whatever's in the air. But if it's totally rotting, that's not going to do the job.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight]
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LadysKnight said:
Theoretically speaking, if you had a clean, fully colonized jar of grain spawn, do you think it would be dangerous to open the jar, sniff contents, replace lid until spawned a couple weeks later?



I understand Mold Farmer's point but I wouldn't.

But you can smell contam through the filter hole if you get close.

And if it's fully colonized, why are you waiting a couple weeks to send to tub? (If I'm understanding what you asked)

Some people let it go a week after it's all white, to make sure it gets to the middle, but why two weeks? Could start growing Jins by then (Jar pins. haha)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 2
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Do these jins grant wishes?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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My concern with the sclerotia jars was pin molds.  Once the jar was open, I left the lid loose.  Like, just resting on the jar essentially.

And watered and drained a few times before I got bored and spawned it.

Opening it does give bacteria and mold a chance on any nutrients the mycelium hasn't found.  Starches stuck to the glass for example.  And even if they don't cause problems immediately, because there's likely not a lot of nutrients available, giving them a head start could impact overall yield.  Especially in later flushes.

The fact that I got away with it doesn't make it good practice.

But, in theory, you can get away with it :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Anyone redehydrate fruits?

Shame me all you want lmao I didnt expect to hold onto as much as i am. Throwing them in ziplocks and stashing them didnt work. can i just mass dehydrate them all for like another 12 hours and jar them with desicants or do you think theres some potency loss involved in that?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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misterswisher said:
Anyone redehydrate fruits?

Shame me all you want lmao I didnt expect to hold onto as much as i am. Throwing them in ziplocks and stashing them didnt work. can i just mass dehydrate them all for like another 12 hours and jar them with desicants or do you think theres some potency loss involved in that?



Dehydrate for 24rs and jar them up with desiccant packets. That's standard procedure for long term storage of whole fruits.🤙


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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So i should dry the half dry fruits for 24 hours ur saying?

Most of those fuckers i dried for 24 already but used shit bags and live in high humidity. Will use jars and desiccant packs from now on tho <3


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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Yep. Just dry em again.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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misterswisher said:
can i just mass dehydrate them all for like another 12 hours and jar them with desicants or do you think theres some potency loss involved in that?...Most of those fuckers i dried for 24 already but used shit bags and live in high humidity. Will use jars and desiccant packs from now on tho



You're using a food dehydrator to dry right? (you should). 165-180 F for 24 hours.

Or are you using just desiccant? That won't make them dry enough and they may rot in storage. Especially since you live in high humidity.

180 F for 24 hours does not harm potency.

Not drying them enough and having them rot does. Plus, you wouldn't want to eat them then.


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Edited by nektar61 (07/20/25 09:20 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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Yeah using food dehydrator the fruits were dried properly. Stored improperly.

Idk if anyone has a bat signal for Nichrome but I really need his expertise right now or anyone who knows really 😂
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? I’m more excited than worried about it. Is it a slime mold? If it is I’m definitely keeping it as a pet.



Tubs riddled with a pine smell. It’s like 4th or 5th flush contams expected lmao.


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Edited by misterswisher (07/20/25 10:28 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
Nichrome said:
You ok Nektar? 

You're having a melt down about not a lot.
....Anyways I'd like it if you took your superiority complex somewhere else so this thread can return to its intended roll.



I'm not having a meltdown, I'm calm. I'm answering questions.
And the last few replies of mine on here have been very calm, the one you quoted was even playing along with a pop culture reference that has nothing to do with this topic. I was trying to change the subject. You seem triggered, not me.

And I'm not being mean to anyone, just matter of fact.

But I'll hold back what I've been thinking and not saying. Having several people give me shit for using correct terms reminds me of the running joke in Idiocracy where the low-IQ people call the average-IQ person "FAG" because he speaks in complete sentences.

I'm going go back to having you, Nichrome, on ignore, like I did for over 2 years.

I only recently took you off ignore, and it was a mistake. If you want to know why I had you on ignore, it was for this totally insane post. I can't believe you said that acting like a serial killer is a good way to keep the cops from paying attention to you (I thought you were joking but you got mad at me for thinking that in subsequent posts, and then complained that I break up paragraphs instead of posting text blocks):

Quote:
Or you could just be so weird that anyone and everyone is mortified to even look at anything in your yard let alone want to go through your garbage.

Leaving hides and bones and other animal parts all around is a good start. Piles of moldy stuff helps too. Most people are afraid of fungus. People don't want to know what the fuck it is. Meter reader keeps his eyes front. Thinks you're a Jeff Dahmer or some shit.



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OK, I'm done with this topic if you all are, and won't bring it up here today except to reply. But I'm still going to correct incorrect terms when someone uses them while trying to teach a new member here. Everyone should be doing that or we turn into Reddit.




You are a real piece of work. Please stop trolling me.

If you do have me on ignore, how is it that you participate so frequently in this thread, and my other threads? 

If you had me on ignore you wouldn't see it at all... Do you literally obsess about and have to take me off ignore every time you want to post here and then put me back on ignore after? 

That's a certain kind of dedication that makes my skin crawl.  If you can't see that you are indeed being mean and flaming for no good reason, that's really fucked up. 

I think you are really messed up.  Please leave me alone.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha]
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boxtrotalpha said:


Is it normal for PDA to separate this much when it cools or did I fail to homogenize it well enough prior to sterilizing it?



This consistently happens to me with agar media if I don't melt it (boil or just under) and mix before sterilizing, and I don't get around to agitating the bottle before it cools. It's no big deal, just need to reheat it and mix it up - a microwave works great for that.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 2
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LadysKnight said:
Theoretically speaking, if you had a clean, fully colonized jar of grain spawn, do you think it would be dangerous to open the jar, sniff contents, replace lid until spawned a couple weeks later?



Pssshhhh...

I've routinely swapped lids, transferred spawn to old carryout containers for storage because I need the jar and don't have space for the spawn anywhere else, and even just dumped spawn into a tub and then let it sit there because I got busy. (That last one I don't do anymore because I finally figured out that it's way easier to mix spawn in a mixing bowl and then just dump it into the tub all pre-mixed.) I've then let that shit sit for so long that I had to pick pins off the surface before spawning.

It's always the EXCESSIVE time till finally spawning that fucks me up. I'm trying to break those habits and tighten up my scheduling, because the complacency doesn't do me any favors and eventually stuff dries out or gets funky. But exposing colonized grain and then letting it sit a few weeks? Nah. I don't lose a second of sleep over it. Opening for sniff tests is a pretty major part of my process lol

Edited by B Traven (07/21/25 01:34 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 3
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misterswisher said:
Anyone redehydrate fruits?

Shame me all you want lmao I didnt expect to hold onto as much as i am. Throwing them in ziplocks and stashing them didnt work. can i just mass dehydrate them all for like another 12 hours and jar them with desicants or do you think theres some potency loss involved in that?



I came up in the era of ziplocks. And of thinking that stomach problems were an unavoidable part of the experience. Once I figured out that senesced fruits were the root cause of most of my problems, I became absolutely paranoid about rehydration. Once it comes out of the dehydrator, it goes into a tightly sealed glass jar. If anything happens to it that leads me to question the chain of storage, it becomes compost. I ain't about that life anymore.


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Edited by B Traven (07/20/25 11:55 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven]
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how long after birthing do you see fruits, usually/

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