Mr Piggy said:

Man, you know how much I cried at the end of charlotte’s web?

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Dkeppel said:

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My daddy has the IBS.
Had a fever as a lad and needed to have a piece of intestine removed.
He drinks Lactaid in place of any milk.
Might be a good place to start.

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I do need to pay more attention to my diet.

It's so expensive being gluten-free, feels like everything cheap and filling has gluten

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I got IBS pretty bad.  Making tea and not consuming the material helps a bit, but the older I get the worse the results.  They're harsh on the tum, that's for sure.

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Tea made with potent mushrooms is my usual go to but I've been unusally unwell for months, which puts me off tripping and feeds the cancer is back brain worms, which is not an ideal headspace.

I'm hoping a good trip might knock me out of this self pitying rut.

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Phaethon said:

How long did you pasteurize? You sure the center actually reached temp and was held there for a couple hours?

In any case, leaving it sealed is a big reason for failure. Pasteurization doesn't kill everything, and leaving it sealed gave the anaerobic organisms remaining a huge leg up.

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Phaethon said:

How long did you pasteurize? You sure the center actually reached temp and was held there for a couple hours?

In any case, leaving it sealed is a big reason for failure. Pasteurization doesn't kill everything, and leaving it sealed gave the anaerobic organisms remaining a huge leg up. The beneficial ones tend to be aerobic.

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Kloakk said:

Strong smell of what? Does it smell sour? I ask because Mico Zapotec write about the importance of stirring the substrate and casing while pasteurizing to get oxygen in it. I use bags, but never submerge them, that way I can introduce oxygen and shake them several times during pasteurization.

"Also during pasteurization you should mix it several times to spread water and fill with oxygen.
When pasteurization finished also makes sense to keep it for a few days before doing casing. The substrate should not have any smell of sour!"

How are you reading the temperature of what you are pasteurizing if the bags are submerged?

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Not saying I don't believe or trust Mico. Not at all. But I never read or heard about anyone doing that before. Nor have I done it and I had success using a crookpot for many many grows so I don't think that necessary at all might be beneficial though sure. But again. Never heard anyone or any of the teks on here every mentioned that.

Yeah smelled sour and so much like horse poo.

Puduwoke said:

Not saying I don't believe or trust Mico. Not at all. But I never read or heard about anyone doing that before. Nor have I done it and I had success using a crookpot for many many grows so I don't think that necessary at all might be beneficial though sure. But again. Never heard anyone or any of the teks on here every mentioned that.

Yeah smelled sour and so much like horse poo.

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I don't think it is absolutely necessary, especially if you use the sub/casing right after it's cooled, might even be fine left alone for a week, most likely your sub wasn't pasteurized properly and that is why it's fucked.

I was just thinking about what may have caused it and think of what could increase the chance of success, for anybody that read this. I might be to involved in this hobby to a point where it's an unhealthy obsession, but I try to do everything I can to get the best conditions in all phases of cultivating, I mean, I certainly don't need more shrooms

Kloakk said:

Puduwoke said:

Not saying I don't believe or trust Mico. Not at all. But I never read or heard about anyone doing that before. Nor have I done it and I had success using a crookpot for many many grows so I don't think that necessary at all might be beneficial though sure. But again. Never heard anyone or any of the teks on here every mentioned that.

Yeah smelled sour and so much like horse poo.

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I don't think it is absolutely necessary, especially if you use the sub/casing right after it's cooled, might even be fine left alone for a week, most likely your sub wasn't pasteurized properly and that is why it's fucked.

I was just thinking about what may have caused it and think of what could increase the chance of success, for anybody that read this. I might be to involved in this hobby to a point where it's an unhealthy obsession, but I try to do everything I can to get the best conditions in all phases of cultivating, I mean, I certainly don't need more shrooms

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I just took the temperature of the substrate that's currently pasteurizing and after 2 hours it hit 62c in the center.

That leave those bags in question with 2 hours above 140f. I for sure pasteurized them properly.

This is why I would like a second opinion about it Since I think the problem was that they didn't have any GE at all and temps where i stored it were pretty high.

I'm open to being wrong though.

To be sure I'm adding another 2 hours to the current batch.

I guess we Will find out soon enough if the trays I spawned today get contaminated or not though since I used 4 hours with those as well

Dude btw, your brew area looks awesome

Puduwoke said:

I just took the temperature of the substrate that's currently pasteurizing and after 2 hours it hit 62c in the center.

That leave those bags in question with 2 hours above 140f. I for sure pasteurized them properly.

This is why I would like a second opinion about it Since I think the problem was that they didn't have any GE at all and temps where i stored it were pretty high.

I'm open to being wrong though.

To be sure I'm adding another 2 hours to the current batch.

I guess we Will find out soon enough if the trays I spawned today get contaminated or not though since I used 4 hours with those as well

Dude btw, your brew area looks awesome

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Wow that's fast, I think my digiboil uses about 4-6 hours to get to temp, then I do 2 hours. Could be a lot I'm missing, I've only used cow manure compost, coir, verm and cactus soil.

Tomorrow that'll change, I'm doing 8 different substrate for 8 trays of TTBVI, guess I'll find out if I've just been lucky or if the way I've been doing it actually works

But if your substrate was properly pasteurized, then it would be interesting to know what went south. 60°C should kill all molds and yeast, so I'm wondering what is growing in those bags.

Thanks for the kind words on my brew corner, appreciate it

Arkyhog said:

For lions mane bags, soy pellets or wheat bran to go with my oak pellets?

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