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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
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Smellyhobbit said:
YoshiTrainer said:
Pick all the ripe ones.


Shoot at that point I may as well eat them. No sense in drying a few mushies huh


Definitely eat them, just not all at once. And that let's the others mature a bit longer.

Fresh semps, I only need one or two for good buzz and three might be too many.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 3
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That’s why I don’t grow them as often as maybe I’d like. The threat of going truly overboard with semps is more dangerous than it is with cubes or pans. Semps are sharp.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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As with powders, always weigh each dose, and start low.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 3
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:goodburger:

Yeah I’ll for sure do that. Definitely.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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Smellyhobbit said:
That’s why I don’t grow them as often as maybe I’d like. The threat of going truly overboard with semps is more dangerous than it is with cubes or pans. Semps are sharp.


Fuck, I can't wait. I love tripping hard enough to teeter on "maybe that was too much".


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Compared to cubes, how strong would you guys say they are?:takingnotes:

Put my second attempt of Semps to agar yesterday:rockon:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 7
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A word of caution which is also anecdotal and doesn’t necessarily apply to everyone: going overboard on semps is a lot worse than going overboard on cubes or pans.

I took 1.5g dry semps and I remember thinking “any more than this and I’m falling off the edge of this trip.” But not in a cube way where I want to see what’s over that edge. This was borderline delirium. The sort of overboard where you would like it to stop. Now I didn’t go that far, but I know some people here who have (not saying any names) and they were afraid. For days afterward.

I’ve gone overboard on cubes and wanted to do it again as soon as the headache cleared up. I’m scared of 2g semps.

But you know, different species impact everyone differently. You might fuckin love it. I’m not trying to dissuade you, but a word of caution can’t hurt.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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How long until the myc packs a punch? I skimmed ReverendMycs write up, but I guess I dont understand the mg/g measurement. Like 2 weeks was 3mg/g dried, I think. what's an average cubes content per g? And is there any way to ballpark a dose for the fresh spawn? I'd be down to get into it tonight, if we have time.

I know these are noob questions that I could probably find answers to, but I am ridiculously overwhelmed with other shit right now and would love a bit of spoon feeding here.

@Smellyhobbit- I would absolutely get acquainted before riding that line. I know exactly what you mean about going too far with cubes, so I'll be especially careful if it's a different than that. Thanks for the heads up homie.


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Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

Edited by ThurmanMurman (05/25/25 01:59 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 1
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Puduwoke said:
Compared to cubes, how strong would you guys say they are?:takingnotes:

Put my second attempt of Semps to agar yesterday:rockon:


3-4x

I’ve taken and will again take 10g+ cubes. I won’t take 2g semps.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Holy sh#t:mindblown:

So I can pretty much dose them dry weight the same as pans:shrug:

I will take your word of caution very serious though and start with 0.5g:takingnotes:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 8
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I had 0.44g fresh this morning and I'd say it was a true microdose.  It gave me a little lift and it was gone in a few hours.  It also came from an immature fruit, which I understand pack less of a punch than mature fruits.

I've noticed these things have a thick presence, like their effect is pervasive in my body and mind.  I keep landing on the word syrupy

Utterly delightful both times I've tried them fresh (0.44g & 0.96g)

In other news, I built some scaffolding for the 2nd flush fruits on my cake.  They're beautiful, and they haven't fully matured (that purple/pink color has just started climbing up the base on some of them), but they are starting to fall over.  I'm hoping to support their growth long enough for some prints.

 


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala] * 1
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Swabs are easier than prints if that helps at all...

As to the potency, the compounding factor is more relevant than with cubes...

Like cubes is more linear  (2+2=4)
And semps are more exponential (2+2=4e3)

@Thurman
iirc 90 days was minimum for myceliated grain and 4-6 months was better but 12 months wasn't much more return for the time...

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja]
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swabs will do fine, good call lew.  Patiently waiting on spore production :popcorn:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala] * 1
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I still haven't sampled these, but after getting zorped by ten grams of tropical pans I'm really curious.

IME cubensis doesn't have a 'ceiling' the way other species do. When I tripped a lot on cubes I sometimes ate 80 grams fresh, or once 11 grams dry, but I was still able to write down the experience. Or communicate about what I saw and felt.

With 20 - 25 grams of woodlovers, I'm just writhing on the ground, can't write, can't really speak coherently. If I try to roll a doob I just rip it in half or get so distracted that I can't finish the process.

As I mistakenly thought pans are just a tad stronger than woodlovers, the idea was to work up to 20 grams. But I dunno. Ten grams was pretty damn strong.

Odissey told me he prefers subtrops over pans as they are somehow gentler, or less insane. I imagine this being alike to how pans are clearly a lot stronger than woodlovers, but less dark, less mauling. Actually, I'm having a pretty hard time imagining something significantly stronger than pans. Can't wait to try.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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Some say the semps have a darkness/heavinessand others say exactly the opposite. 

I have seen both sides but not too the extreme or as often for the darker side.

Edited by LewDoja (05/25/25 05:48 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 3
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I think it’s all subjective. Semps have been the least forgiving for me. Cubes are gentle and warm and sweet. Pans are all the theme park aspects of cubes cranked to a high intensity. 13g wet pan cyan was an extremely enjoyable experience I would like to repeat weekly until death lol.

All these different compounds. It’s not crazy to think we’d all feel them differently.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 5
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Just in my very small circle of friends, there's a lot of variation in experience just with cubes. My gf is the only person I've ever met who describes tripping as "erotic" through and through. Like...has a lady boner the whole fuggin way. Ill spare the details, but my god...never have I heard of such a thing. My best bud takes more than 2g and every mistake and unlikeable characteristic about himself comes crashing down on him. Gfs kids cant hardly even trip - natural tolerance is through the roof. Me - I cant sit still, pace around like a euphoric chimpanzee. If I took someone on their first trip, idek what I'd tell them to expect anymore.

Oh, and ochras? Forget about it...I get the most amazing body buzz out of it, but it's absolutely debilitating, like lay in bed for the first couple hours and feel like what I ingested reverted back to mycelium sprawling throughout my limbs and colonizing the bed. But my gf gets less of a body load, which was why I even started growing them anyway. With cubes, she hardly moves from where we started. Can hardly walk, body heavy and uncoordinated...with her lady bits going bonkers, apparently. Which would be cool, but I dont have much interest in all that while I'm tripping.

Im looking forward to semps and I've also got a pint of ttbvi colonized and ready to g2g if I ever get a god damn break to do cult work, and I just put Atl 7 spores to pucks the other day, so hopefully will at least be getting down on some stones. I gotta try it all. 🤙


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Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said:
It’s weird how occasionally you come across somebody who’s not on meds but just has an insane resistance to psychedelics.

I have a friend like the guy you described, he’ll eat 7-10g of PE or 5-6 super strong tabs of acid and be like “it was a pretty good buzz for a couple hours”.

2.5g of pans got him going though, he called me yelling about how the flowers are spinning and melting and it’s the first time he’s had any kind of OEV :shrug:



Could be medications.  I was on Prozac for a while and I could no joke eat at least a half ounce without freaking out.  It took so much to even make the walls breathe.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: NattyOrNice] * 2
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Any hate, or love for this bag?  (Does anyone even grow in bags anymore??  :crazy2:) 


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
That’s why I don’t grow them as often as maybe I’d like. The threat of going truly overboard with semps is more dangerous than it is with cubes or pans. Semps are sharp.



Hey how about zapotecorum compared to semps?

I’ve heard that semps/subtropicalis or whatever is the “ONE” mushroom, DMT-like and very spiritual.  The best of them all.  Supposedly.

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