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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] * 1
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chris77 said:
I will give coarse verm only casing a try. :popcorn:
whats the procedure when the bag has been opened quite a while ago.? just sprinkle and mist? how deep?



I'll tell you what I did.....I had a big bag that had been open long time.  I hydrated to field capacity and placed in vacuum bag and sealed.  Kept it thin for good heat transfer.  Threw into 175 degree water bath for 4 hours.  Let it cool.  Poured straight out of vacuum bags to case my tubs.  I just do a light layer 1/8-1/4 deep.  Can still see mycelium in places.  Idea is to create a bunch of microenvironments that are ideal to trigger pins (so I've heard).

I tried sterilized peat/verm/lime mixture before.  Those have sat there for almost 2 months and still no pins...Recased 1 time after they colonized the casing.  Still no contam though.

I just did the pasteurized vermiculite onto these fully colonized tubs.  Fingers crossed.  My genetics are from an online vendor.  I keep watching the marketplace to get a print with known good genetics.  Will see what happens though.  I can be patient.


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Edited by Hardhead (05/02/25 02:14 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 2
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I don't want to be a bitch about it, but I cannot fathom how pasteurising vermiculite would help anything with anything. Maybe save yourself the hassle next time?

Maybe someone else here has any input to contradict my point, but vermiculite is expanded at 800C/1472F.
Anything there should be dead, unless you have had it in dark and dirty places.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MycCycle] * 1
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Well I can see both points...

Especially with the longevity of semps...

If one can afford the extra work, & tub last over 6 months, It's probably worth it...
even if there's a possibility it would have regardless, but that probability of it NOT, out weighs the previous.

Though it doesn't need to be vacuum sealed to pasteurize

Edited by LewDoja (05/03/25 02:52 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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I had some bad stored verm that I didnt pasturize and it fucked up my semps bad. Do it.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: HoodedBingling]
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HoodedBingling said:
I had some bad stored verm that I didnt pasturize and it fucked up my semps bad. Do it.


yeah why not !
tx everybody


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Edited by chris77 (05/03/25 03:51 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MycCycle]
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MycCycle said:
I don't want to be a bitch about it, but I cannot fathom how pasteurising vermiculite would help anything with anything. Maybe save yourself the hassle next time?

Maybe someone else here has any input to contradict my point, but vermiculite is expanded at 800C/1472F.
Anything there should be dead, unless you have had it in dark and dirty places.



Its been like that in the Pan thread as well, lol... I barely post anymore. Too many inexperienced users posting misinformation..they're 'just trying to help' Sure thing but then it just makes people like me hesitate and simply not waste my time. Not trying to be rude but damn. I miss the days when Blue would post a marvel thread and i would be holding my breath waiting for him to keep posting more and more replies and absorb all that precious knowledge like a human sea sponge. I miss him so much. :sad:

:icecreamsadness::heart::heart:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] * 1
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chris77 said:
I will give coarse verm only casing a try. :popcorn:
whats the procedure when the bag has been opened quite a while ago.? just sprinkle and mist? how deep?





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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: astra] * 11
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First Semp pin. :awesome:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Lilgrower] * 2
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Congrats my man:flexin:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 6
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Puduwoke said:
Congrats my mansister :flexin:


Was gonna say Woman, but sounded too possessive

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 4
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LewDoja said:
Puduwoke said:
Congrats my mansister :flexin:


Was gonna say Woman, but sounded too possessive



:canthelpbutlaugh:

Love you Lew :heart::heart:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 10
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I was waiting for full surface colonization before casing, and the buggers started pinning!  I decided to not case and they look good.
Millet spawn: bucket tek coir at 2:1.


Edited by Imatryin (05/03/25 05:09 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Imatryin] * 2
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:wobble:
Did you let jar consolidate?

Edited by LewDoja (05/03/25 05:13 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Imatryin] * 1
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... and did you use cube field cap coir, or did you squeeze the f out of it first?
Any top layer?
How was your process?
So curious :smile:

:allrightythen:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MycCycle] * 6
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MycCycle said:
I don't want to be a bitch about it, but I cannot fathom how pasteurising vermiculite would help anything with anything. Maybe save yourself the hassle next time?

Maybe someone else here has any input to contradict my point, but vermiculite is expanded at 800C/1472F.
Anything there should be dead, unless you have had it in dark and dirty places.


I finally found some coarse verm and mixed it with a little sand straight from the bag for some nat casing. But I can see were heating it could be beneficial.

Yes it was heated to be created, but then it was placed in an non air and water tight plastic bag, shipped half way around the world, sat on pallets in rat infested warehouses, shipped in rail cars, tossed in a shipping truck with every other type of growing supplies before it made it to the hydroponics shop where I bought it and threw it on top of the crap in the back of my truck to get it home.

I got 2 cubic feet and it should last me for at least a year in an open bag in my garage. So I don't see the harm in making sure that any mold spores that may have found their way into the bag get a bit of extra heat before I drop them directly on my precious trays. I didn't this time, so we will see how it goes. It will probably be fine, but I don't see the harm in taking a little extra precaution.

If I did heat it, I would probably use sterilization temperatures rather than pasteurization. No sense in trying to protect beneficial microbes in an inert material so you might as well kill off any bacteria as well as the potential molds.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 7
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Looking good at day four. This is the most colonized with the rest well on their way.

I’m looking forward to watching these fruit. praying for full canopies.

😬🙏🏽


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
If I did heat it, I would probably use sterilization temperatures rather than pasteurization. No sense in trying to protect beneficial microbes in an inert material so you might as well kill off any bacteria as well as the potential molds.


:whathesaid:

ps,
Glad to know i'm not the only one adding sand to the semps. Aragonite works wonders.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MycCycle] * 4
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MycCycle said:
... and did you use cube field cap coir, or did you squeeze the f out of it first?
Any top layer?
How was your process?
So curious :smile:

:allrightythen:


LewDoja: it was consolidated to the point that it could have been consumed as mycelated grain. Three months from inoculation to spawn.

MycCycle:  it was on the dry side.  No top layer. I dumped the grain in the pan, filled it with coir, put the plastic lid on and shook it like Shakira. Then I melted about 20 ice pick holes in the lid and kept it on in a JCM until it colonized.
The growth in the photo is 4 weeks after going to bulk.

Edited by Imatryin (05/03/25 10:54 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Imatryin] * 10
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8 days since S2B. P. semp "fast" clone culture. 1:4 on 100% coir, coir is slightly below field capacity.

Top compressed vs. bottom uncompressed, very similar growth rates so far:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Imatryin] * 1
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Imatryin said:
MycCycle said:
... and did you use cube field cap coir, or did you squeeze the f out of it first?
Any top layer?
How was your process?
So curious :smile:

:allrightythen:


LewDoja: it was consolidated to the point that it could have been consumed as mycelated grain. Three months from inoculation to spawn.

MycCycle:  it was on the dry side.  No top layer. I dumped the grain in the pan, filled it with coir, put the plastic lid on and shook it like Shakira. Then I melted about 20 ice pick holes in the lid and kept it on in a JCM until it colonized.
The growth in the photo is 4 weeks after going to bulk.



Yep, sounds legit :heart:

:raisemyglass:

ps,
MG tea is the tits


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