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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala] * 1
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Hey Thurman....thought of you when I dumped these out.  These were not obviously contaminated.  Just think they are bunk genetics, but anyway  I saw the yellow stuff on bottom when I dumped it and it was just grain......Don't know if that's what you had going on in the pic you posted.......

We are both on a quest to fruit this most highly regarded mushroom :smile:.  We'll get there.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: JW123] * 1
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Thanks JW


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 1
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hardhead43 said:


Hey Thurman....thought of you when I dumped these out.  These were not obviously contaminated.  Just think they are bunk genetics, but anyway  I saw the yellow stuff on bottom when I dumped it and it was just grain......Don't know if that's what you had going on in the pic you posted.......

We are both on a quest to fruit this most highly regarded mushroom :smile:.  We'll get there.


You tossed good subs? My dude...no...why? 🤣


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
hardhead43 said:


Hey Thurman....thought of you when I dumped these out.  These were not obviously contaminated.  Just think they are bunk genetics, but anyway  I saw the yellow stuff on bottom when I dumped it and it was just grain......Don't know if that's what you had going on in the pic you posted.......

We are both on a quest to fruit this most highly regarded mushroom :smile:.  We'll get there.



You tossed good subs? My dude...no...why? 🤣



Because....I have tried to get fruits from these subtrop genetics that I got from a vendor repeatedly and just cannot get the darn stuff to fruit.  Tried dry, wet, waiting 3 months, LITFA, cold shock and now that I have some better genetics just over it.  I've more in the pipeline with the good genes and have 5 shoeboxes that look good so far...

Out of room on my shelf was probably the deciding factor :smile:.

Also I felt like the "InsaniTEK" was not working......trying the same thing over and over expecting different results.

Point taken though...maybe in the future might try some outdoor grows with stuff that is not working out indoors.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead]
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Has anyone summarised the grow notes for semperviva anywhere? I have about 10 quart jars of grain ready to spawn but need to get a handle on how they differ from Ochra I just grew.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: NotAlex]
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NotAlex said:
Has anyone summarised the grow notes for semperviva anywhere? I have about 10 quart jars of grain ready to spawn but need to get a handle on how they differ from Ochra I just grew.


Check out page 1 of this thread


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: NotAlex] * 4
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Read this thread and the links in Melgo’s opening post.
Melgo’s semp notes

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao] * 2
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:whathesaid:
Also check out Moopers notes.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28015303

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: JW123]
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A better shot of my shitty brown spots. They definitely grow after formation too. And yeah, I saw the mold - all 3 of my boxes shit the bed - time to plant them in a barrel outside I suppose. Just curious if anyone has seen their spawn do this. I saw something similar once with cubes, but I was pretty sure the spawn was bacterial anyway. I felt damn good about my semp spawn.🤷‍♂️


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: JW123] * 1
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great thanks for those pointers.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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@Thurman

Do u have a pic of the jars? Asking bc I'm still learning semp myc too.

FWIW all of my fucky jars looked similar to the one you previously posted

ThurmanMurman said:



Example of my fucky jars

> 1 week later (on right, It totally shit the bed)

This jar was was good and I used it for my cake. Was healthy through 2 flushes, was still healthy when I tossed the cake. I dont have pics of the jars I used for my latest tray.

> 1 week later just before spawning


I feel like my healthier semp myc/jars have had whispier growth compared to the baccy ones (thicker). Has anyone noticed this?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala]
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This jar was never spawned. It's still sitting around, but yeah, I dont trust it. Unfortunately, I dont have a pic on hand, but I've got another jar at home that was from the same g2g batch and I'll grab a pic when I get a chance.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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My sketchy jars have never looked good after the first shake

And they turn horrid after several weeks/months



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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
My sketchy jars have never looked good after the first shake

And they turn horrid after several weeks/months







I did have a pic. My fault. Everything Ive sent to bulk looked like this. Fast recovery after shakes...


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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These spots look weird but I'm guessing they're weird reflections?



Otherwise I would've sent that too :shrug:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:


A better shot of my shitty brown spots. They definitely grow after formation too. And yeah, I saw the mold - all 3 of my boxes shit the bed - time to plant them in a barrel outside I suppose. Just curious if anyone has seen their spawn do this. I saw something similar once with cubes, but I was pretty sure the spawn was bacterial anyway. I felt damn good about my semp spawn.🤷‍♂️



@Thurman I think here's your culprit - this looks like trich to me.


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Official Ps papuana Cultivation Thread
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
These spots look weird but I'm guessing they're weird reflections?



Otherwise I would've sent that too :shrug:


Yeah, those weren't in the jar.

wavyedge said:
ThurmanMurman said:


A better shot of my shitty brown spots. They definitely grow after formation too. And yeah, I saw the mold - all 3 of my boxes shit the bed - time to plant them in a barrel outside I suppose. Just curious if anyone has seen their spawn do this. I saw something similar once with cubes, but I was pretty sure the spawn was bacterial anyway. I felt damn good about my semp spawn.🤷‍♂️



@Thurman I think here's your culprit - this looks like trich to me.


Yeah, I saw that when I took the pic. Fairly predictable- my last box that got the splotchy brown shit eventually did the same. The boxes start out ok and then quickly sprout the brown patches which slowly grow in size and then trich bites me. I might add a 2nd SFD to the inside of my jar lids just to make me feel better. I doubt it's my lids, but it sure as hell doesn't seem like it could be my agar or sterile procedure. I do great for a while and then get bad results that seem to come in clusters/cycles. The only thing cyclic I can think of is my jar lids. 🤷‍♂️


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Edited by ThurmanMurman (06/18/25 05:57 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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Trich is a bitch and with species that have different mycelial forms then it is hard to spot until it's too late. When I first say your wet spots I wasn't sure there was contam. Id run these in hopes of getting fruits or until you see green take over still.


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Official Ps papuana Cultivation Thread
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: wavyedge] * 2
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Ill give it a shot! I did notice how small of a spot it was. Anytime I've gotten trich with cubes, it's usually a much bigger area it's gotten ahold of. I'll let it ride and see what happens. 🤙

Im also gonna add just a touch of air circulation to the room. I dont at all like the amount of condensation I'm getting in these boxes, even with lids flipped. I'm kinda spitballin, but I wouldn't be surprised that the still air and humidity of summer is fighting against me here. Guess we'll see.


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Edited by ThurmanMurman (06/18/25 07:06 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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You might get a few fruits, sometimes trich is quick behind the first flush. Just a question of if you need the room.


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